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Postby apc2010 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:36 am

The decision by the new government in Holland to amend the smoking ban introduced two years ago is very welcome, not least because it highlights the intransigence of politicians in the UK. It also gives us somewhere to go for long weekends, but that's another matter.


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Postby Gasman » Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:46 am

One of the comments made me laugh:

...a growing band of citizens at least now realises that we ARE at war.

It won't be over by Christmas, though (even with American help)....


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Postby bill cobbett » Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:10 pm

Interesting little article that.


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Postby bsharpish » Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:48 pm

Oh there is worse than the UK

Was in Utah last week and ( maybe it was just the county) there was no smoking in any building or within 25ft of the door !!
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:29 pm

bsharpish wrote:Oh there is worse than the UK

Was in Utah last week and ( maybe it was just the county) there was no smoking in any building or within 25ft of the door !!


Right that does it! ..... am writing to my GB MP.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:32 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
bsharpish wrote:Oh there is worse than the UK

Was in Utah last week and ( maybe it was just the county) there was no smoking in any building or within 25ft of the door !!


Right that does it! ..... am writing to my GB MP.

Right! Then we are unanimous! Turkey out of Cyprus, smoking returns, and Y-Fronts is a poof!

Methinks it’s time for a political party… 8)
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Postby Gasman » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:37 pm

Smoking hasn't left Cyprus round here where I live. Most just ignore it.

Smoking ban was more draconian in California nearly 20 years ago than it is here now! I remember not being allowed to smoke on the beach there.
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:14 pm

Get Real! wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
bsharpish wrote:Oh there is worse than the UK

Was in Utah last week and ( maybe it was just the county) there was no smoking in any building or within 25ft of the door !!


Right that does it! ..... am writing to my GB MP.

Right! Then we are unanimous! Turkey out of Cyprus, smoking returns, and Y-Fronts is a poof!

Methinks it’s time for a political party… 8)


Sign me up mate.

Here's the email just sent to my MP here in London (for CF amusement if nothing else)...

Dear MP X

Belated congrats on your re-election.

Re Smoking In Public

I have seen an article which surveys the situation on smoking indoors in various EU nations.

As you will know we have a blanket ban here in GB with zero tolerance, no exceptions, bequeathed by the Nanny-State Conformist Behaviour Controllers of the previous government.

Other states such as Belgium, Austria, Germany, Holland, Portugal etc have taken a more enlightened and rightly liberal approach and in these places there are allowances, with areas set aside for smoking.

You will further be aware of the huge decline in trade in our pubs in recent years with many closing. Here in our own High Street pubs that were once the meeting places of our community, social places that contributed so much to social cohesion, places where there was often standing room only, are empty.

There was a time when Wise Assemblies of Englishmen (and women) were able to meet in English Pubs, and discuss in Plain English Pub Talk the pressing matters of the day over a pipe or cigarette and a Warm Pint.

May I take the liberty of asking whether you would agree that this sort of Englishman should be able to enjoy a Fag and A Pint with his peers in a set-aside area?

Yours sincerely

Bill Cobbett
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Postby CBBB » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:19 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
bsharpish wrote:Oh there is worse than the UK

Was in Utah last week and ( maybe it was just the county) there was no smoking in any building or within 25ft of the door !!


Right that does it! ..... am writing to my GB MP.

Right! Then we are unanimous! Turkey out of Cyprus, smoking returns, and Y-Fronts is a poof!

Methinks it’s time for a political party… 8)


Sign me up mate.

Here's the email just sent to my MP here in London (for CF amusement if nothing else)...

Dear MP X

Belated congrats on your re-election.

Re Smoking In Public

I have seen an article which surveys the situation on smoking indoors in various EU nations.

As you will know we have a blanket ban here in GB with zero tolerance, no exceptions, bequeathed by the Nanny-State Conformist Behaviour Controllers of the previous government.

Other states such as Belgium, Austria, Germany, Holland, Portugal etc have taken a more enlightened and rightly liberal approach and in these places there are allowances, with areas set aside for smoking.

You will further be aware of the huge decline in trade in our pubs in recent years with many closing. Here in our own High Street pubs that were once the meeting places of our community, social places that contributed so much to social cohesion, places where there was often standing room only, are empty.

There was a time when Wise Assemblies of Englishmen (and women) were able to meet in English Pubs, and discuss in Plain English Pub Talk the pressing matters of the day over a pipe or cigarette and a Warm Pint.

May I take the liberty of asking whether you would agree that this sort of Englishman should be able to enjoy a Fag and A Pint with his peers in a set-aside area?

Yours sincerely

Bill Cobbett


Where is the link to your petition??

I want to sign up!!

I will also nick your content, play with it a bit and then send it to my Cyprus MP(s)!
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Postby Kikapu » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:27 pm

bsharpish wrote:Oh there is worse than the UK

Was in Utah last week and ( maybe it was just the county) there was no smoking in any building or within 25ft of the door !!


The mormon state of Utah is also a dry state for the most part, as well as caffeine free state for the Mormons, so it's natural for them not to smoke also.!
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