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[Viewpoint]

i dont understand what is a double standard?

You want to impose different condition for Famagusta than the ports in the south.

So what's the difference between that and what's happening at the moment?

The ports in the south are under Gc control with no interference/supervision from the EU/UN but they want us to be supervised, why? Clearly double standards.

Only that port will be supervised and BOTH sides use of that port will be under EU/UN supervision. All your other illegally held ports will not be supervised.

You obviously lack the vision that your fellow TCs do.

Where is the offer for non supervision of all other ports including Ercan? Why do we need supervision of a port we already operate?

One step at a time VP.

I think you have the wrong end of the stick our other ports will not be open to international traffic, just Famagusta, Ercan imo is more important.

[Hermes]

Unfortunately, what our T/C friends seem unaware of is that Turkey isn't interested in opening the port of Famagusta in exchange for trade and putting its EU accession path back on track. What Turkey wants is recognition for the north. This proposal doesn't give them recognition hence the rejection of the plan. I wish them luck but since when have the opinions and interests of T/Cs mattered to Turkey?

Have you ever heard of such a thing as common goals? I know you never had any with us TCs so you probably dont.

I have no idea what you are talking about. Your habit of one or two sentence replies, as if you are a zombie or on medication, makes no sense to me. Are you unable to write more than a couple of sentences at a time?

[boulio]

I think you have the wrong end of the stick our other ports will not be open to international traffic, just Famagusta, Ercan imo is more important

even if ercan would be opened it would be still under joint administration since the "trnc"is not recognized.

would you go for that with a turksih reduction of forces to the G/C national guard levels?

[Me Ed]

i dont understand what is a double standard?

You want to impose different condition for Famagusta than the ports in the south.

So what's the difference between that and what's happening at the moment?

The ports in the south are under Gc control with no interference/supervision from the EU/UN but they want us to be supervised, why? Clearly double standards.

Only that port will be supervised and BOTH sides use of that port will be under EU/UN supervision. All your other illegally held ports will not be supervised.

You obviously lack the vision that your fellow TCs do.

Where is the offer for non supervision of all other ports including Ercan? Why do we need supervision of a port we already operate?

One step at a time VP.

I think you have the wrong end of the stick our other ports will not be open to international traffic, just Famagusta, Ercan imo is more important.

I know where you coming from, you want it all and you want it now.

Some TCs with more vision than you obviously see this a first step in the right direction.

[Viewpoint]

Thats the trap theyll give only what they want then stop.

[kurupetos]

I hope the TCs will refuse. We don't need any isolation removals at this point.

[Hermes]

I hope the TCs will refuse. We don't need any isolation removals at this point.

Are you suggesting that the authorities in the north and fools like VP are more interested in keeping the blockade going? I wonder why. Maybe isolation isn't so bad for them after all.

[All4114All]

Personally I do want to see Varosha opened and return to it's golory days as a T/C. I mean in contrast why would I buy a ferrari and keep it in the garage for 36 years and not allowing anyone from seeing it what good is it.
You got soldiers in their doing what in a city of 6.4 square kilometers.
However the opening of ports under EU supervision what good is this I mean we already have imports comming into the North even if its through Turkey we are not exactly in a position were we must smuggle goods into our North. We have VW, Toyota, Opel dealerships.
So just think about it a whole City for EU supervised Famagusta Port only and no guarantees for the future. No deal
Open Famagusta and Ercan for direct transit under T/C supervision give us in writting what the future holds as the south enjoys and I might consider shaking your hand for a deal.
If the city does reopen oneday a joint venture with G/C and T/C companies to rebuild it would show that we can work together for the future it will be an icon of two communities working side by side.
But let us not forget G/C could of had this city reopened by now if the Annan Plan passed.

[Oracle]

Does anyone know what happened to those missing Dutch tourists who were arrested by Turkish military Police a few years ago?

[kurupetos]

I hope the TCs will refuse. We don't need any isolation removals at this point.

Are you suggesting that the authorities in the north and fools like VP are more interested in keeping the blockade going? I wonder why. Maybe isolation isn't so bad for them after all.

I don't know what's good or bad for them, but a settlement of CP under the Annan plan lines is definitely bad for us GCs.