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Postby Oracle » Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:46 pm

Bananiot wrote:All the patriots of this forum, hand in hand with the sick racists. Not a single word of condemnation and sotos says that we should lay flowers in the path of these "people", rather than confront them. I pity those who tried to soften the issue by comparing it to similar events of 1996 when the brothers-in-hate fascists from the other side committed the crimes against Solomou and Isaak.


These events are NOT similar! They are only comparable for demonstrating the difference in scale and put things into perspective for those who practice exploitation. Only an outrageous fool can mitigate the Turkish-state involvement in the killings of the GCs at the hands of TCs!

(Cleverness, normally laudable, in your hands is a subliminal weapon. It sickens me when I, occasionally, twig as to quite how sly you can be.)
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Postby shahmaran » Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:49 pm

Sotos wrote:
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Headed by the Greek Resistance Movement, a group of protestors had been on their way to the town’s Ayios Lazaros area in a march they had arranged over a month ago to protest the government’s migrant policies.


The protestors came into conflict with members of KISA, which had decided to hold the Festival in Larnaca – instead of Limassol, as was initially planned – in a bid to hold an “anti-demonstration” to counterbalance the nationalists’ march.


KISA head Doros Polycarpou said his NGO had asked the police to divert the protestors’ march so that it didn’t pass by the Rainbow Festival.


If they didn't want the protesters to pass from their festival then why did the change the location of their festival and placed it in the path of the protesters? I think the facts show clearly who are the ones who choose confrontation.


So, you are saying that this TC singer, decided to take on the Nazi mob, so he actually requested to be located on their way?

Really?


The TC singer was not alone. He was along with a mob of his own and if you read the article it is clear that it is his mob who choose confrontation.


And what exactly would the motivation of this "TC racist attack" be?
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Postby Me Ed » Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:56 pm

Bananiot wrote:All the patriots of this forum, hand in hand with the sick racists. Not a single word of condemnation and sotos says that we should lay flowers in the path of these "people", rather than confront them. I pity those who tried to soften the issue by comparing it to similar events of 1996 when the brothers-in-hate fascists from the other side committed the crimes against Solomou and Isaak.

Bananiot,

I agree that what happened at the festival was disgraceful and should be condemed.

However, almost every GC vs TC thread on this forum decends into a kind of moral relativism.

It actually never solves anything and there are major protagonists of this moral meta-ethical revativism on both sides of the argument - but now and again we all do it.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:18 pm

shahmaran wrote:
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shahmaran wrote:
Piratis wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Blabla, 150 Nazis attacking foreigner is hardly an "excuse".

The fact that the police did nothing is just the icing on the cake...

No "TC crowd" shot anyone, a police officer did.

As opposed to "GC crowds" executing innocent civilians.


The TC Nazis (more than 150) beat to death Isaak and attacked many other people, and your "police" not only "did nothing", but they participated in the beating. It is all well documented with videos and photos.

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I don't see anyone getting shot.

Why were these people here in the first place?

Provocation maybe?


Why wasn't Solomou 'arrested' but beaten to death Shah. Surely the actions above are unacceptable. Arrest the 'wrong-doers' and then release them to show good-will. If we behave like animals we deserve to die like animals. All this violence can be avoided. But I must admit that I am surprised at the RoC inability at crowd control.

Citing what happens in the north doesn't help Piratis. The RoC should know better as the 'legal' authority in the south.


I totally agree with you Deniz.

But I do not believe that Cypriots have reached that level of civilization, yet.

How is the above any different to what the GC police was doing to the TC's for decades?

These people wanted to insult us and the police/army/angry mob clearly are not stupid.

The provocateurs are just as guilty, showing that Cyprus as a whole, is a long way from being civilized.

Also another good reason not to fall into the delusion of believing that being an EU member makes anyone "civilized" or makes them "secure", it does not!


I know about all the past violence Shah. I lived through those days and counted all the murdered TC's arriving by helicopter in 1064. But is this a competition so we vie with each other who can be more barbaric? The days of 'revenge' must past surely.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:25 pm

Piratis wrote:
Citing what happens in the north doesn't help Piratis. The RoC should know better as the 'legal' authority in the south.


The RoC is the legal authority of the whole Cyprus. I am sure the authorities will do what they can to find those who caused the troubles. Unfortunately such kind of incidents happen everywhere.


I'd like to feel assured that the authorities will do their utmost best to find the culprits responsible for this. If they do not even bother, it would be pointless accusing anyone commiting similar violence in the north.
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Postby halil » Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:02 pm

MEDIA RELEASE
RAINBOW FESTIVAL in Larnaca
On Friday, 5 November 2010, from 17:00 to 22:00, KISA in cooperation with communities of migrants, refugees and foreign students, as well as Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot bicommunal, antiracist and human rights organisations are organising the Rainbow Festival in Larnaca, at the Finikoudes seafront (Seafront Stage). The Festival will be addressed by the Head of the European Commission Representation in Cyprus, Ms Androulla Kaminara, and the Head of the Authority against Discrimination and Racism of the Ombudsman’s Office, Mr Aristos Tsiartas.
As it is known, the Festival in Larnaca, and not in Limassol as initially planned, is being held after the announcement of racist events by the “Greek Resistance Movement”, with the participation of the “Pancyprian
Anti‐Occupation Movement” and the “Movement for the Salvation of Cyprus”. According to their announcements, these events are aimed against migrants, refugees and human rights organisations, such as KISA,
which is being anathematised as a “social abscess and the enemy’s fifth column, funded by foreign centres”, as well as the Cypriot state, which is being accused that “from its birth, it fights against the Hellenism of Cyprus in order to eliminate it”.
To the messages of the chauvinists and racists that project and cultivate hatred and hostility against any diversity, instigate and promote racism and discrimination and lead to regression and obscurantism, we offer the messages of the Rainbow Festival, the largest antiracist and multicultural event in our country, and we unequivocally and categorically declare that for us migrants and refugees not only do they not constitute a threat for our culture and identity but they are equal human beings, an integral part of our society and with considerable contribution to
our society. On the basis of the remarkable success of last Sunday’s Rainbow Festival in Nicosia, KISA and the cooperating
communities, organisations, groups and individual activists call for an even larger participation in the Festival in Larnaca in order to strengthen its hopeful messages and to decisively refute the dangerous ideologies of racism, chauvinism and neo‐fascism.
Spreading racism and intolerance cannot be protected by the cloak of freedom of expression. The messages and the target of the announced march of the chauvinists‐racists constitute, in our opinion, violation of provisions of the penal code as well as the constitution. We also call on the authorities to take on their responsibilities and to
ensure that on Friday the chauvinists‐racists will not threaten or insult in any way with their slogans and presence the Festival and the participants.
The Festival will include:
Cultural programme with traditional dances, music and songs from groups and organisations of migrants and refugees, which will close with live rock music from Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot bands.
Exhibitions and stands of organisations and communities Food from various countries and drinks

Sponsors of the 13th Rainbow Festival:
Ministry of Interior, Ministry of Education and Culture, Youth Board of Cyprus The Festival in Larnaca is being organised with the support of the European Commission Representation in Cyprus. The content of this press release is the sole responsibility of KISA and can under no circumstances be regarded as reflecting the position of the European Union.

http://www.kisa.org.cy/EN/news/661.html
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Postby Gasman » Sun Nov 07, 2010 5:38 pm

Most of the posts above were the reason I didn't bother to post anything about this event on my doorstep.

So so predictable. Excusing the inexcusable, defending the indefensible.
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Postby kurupetos » Sun Nov 07, 2010 6:49 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Citing what happens in the north doesn't help Piratis. The RoC should know better as the 'legal' authority in the south.


The RoC is the legal authority of the whole Cyprus. I am sure the authorities will do what they can to find those who caused the troubles. Unfortunately such kind of incidents happen everywhere.


I'd like to feel assured that the authorities will do their utmost best to find the culprits responsible for this. If they do not even bother, it would be pointless accusing anyone commiting similar violence in the north.


I doubt that's going to happen because they probably fled to the north moments after the incident. :roll:
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Postby kurupetos » Sun Nov 07, 2010 6:50 pm

Gasman wrote:Most of the posts above were the reason I didn't bother to post anything about this event on my doorstep.

So so predictable. Excusing the inexcusable, defending the indefensible.


Bollocks!
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Postby kurupetos » Sun Nov 07, 2010 6:51 pm

paliometoxo wrote:i am surprised vp has not taken the chance to say look we cant live together this is proof we need two states


He is too scared to do that now. Maybe later. :lol:
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