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Postby shahmaran » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:51 pm

Me Ed wrote:
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Me Ed wrote:Turkey will join the EU once it meets the criteria - its simples.


Don't be naive.

I've just had a look at the negotiation process, there's a clear table on Wikipedia at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_Turkey_to_the_European_Union

Sure, Turkey has a lot of work to do but it's not impossible.


There are 35 Chapters to be fulfilled. Since 2005 only 13 of them has been opened, the other 18 has been blocked by France and Cyprus for various reasons.

So no, Turkey cannot just "join" when she meets the criteria, because she is being blocked, not because the East is poor, but because there are deeper issues with other countries who oppose her membership.

Even if the East was the holiday capital of the EU, Turkey would still be struggling to join, because the real problem is political, not economical.

This is why Jeremy is an ignorant prick, by pretending that the above does not exist and boiling the problems down to simple stuff like the hole-in-the-ground toilets. :roll:

Anyone is welcome to share his title by supporting his ignorant views, its fine by me. :lol:
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Postby Me Ed » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:59 pm

shahmaran wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Me Ed wrote:Turkey will join the EU once it meets the criteria - its simples.


Don't be naive.

I've just had a look at the negotiation process, there's a clear table on Wikipedia at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_Turkey_to_the_European_Union

Sure, Turkey has a lot of work to do but it's not impossible.


There are 35 Chapters to be fulfilled. Since 2005 only 13 of them has been opened, the other 18 has been blocked by France and Cyprus for various reasons.

So no, Turkey cannot just "join" when she meets the criteria, because she is being blocked, not because the East is poor, but because there are deeper issues with other countries who oppose her membership.

Even if the East was the holiday capital of the EU, Turkey would still be struggling to join, because the real problem is political, not economical.

This is why Jeremy is an ignorant prick, by pretending that the above does not exist and boiling the problems down to simple stuff like the hole-in-the-ground toilets. :roll:

Anyone is welcome to share his title by supporting his ignorant views, its fine by me. :lol:

Therefore the onus is on Turkey to get those chapters unblocked.

Cyprus has been working hard to accommodate Turkey and has offered a compromise to get some of those chapters unblocked.

As for France, that might all change at their next elections.
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Postby shahmaran » Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:11 pm

Me Ed wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Me Ed wrote:Turkey will join the EU once it meets the criteria - its simples.


Don't be naive.

I've just had a look at the negotiation process, there's a clear table on Wikipedia at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_Turkey_to_the_European_Union

Sure, Turkey has a lot of work to do but it's not impossible.


There are 35 Chapters to be fulfilled. Since 2005 only 13 of them has been opened, the other 18 has been blocked by France and Cyprus for various reasons.

So no, Turkey cannot just "join" when she meets the criteria, because she is being blocked, not because the East is poor, but because there are deeper issues with other countries who oppose her membership.

Even if the East was the holiday capital of the EU, Turkey would still be struggling to join, because the real problem is political, not economical.

This is why Jeremy is an ignorant prick, by pretending that the above does not exist and boiling the problems down to simple stuff like the hole-in-the-ground toilets. :roll:

Anyone is welcome to share his title by supporting his ignorant views, its fine by me. :lol:

Therefore the onus is on Turkey to get those chapters unblocked.

Cyprus has been working hard to accommodate Turkey and has offered a compromise to get some of those chapters unblocked.

As for France, that might all change at their next elections.


Compromise? :lol:

Bargain more like!

So it is a metter of perception.

Blocked chapters means it has nothing to do with Turkey's progression, unlike what that Jeremy Cuntson makes it out to be. Did I mention what an ignorant prick he was? :lol:

It is political and political can mean many things, things not necessarily in Turkey's control.

EU is not as square as you make it out to be. She has already proved that her membership does not rely on progression, but is used as a political weapon to maneuver other countries into what they think is fit.

Load of bollocks if you ask me, Turkey should just give the middle finger and tell them to go fuck themselves.

She is currently growing fast without the EU anyway.
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Postby Me Ed » Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:25 pm

shahmaran wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Me Ed wrote:Turkey will join the EU once it meets the criteria - its simples.


Don't be naive.

I've just had a look at the negotiation process, there's a clear table on Wikipedia at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_Turkey_to_the_European_Union

Sure, Turkey has a lot of work to do but it's not impossible.


There are 35 Chapters to be fulfilled. Since 2005 only 13 of them has been opened, the other 18 has been blocked by France and Cyprus for various reasons.

So no, Turkey cannot just "join" when she meets the criteria, because she is being blocked, not because the East is poor, but because there are deeper issues with other countries who oppose her membership.

Even if the East was the holiday capital of the EU, Turkey would still be struggling to join, because the real problem is political, not economical.

This is why Jeremy is an ignorant prick, by pretending that the above does not exist and boiling the problems down to simple stuff like the hole-in-the-ground toilets. :roll:

Anyone is welcome to share his title by supporting his ignorant views, its fine by me. :lol:

Therefore the onus is on Turkey to get those chapters unblocked.

Cyprus has been working hard to accommodate Turkey and has offered a compromise to get some of those chapters unblocked.

As for France, that might all change at their next elections.


Compromise? :lol:

Bargain more like!

So it is a metter of perception.

Blocked chapters means it has nothing to do with Turkey's progression, unlike what that Jeremy Cuntson makes it out to be. Did I mention what an ignorant prick he was? :lol:

It is political and political can mean many things, things not necessarily in Turkey's control.

EU is not as square as you make it out to be. She has already proved that her membership does not rely on progression, but is used as a political weapon to maneuver other countries into what they think is fit.

Load of bollocks if you ask me, Turkey should just give the middle finger and tell them to go fuck themselves.

She is currently growing fast without the EU anyway.

Well it is in Turkeys control to open it's ports to Cypriot traffic. Now surely that would get some chapters open?
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Postby shahmaran » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:53 pm

Me Ed wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Me Ed wrote:Turkey will join the EU once it meets the criteria - its simples.


Don't be naive.

I've just had a look at the negotiation process, there's a clear table on Wikipedia at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_Turkey_to_the_European_Union

Sure, Turkey has a lot of work to do but it's not impossible.


There are 35 Chapters to be fulfilled. Since 2005 only 13 of them has been opened, the other 18 has been blocked by France and Cyprus for various reasons.

So no, Turkey cannot just "join" when she meets the criteria, because she is being blocked, not because the East is poor, but because there are deeper issues with other countries who oppose her membership.

Even if the East was the holiday capital of the EU, Turkey would still be struggling to join, because the real problem is political, not economical.

This is why Jeremy is an ignorant prick, by pretending that the above does not exist and boiling the problems down to simple stuff like the hole-in-the-ground toilets. :roll:

Anyone is welcome to share his title by supporting his ignorant views, its fine by me. :lol:

Therefore the onus is on Turkey to get those chapters unblocked.

Cyprus has been working hard to accommodate Turkey and has offered a compromise to get some of those chapters unblocked.

As for France, that might all change at their next elections.


Compromise? :lol:

Bargain more like!

So it is a metter of perception.

Blocked chapters means it has nothing to do with Turkey's progression, unlike what that Jeremy Cuntson makes it out to be. Did I mention what an ignorant prick he was? :lol:

It is political and political can mean many things, things not necessarily in Turkey's control.

EU is not as square as you make it out to be. She has already proved that her membership does not rely on progression, but is used as a political weapon to maneuver other countries into what they think is fit.

Load of bollocks if you ask me, Turkey should just give the middle finger and tell them to go fuck themselves.

She is currently growing fast without the EU anyway.

Well it is in Turkeys control to open it's ports to Cypriot traffic. Now surely that would get some chapters open?


Why should Turkey give them freedom of trade when they don't give it to us?
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:10 pm

The other day Turkey bragged to the world’s wealthiest entity, that without her the EU could never be a world leader! :? :lol:

Shah, stop sounding like Turkey! :?
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Postby Me Ed » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:11 pm

shahmaran wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Me Ed wrote:Turkey will join the EU once it meets the criteria - its simples.


Don't be naive.

I've just had a look at the negotiation process, there's a clear table on Wikipedia at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_Turkey_to_the_European_Union

Sure, Turkey has a lot of work to do but it's not impossible.


There are 35 Chapters to be fulfilled. Since 2005 only 13 of them has been opened, the other 18 has been blocked by France and Cyprus for various reasons.

So no, Turkey cannot just "join" when she meets the criteria, because she is being blocked, not because the East is poor, but because there are deeper issues with other countries who oppose her membership.

Even if the East was the holiday capital of the EU, Turkey would still be struggling to join, because the real problem is political, not economical.

This is why Jeremy is an ignorant prick, by pretending that the above does not exist and boiling the problems down to simple stuff like the hole-in-the-ground toilets. :roll:

Anyone is welcome to share his title by supporting his ignorant views, its fine by me. :lol:

Therefore the onus is on Turkey to get those chapters unblocked.

Cyprus has been working hard to accommodate Turkey and has offered a compromise to get some of those chapters unblocked.

As for France, that might all change at their next elections.


Compromise? :lol:

Bargain more like!

So it is a metter of perception.

Blocked chapters means it has nothing to do with Turkey's progression, unlike what that Jeremy Cuntson makes it out to be. Did I mention what an ignorant prick he was? :lol:

It is political and political can mean many things, things not necessarily in Turkey's control.

EU is not as square as you make it out to be. She has already proved that her membership does not rely on progression, but is used as a political weapon to maneuver other countries into what they think is fit.

Load of bollocks if you ask me, Turkey should just give the middle finger and tell them to go fuck themselves.

She is currently growing fast without the EU anyway.

Well it is in Turkeys control to open it's ports to Cypriot traffic. Now surely that would get some chapters open?


Why should Turkey give them freedom of trade when they don't give it to us?

I'm talking about negotiations between the Cyprus and Turkey, what the trnc wants is, well ... up to them.
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Postby Lit » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:47 pm

shahmaran wrote:Well I can't do anything about your ignorance.



Indeed, the ignorance is all ours.

http://tinyurl.com/24k3jn6

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Postby shahmaran » Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:56 pm

Lit wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Well I can't do anything about your ignorance.



Indeed, the ignorance is all ours.

http://tinyurl.com/24k3jn6

Do not speak the alien language in my presence!


What is your point?

Kurdish is not an official language so why should it be spoken in the Parliament?

No one understands it but a few.
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Postby Gasman » Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:01 pm

Cyprus has been working hard to accommodate Turkey and has offered a compromise to get some of those chapters unblocked.


Are you nuts?
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