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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:08 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Afro I reside in the TRNC and you are 100% right due to the attitude of both sides after the borders were opened revealed that partition is our only real option as neither side really wants BBF.

Partition is not an option, annexation is not an option, independence is not an option, and eventually you too will come to realize that REPATRIATION is your ONLY option.


Neither of us will live long enough to see who was right.
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Postby B25 » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:09 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Afro I reside in the TRNC and you are 100% right due to the attitude of both sides after the borders were opened revealed that partition is our only real option as neither side really wants BBF.


Well Afro, I rest my case. This is exactly what your posts do, puts ideas that we want a partition and be sure, your post will be used in future as ammunition by the tuks to try and secure this.

Why do you think we want to willingly want to give oour country. An given you don't live here, I think its wrong of you to even state such.

We will only agree to a solutions IF it suits us, not turkey. As I said before, if we sign it away we have lost it forever, at least this way there is always a hope that we may be able to liberate cyprus from the turks.

Wishful thinking? Perhaps, but I for one would rather live in hope than definately give up part of this country. Any self respecting GC should also be thinking that.

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Postby Get Real! » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:10 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Afro I reside in the TRNC and you are 100% right due to the attitude of both sides after the borders were opened revealed that partition is our only real option as neither side really wants BBF.

Partition is not an option, annexation is not an option, independence is not an option, and eventually you too will come to realize that REPATRIATION is your ONLY option.


Neither of us will live long enough to see who was right.

Oh yes we will... and I've already bought a white hanky to wave when you're aboard... :cry:
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Postby Afroasiatis » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:10 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Afro I reside in the TRNC and you are 100% right due to the attitude of both sides after the borders were opened revealed that partition is our only real option as neither side really wants BBF.


Well, I still think that re-unification in the form of a BBF is in principle a far better option than any form of partition, for both GCs and TCs. But if the people in both sides don't think it's so, and aren't prepared to fight and make some sacrifices for a re-unification, then what can we do?

I haven't lost all hope yet, but it gets less and less as time goes by.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:13 pm

B25 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Afro I reside in the TRNC and you are 100% right due to the attitude of both sides after the borders were opened revealed that partition is our only real option as neither side really wants BBF.


Well Afro, I rest my case. This is exactly what your posts do, puts ideas that we want a partition and be sure, your post will be used in future as ammunition by the tuks to try and secure this.

Why do you think we want to willingly want to give oour country. An given you don't live here, I think its wrong of you to even state such.

We will only agree to a solutions IF it suits us, not turkey. As I said before, if we sign it away we have lost it forever, at least this way there is always a hope that we may be able to liberate cyprus from the turks.

Wishful thinking? Perhaps, but I for one would rather live in hope than definately give up part of this country. Any self respecting GC should also be thinking that.

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15% of the North (including the peninsula) returned for agreed partition?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:16 pm

Afroasiatis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Afro I reside in the TRNC and you are 100% right due to the attitude of both sides after the borders were opened revealed that partition is our only real option as neither side really wants BBF.


Well, I still think that re-unification in the form of a BBF is in principle a far better option than any form of partition, for both GCs and TCs. But if the people in both sides don't think it's so, and aren't prepared to fight and make some sacrifices for a re-unification, then what can we do?

I haven't lost all hope yet, but it gets less and less as time goes by.


Its not just the last 2 years of evidence surely people are not that stupid that they cannot see that neither side wants to unite unless they get their own way. Partition is the only real option as neither side would be committed to making it work and we would quickly return to square one as the mentality of the 2 sides is as it was in the 1960s.
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Postby B25 » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:16 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
B25 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Afro I reside in the TRNC and you are 100% right due to the attitude of both sides after the borders were opened revealed that partition is our only real option as neither side really wants BBF.


Well Afro, I rest my case. This is exactly what your posts do, puts ideas that we want a partition and be sure, your post will be used in future as ammunition by the tuks to try and secure this.

Why do you think we want to willingly want to give oour country. An given you don't live here, I think its wrong of you to even state such.

We will only agree to a solutions IF it suits us, not turkey. As I said before, if we sign it away we have lost it forever, at least this way there is always a hope that we may be able to liberate cyprus from the turks.

Wishful thinking? Perhaps, but I for one would rather live in hope than definately give up part of this country. Any self respecting GC should also be thinking that.

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15% of the North (including the peninsula) returned for agreed partition?


Flippin heck, thats a climb down for you, not that long ago, you didn't want to give up and inch. I think you proposal is insencere and not for you to make, Why doesn't you lead make the proposition officially???

Kiks plan was giving you that much for a BBF and you called him all the names under the sun, whats up now???
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:19 pm

B25 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
B25 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Afro I reside in the TRNC and you are 100% right due to the attitude of both sides after the borders were opened revealed that partition is our only real option as neither side really wants BBF.


Well Afro, I rest my case. This is exactly what your posts do, puts ideas that we want a partition and be sure, your post will be used in future as ammunition by the tuks to try and secure this.

Why do you think we want to willingly want to give oour country. An given you don't live here, I think its wrong of you to even state such.

We will only agree to a solutions IF it suits us, not turkey. As I said before, if we sign it away we have lost it forever, at least this way there is always a hope that we may be able to liberate cyprus from the turks.

Wishful thinking? Perhaps, but I for one would rather live in hope than definately give up part of this country. Any self respecting GC should also be thinking that.

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15% of the North (including the peninsula) returned for agreed partition?


Flippin heck, thats a climb down for you, not that long ago, you didn't want to give up and inch. I think you proposal is insencere and not for you to make, Why doesn't you lead make the proposition officially???

Kiks plan was giving you that much for a BBF and you called him all the names under the sun, whats up now???


So with the right % even you can consider partition, proves my point 100%.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:20 pm

Btw, VP did I mention that the CNG has suddenly grown in number with the recent obligatory addition of Armenians and Maronites?

So we’ve gone from 13,000 regulars + 83,500 reservists to…14,500 regulars + (potentially) 90,000 odd reservists!

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Postby Afroasiatis » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:22 pm

B25 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Afro I reside in the TRNC and you are 100% right due to the attitude of both sides after the borders were opened revealed that partition is our only real option as neither side really wants BBF.


Well Afro, I rest my case. This is exactly what your posts do, puts ideas that we want a partition and be sure, your post will be used in future as ammunition by the tuks to try and secure this.

Why do you think we want to willingly want to give oour country. An given you don't live here, I think its wrong of you to even state such.

We will only agree to a solutions IF it suits us, not turkey. As I said before, if we sign it away we have lost it forever, at least this way there is always a hope that we may be able to liberate cyprus from the turks.

Wishful thinking? Perhaps, but I for one would rather live in hope than definately give up part of this country. Any self respecting GC should also be thinking that.

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My posts may be used in the one or the other way by the one or the other, but I think what matters now is to do what is best for both GCs and TCs. And this can't be done if we don't realize as a society that partition is a very real threat. That if there is no agreed solution at some time soon, it will most probably become irreversible. Only after we realize this we can make a choice between the alternatives we have. The time is not in our side (I don't mean GCs, but re-unificationists in general).

As to "why we would be willing to give our country", I think it's what we do right now by doing nothing.
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