Paphitis wrote:All4114All wrote:Paphitis wrote:All4114All wrote:Paphitis wrote:observer wrote:Paphitis wroteCyprus needs to involve itself more and more within the EU, apply for membership in the PfP and NATO. A very close strategic alliance should be developed with neighbor Israel, and this alliance must rival that with Greece.
Only then, can the RoC be a mouthpiece for Palestinians, Iran and Syria, and at the same time not be mistrusted by the world's powers, who will bury us given an opportunity if they can't trust us in such a very important and volatile Strategic position.
I'd have thought that developing a very close alliance with Israel and being the mouthpiece for Palestinians, Iran and Syria would make you distrusted by just about everyone.
Only in your very simplistic mind!
How Ironic it must be for you, in your one dimensional mind, that it is in fact Israel's biggest supporter who is also Israel's biggest critic in terms of building more and more settlements in the West Bank whilst it pushes for a 2 State solution. How ironic it must be that Israel's biggest enemy who wants to obliterate Israel's very existence holds absolutely no sway and absolutely no influence on most countries and only serves to complicate and make things far worse for the Palestinians and their very people!
At the end of the day, it is the US who is the better mouthpiece for the Palestinians. If the RoC has very close ties with Israel, then it is better placed to give its constructive criticism, and the Israeli's would be very receptive.
It is a far too complex world, and I don't blame you for your very simplistic outlook!
There are already too many foreign powers with mouthpieces on the Cyprus issue I don't think it will be wise to bring another foreign power to the table especially Israel and it's stand in the world at the moment to complicate things even more.
Let's look at it from another angle if the RoC did have close ties with Israel as you suggest for strategic reason given the relationship between Turkey and Israel over the last few months not sure what the road ahead will come too.
Could be a dangerous proposal for all.
I didn't say anything about bringing Israel to the table. They are a neighbour within this bad neighborhood and it will serve our interests if we developed EXTREMELY close political, cultural, economic and military ties. And together we can exploit and deliver Oil and Natural Gas to Europe.
They can become an ally, as opposed to Turkey, which at present is n occupying power and the number one enemy of the Cypriot state!!!
A bad neighborhood only in the minds of the Israel politicians. Israel is just as bad as any of it's neighbours you wish to condem.
I hope when you say OUR you dont mean Israel alone. Political ties you must be joking why doesn't Israel take a look at it's own political game before we speak about ties. If you talk about economics in regards to import and export sure but not as far as Politics and Military ties.
The last statement is quite funny dont put Turkey and Israel on the same boat. While Turkey hasn't fired a shot since 1974 (Except for the unfortunate protest events in the 90's) they have not move a step forward to gain land on the other hand Israel continues to declare war every year and continues to pile on the death count. It still occupies land south of Lebanon for no reason. It blocks human aid to the people of Gaza and has signed agreements with Eygpt for it's own purpose. It continues to build high walls along it's borders of Gaza and Palestine. Come to think of it they are worse than Turkey to be in the same boat. Israel has had more UN Resolutions than I can think of from the 90's till now. So don't condem a nation when Israel is even worse declearing war on whoever they want whenever they want.
It is literally none of your concern on who we choose to have alliances with.
Clearly, Turkey is not an option, for obvious reasons, but Israel and Cyprus have mutual interests and this will also allow Cyprus some influence in improving Israel's behavior which I believe is very possible, as Israeli's do not regress, but are merely hell bent on their survival. This is something else we have in common!
You don't have a say, just like I don't have a say in Turkey's new strategic partnerships with Israel and Brazil!
Just keep your nose out of it, unless you wish to behave like a proper Cypriot that has the interests of the RoC above all else under all circumstances and not Turkey's interests. If you do this, then we can talk. If not, then just butt out of my nation's affairs!!!
In an open public forum you are telling me it is none of my concern while you debate Israel to have ties wıth Cyprus while I live here.
I thought someone opened laughing gas when I was reading as I highlighted in bold. Cyprus to change behavior of Israel because they haven´t listen to anyone else they will listen to Cyprus to influence Israel behavior. That´s a first.
Let´s not get to carried away here, but as you say common I don´t think to invite a nation who has ´common´problems wouldn´t be a correct step forward. Why do you ask? Well if the RoC who is only represented by G/C parliment to agree to have ties with Israel means that they are showing that the actions of Israel building on settlers lands is being acknowledged by the G/C government which means all this time and effort to come to a solution in cyprus about settlers here and the G/C property was just a big waste of time and trust me it wouldn´t look for G/C government. So you can´t have a golden handshake with a nation which builds on settlers land and then say I want my land back here. Get It? Contradicting.
My interest is the RoC but you just can´t hear me yet which is what we are trying to also negotiate here. However you can´t also represent the whole of RoC people to have ties with Israel. That´s why we have a forum and debate about it
