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Postby Oracle » Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:02 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Do you know the difference between private land ownership and soverignty rights.


probably not a good idea to establish sovereignty on someone else's land without their permission. interesting idea, though. let me know how you get on.


Obviously you do not know the difference loss of sovereignty does not mean loss of private land.


However, what you have achieved is to steal GC private land -- obviously the easier option of the two.

RoC sovereignty remains untouched! We shall never lose RoC sovereignty (now further protected forever by the EU) -- and moreover, we are in the process of regaining the private land for the rightful owners.

So, what have you got, that's permanent and tangible, to hand down to your children?
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Postby observer » Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:58 am

In 2004, and at other times, you had an offer that, realistically, would have made it possible for everyone who wanted to go back to do so. For the majority who, after 30+ years, would not have wanted to move, there would have been compensation.

In your hate-warped little world, however, it’s not a settlement that you want but revenge. So I’m afraid that what you will have to hand down to your children is a legacy of warped history, hatred and little more.

Let's hope that your children are wiser.
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Postby miltiades » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:15 am

observer wrote:In 2004, and at other times, you had an offer that, realistically, would have made it possible for everyone who wanted to go back to do so. For the majority who, after 30+ years, would not have wanted to move, there would have been compensation.

In your hate-warped little world, however, it’s not a settlement that you want but revenge. So I’m afraid that what you will have to hand down to your children is a legacy of warped history, hatred and little more.

Let's hope that your children are wiser.

I'm known on this forum for my moderate views. I rejected the AP on the grounds that it was not what it was drummed up to be , ie a unification plan , but rather a plan that satisfied Turkey giving her " sovereignty" over the entire island , a plan that would have legitimized the Turkish invasion , a plan that would take away my birthright as a Cypriot and demote me to either a Greek or a Turk , a plan that stoked up a myriad of mines ready to be deplored by the future generation, a plan that saw the creation of 50% Turkish Police stations and 50% Greek Police stations , I object to both I demand Cypriot police stations where only the flag of my nation is hoisted above them.
This plan would have lasted no time at all and good old Turkey would have had to "intervene " !!! To hell with this partitionist plan !
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Postby observer » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:10 am

miltiades wrote:
observer wrote:In 2004, and at other times, you had an offer that, realistically, would have made it possible for everyone who wanted to go back to do so. For the majority who, after 30+ years, would not have wanted to move, there would have been compensation.

In your hate-warped little world, however, it’s not a settlement that you want but revenge. So I’m afraid that what you will have to hand down to your children is a legacy of warped history, hatred and little more.

Let's hope that your children are wiser.

I'm known on this forum for my moderate views. I rejected the AP on the grounds that it was not what it was drummed up to be , ie a unification plan , but rather a plan that satisfied Turkey giving her " sovereignty" over the entire island , a plan that would have legitimized the Turkish invasion , a plan that would take away my birthright as a Cypriot and demote me to either a Greek or a Turk , a plan that stoked up a myriad of mines ready to be deplored by the future generation, a plan that saw the creation of 50% Turkish Police stations and 50% Greek Police stations , I object to both I demand Cypriot police stations where only the flag of my nation is hoisted above them.
This plan would have lasted no time at all and good old Turkey would have had to "intervene " !!! To hell with this partitionist plan !


It would be nice to live in a perfect world, but sadly we don't. What was offered was a practical solution. Now, even that seems impractical. Time has made the division wider and will continue to do so. And there was going to be a common flag!
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Postby MrH » Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:08 am

What! The truth hurts does it? Not in line with Greek Cypriot view? The end isnearing, and it's pretty obvious. Turkey is needed as part of the EU, the UN fed up, and peace has certainly been the possitive factor in all this as not one Turkish Cypriot has been slaughtered by a Fanatical GC EOKA nationalist. The North is free.

Oh, almost forgot, if there's unification OH WHO will the U.S sell its Arms to if not Turkey and Greece. A border in Cyprus is a must, so is two military opposing forces (Greece and Turkey Dumbo) and a HEALTHY SALE OF ARMS to those countries by Nato-U.S.

Man, DO I NEED TO SPELL OUT THE OBVIOUS ALL THE TIME?

Partition is the End, and the UN will make certain of it......period.

There's no smoke without FIRE!
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:18 am

MrH wrote:Man, DO I NEED TO SPELL OUT THE OBVIOUS ALL THE TIME?

Partition is the End, and the UN will make certain of it......period.

You're all set then aren't you? 8)
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Postby ZoC » Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:03 pm

MrH wrote:What! The truth hurts does it? Not in line with Greek Cypriot view? The end isnearing, and it's pretty obvious. Turkey is needed as part of the EU, the UN fed up, and peace has certainly been the possitive factor in all this as not one Turkish Cypriot has been slaughtered by a Fanatical GC EOKA nationalist. The North is free.

Oh, almost forgot, if there's unification OH WHO will the U.S sell its Arms to if not Turkey and Greece. A border in Cyprus is a must, so is two military opposing forces (Greece and Turkey Dumbo) and a HEALTHY SALE OF ARMS to those countries by Nato-U.S.

Man, DO I NEED TO SPELL OUT THE OBVIOUS ALL THE TIME?

Partition is the End, and the UN will make certain of it......period.

There's no smoke without FIRE!


sounds like you've had a few puffs this morning...

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Postby Jerry » Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:19 pm

MrH wrote:What! The truth hurts does it? Not in line with Greek Cypriot view? The end isnearing, and it's pretty obvious. Turkey is needed as part of the EU, the UN fed up, and peace has certainly been the possitive factor in all this as not one Turkish Cypriot has been slaughtered by a Fanatical GC EOKA nationalist. The North is free.

Oh, almost forgot, if there's unification OH WHO will the U.S sell its Arms to if not Turkey and Greece. A border in Cyprus is a must, so is two military opposing forces (Greece and Turkey Dumbo) and a HEALTHY SALE OF ARMS to those countries by Nato-U.S.

Man, DO I NEED TO SPELL OUT THE OBVIOUS ALL THE TIME?

Partition is the End, and the UN will make certain of it......period.

There's no smoke without FIRE!


Nobody can force the ROC to accept legal partition - not even the UN. In view of recent events in Larnaca and the real possibility that, in a united Cyprus, a handful of fascists could re-ignite the flames inter communal warfare perhaps some form of partition would be acceptable. In time, under the EU, the two states could become re-integrated. Greek Cypriots will never allow Turkey to benefit from what it has achieved by force. I can't see any form of partition ever being accepted unless Turkey returns half the occupied territory.
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Postby Oracle » Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:30 pm

Jerry wrote:
MrH wrote:What! The truth hurts does it? Not in line with Greek Cypriot view? The end isnearing, and it's pretty obvious. Turkey is needed as part of the EU, the UN fed up, and peace has certainly been the possitive factor in all this as not one Turkish Cypriot has been slaughtered by a Fanatical GC EOKA nationalist. The North is free.

Oh, almost forgot, if there's unification OH WHO will the U.S sell its Arms to if not Turkey and Greece. A border in Cyprus is a must, so is two military opposing forces (Greece and Turkey Dumbo) and a HEALTHY SALE OF ARMS to those countries by Nato-U.S.

Man, DO I NEED TO SPELL OUT THE OBVIOUS ALL THE TIME?

Partition is the End, and the UN will make certain of it......period.

There's no smoke without FIRE!


Nobody can force the ROC to accept legal partition - not even the UN. In view of recent events in Larnaca and the real possibility that, in a united Cyprus, a handful of fascists could re-ignite the flames inter communal warfare perhaps some form of partition would be acceptable. In time, under the EU, the two states could become re-integrated. Greek Cypriots will never allow Turkey to benefit from what it has achieved by force. I can't see any form of partition ever being accepted unless Turkey returns half the occupied territory.


Stop feeding them hope of any loophole-ways to get some form of partition. There is no reason, nor will there ever be any reason why any part of the RoC should be gifted to the Turks! They can stop with all the "genocide" excuses and learn to live with normal human beings like the rest of the world.
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Postby Jerry » Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:38 pm

Oracle wrote:
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MrH wrote:What! The truth hurts does it? Not in line with Greek Cypriot view? The end isnearing, and it's pretty obvious. Turkey is needed as part of the EU, the UN fed up, and peace has certainly been the possitive factor in all this as not one Turkish Cypriot has been slaughtered by a Fanatical GC EOKA nationalist. The North is free.

Oh, almost forgot, if there's unification OH WHO will the U.S sell its Arms to if not Turkey and Greece. A border in Cyprus is a must, so is two military opposing forces (Greece and Turkey Dumbo) and a HEALTHY SALE OF ARMS to those countries by Nato-U.S.

Man, DO I NEED TO SPELL OUT THE OBVIOUS ALL THE TIME?

Partition is the End, and the UN will make certain of it......period.

There's no smoke without FIRE!


Nobody can force the ROC to accept legal partition - not even the UN. In view of recent events in Larnaca and the real possibility that, in a united Cyprus, a handful of fascists could re-ignite the flames inter communal warfare perhaps some form of partition would be acceptable. In time, under the EU, the two states could become re-integrated. Greek Cypriots will never allow Turkey to benefit from what it has achieved by force. I can't see any form of partition ever being accepted unless Turkey returns half the occupied territory.


Stop feeding them hope of any loophole-ways to get some form of partition. There is no reason, nor will there ever be any reason why any part of the RoC should be gifted to the Turks! They can stop with all the "genocide" excuses and learn to live with normal human beings like the rest of the world.


They don't need "genocide" excuses. Loundmouth racists like you and the Larnaca fascists give them all the ammunition they need.
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