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This has got to be the worst article, ever!

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Postby shahmaran » Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:39 am

paliometoxo wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:finally your leaving! bye bye have a safe trip back to turkey... ;)


The only place we leave would be the table ;)


we dont seem to be getting far on the table with the demands the turks make...


Yeah your demands are just as silly.

So like I said, it's best to go our separate ways.
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Postby shahmaran » Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:40 am

ZoC wrote:
Gasman wrote:Zoc do you have a link to your reported story please?.


r u for real?... ok here you go...

http://www.fucktheft.com/cms/s/0/86ed1c ... z14dTG6rvJ

Gasman wrote:And what's the problem with three reporters contributing? Two of them presumably are their 'man on the spot' in Athens and Turkey.


i've no idea... i'd refer you to my source but he asked me not to reveal his identity - probably realised he was talking out of his hat.


:lol: :lol:

Ahh the painful truth...
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Postby ZoC » Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:48 am

shahmaran wrote:
ZoC wrote:
Gasman wrote:Zoc do you have a link to your reported story please?.


r u for real?... ok here you go...

http://www.fucktheft.com/cms/s/0/86ed1c ... z14dTG6rvJ

Gasman wrote:And what's the problem with three reporters contributing? Two of them presumably are their 'man on the spot' in Athens and Turkey.


i've no idea... i'd refer you to my source but he asked me not to reveal his identity - probably realised he was talking out of his hat.


:lol: :lol:

Ahh the painful truth...


wot? didn't the link work?
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Postby shahmaran » Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:12 am

ZoC wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
ZoC wrote:
Gasman wrote:Zoc do you have a link to your reported story please?.


r u for real?... ok here you go...

http://www.fucktheft.com/cms/s/0/86ed1c ... z14dTG6rvJ

Gasman wrote:And what's the problem with three reporters contributing? Two of them presumably are their 'man on the spot' in Athens and Turkey.


i've no idea... i'd refer you to my source but he asked me not to reveal his identity - probably realised he was talking out of his hat.


:lol: :lol:

Ahh the painful truth...


wot? didn't the link work?


Yeah must be the Turkish ban...
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Postby Hermes » Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:07 am

shahmaran wrote:
So like I said, it's best to go our separate ways.


The problem with your scenario is that the ROC is still the sovereign international government of the whole of the island. The UN and the EU recognise only one government of the island. And we legally own around 80 per cent of the north. So can you tell me what we get from agreeing to a separation?

Try and think outside your usual box on this. Because unless you can come up with a really sound incentive for us to forego all our legal, moral and human claims to the north, I'm really struggling to see how this scenario might work.
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Postby shahmaran » Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:14 am

Hermes wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
So like I said, it's best to go our separate ways.


The problem with your scenario is that the ROC is still the sovereign international government of the whole of the island. The UN and the EU recognise only one government of the island. And we legally own around 80 per cent of the north. So can you tell me what we get from agreeing to a separation?

Try and think outside your usual box on this. Because unless you can come up with a really sound incentive for us to forego all our legal, moral and human claims to the north, I'm really struggling to see how this scenario might work.


We shall just have to wait and see then.

This will not go on for ever that is for certain.
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Re: This has got to be the worst article, ever!

Postby Get Real! » Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:39 am

Cyprus might slide towards formal partition...

That's as far as anyone needs to read before clicking elsewhere. :)
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Postby bill cobbett » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:16 am

ZoC wrote:In a separate development, a senior diplomat called FT reporting "atrocious", while another source said, "not naming your sources is a transparent sign of agenda-driven journalism."

a spokesperson close to the three journalists said, "how come it takes three journalists, in three separate countries, to cobble together this unsubstantiated nonsense?"

according to another diplomat, "this kind of journalism is what loses the ft any credibility as a newspaper except when focusing on financial matters."

a leaked meeting note of an ft editorial session, sparked furore, "if things carry on like this we have to concoct a partition story to try and scare cypriots into giving up half their island to the turks."


Absolutely Z of Scala, the whole thing is a contrivance by a journo sympathetic to Tr ......... the whole disgraceful bleeding lot is full of un-named sources, almost one for every sentence.
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Postby Hermes » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:44 am

bill cobbett wrote:Absolutely Z of Scala, the whole thing is a contrivance by a journo sympathetic to Tr ......... the whole disgraceful bleeding lot is full of un-named sources, almost one for every sentence.


Ah yes. The "we can't get anywhere with the talks so let's have partition instead" scenario. Turkey's last hope for a solution on its terms. I think that's what these unidentified "sources" are trying to tell us. It's the same old story. Dreary stuff. Why do they bother?
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Postby observer » Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:39 am

Hermes wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
So like I said, it's best to go our separate ways.


The problem with your scenario is that the ROC is still the sovereign international government of the whole of the island. The UN and the EU recognise only one government of the island. And we legally own around 80 per cent of the north. So can you tell me what we get from agreeing to a separation?

Try and think outside your usual box on this. Because unless you can come up with a really sound incentive for us to forego all our legal, moral and human claims to the north, I'm really struggling to see how this scenario might work.


It has been known for the international community to change its collective mind
Tibet/RoC (the big one)
Taiwan/RoC (the big one again)
Czechoslovakia (1936 and later)
Yugoslavia and too many to think of - including Kosova
USSR
Coming up ... Sudan? and maybe ... TRNC if there is something in it for the big powers ... which RoC (the little one) is not.
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