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Turkey joining the EU? Over my dead dog's body.

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Postby Hermes » Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:54 am

shahmaran wrote:
Gasman wrote:Clarkson earns his living being outrageous, provocative and insulting to all sorts of people.

He was in trouble with 'lorry drivers' for this gem:

This is a hard job, and I'm not just saying that to win favour with lorry drivers - it's a hard job. Change gear, change gear, change gear, check mirror, murder a prostitute, change gear, change gear, murder.


Do you imagine he convinced the rest of the world that all lorry drivers were murderers of prostitutes because he said that?

He's offended the gay community in the past. Called Gordon Brown a one eyed idiot (had to apologise for that). Offended Special Needs people (had to apologise for that too)

He is REQUIRED to be offensive - they'd lose half their audience for his show if he tamed down.

But if some want to see him as a statesman or as someone who wields influence in world politics ... well - let them! :lol: :lol:


Thank you for confirming Gasman.

The guy is a worthless prick, and that is exactly what he gets paid for, being a cunt.

I seriously doubt his words are going to make the slightest difference on Turkey's tourism, as some naive people here seem to believe so.

Dam, some people must be way too desperate :roll:


Both of you miss the point. I don't normally have time for Jeremy Clarkson but the fact that this article has been commissioned, writtten and published in one of Britain's most prestigious newspapers is relevant. This is an article in 'The Sunday Times' about why Turkey is unfit to join the EU and it asks us to consider that the image Turkey likes to project of itself as a modern European country is far from the truth.

So Clarkson goes to the vast undeveloped rural hinterland of Eastern Turkey where Turkey's "economic miracle" hasn't reached. Clarkson doesn't write about the Kurdish issue or the occupation of Cyprus or the denial of the Armenian genocide. Nor does he consider Turkey's democratic shortcomings as the reason for its failed European accession. It's not on his agenda.

Instead he looks at what kind of place Turkey really is once you get away from the tourist areas. Clarkson may be over the top in the way he writes but he writes what he sees and it's "absolutely awful". He paints a vivid picture of an economically backward, violent and desolate place.

As Turkey turns eastwards and turns its back on the West it's inevitable that the West is beginning to look again at what kind of place Turkey really is. It's no coincidence that this article addresses that issue. Clarkson's article won't be the last article you'll see in the West questioning what kind of place Turkey really is.
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Postby shahmaran » Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:21 am

Clarkson is a moron for not knowing that the Eastern part of Turkey is no different to the rural areas of any new Eastern European country, which have already got into the EU in that state.

Ever been to Bulgaria? Guess not.

So the fact that he takes a shot at Turkey with very little knowledge of whatever he is talking about, does not only prove what an ignorant prick he really is, but also underlines the double standards of the EU one more time.

The idiot cannot see passed the aesthetics of the rural people, he speaks just like an ignorant rich British upper class member, with testicles in his mouth.

What a cock!
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Postby Oracle » Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:27 am

Gasman wrote:On the subject of 'conditions', psychologists say that talking about yourself in the third person is a sign of narcissism, megalomania and self-importance. I think they got that one right!

And apparently:

If for any reason you ever talk about yourself in the third person, you're teetering on the edge of an abyss. There's no excuse for it. I don't care if you're the CEO or the hot-shottest marketing hot shot the world has ever seen. It's crass and ill-bred to use your own name when referring to yourself.


I wasn't "talking" about myself in the third person you moronic nitwit. I was writing! Besides, I was answering CopperLine's comments about "Oracle". Get a mind and stop trolling with Googled factoids!
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Postby Me Ed » Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:32 am

shahmaran wrote:Clarkson is a moron for not knowing that the Eastern part of Turkey is no different to the rural areas of any new Eastern European country, which have already got into the EU in that state.

Ever been to Bulgaria? Guess not.

So the fact that he takes a shot at Turkey with very little knowledge of whatever he is talking about, does not only prove what an ignorant prick he really is, but also underlines the double standards of the EU one more time.

The idiot cannot see passed the aesthetics of the rural people, he speaks just like an ignorant rich British upper class member, with testicles in his mouth.

What a cock!

There are a myriad of reasons why Turkey is unfit to join the EU, Clarkson has only identified one of them.

It's clearly evident, that just like the TCs, Turkey policy is holding the Kurds back and resulting in economic isolation.
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Postby miltiades » Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:44 am

shahmaran wrote:Clarkson is a moron for not knowing that the Eastern part of Turkey is no different to the rural areas of any new Eastern European country, which have already got into the EU in that state.

Ever been to Bulgaria? Guess not.

So the fact that he takes a shot at Turkey with very little knowledge of whatever he is talking about, does not only prove what an ignorant prick he really is, but also underlines the double standards of the EU one more time.

The idiot cannot see passed the aesthetics of the rural people, he speaks just like an ignorant rich British upper class member, with testicles in his mouth.

What a cock!

He got up your nose for exposing the low mentality that exists in some parts of Turkey about animal care . You do not like the fact that when it comes to dealing with matters that are pretty disgusting in Turkey , the honour killings come to mind , the treatment of its minorities , the Kurds for instance , you react angrily in defence of what after all like it or not is a third world nation !
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Postby Raymanoff » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:47 pm

just search "RURAL TURKEY" in google images... :D
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Postby shahmaran » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:20 pm

Well I can't do anything about your ignorance.

None of you has ever been to Turkey, yet here you are.

What more is there to say :lol:

Only 2 countries oppose Turkey's accession out of the entire EU.

One of them because still holds a sore ass, the other is run by a fascist prick who's IQ is somewhere on the lines of Berlusconi. :lol:
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Postby Me Ed » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:39 pm

Turkey will join the EU once it meets the criteria - its simples.
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Postby shahmaran » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:40 pm

Me Ed wrote:Turkey will join the EU once it meets the criteria - its simples.


Don't be naive.
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Postby Me Ed » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:45 pm

shahmaran wrote:
Me Ed wrote:Turkey will join the EU once it meets the criteria - its simples.


Don't be naive.

I've just had a look at the negotiation process, there's a clear table on Wikipedia at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_Turkey_to_the_European_Union

Sure, Turkey has a lot of work to do but it's not impossible.
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