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Postby Get Real! » Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:12 pm

All4114All wrote:Sure lets start at 1570 GR you may have been under Ottoman Rule but you were able to practice your religion beliefs despite the oppression of foreign subjugation, the period of Ottoman rule (1570-1878) had a limited impact on Greek Cypriot culture so thats 300 years of no ethnic cleansing but to live under an 'empire'.

The Ottoman Genocide of the indigenous people of Cyprus…

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle04.htm

Don’t EVER come and teach me “Cyprus” you uneducated little Turkish punk!
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Postby ZoC » Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:02 pm

shahmaran wrote:
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shahmaran wrote:Just take it like a man and shut up ZoC.... :)


what's this? a coalition of the retarded? :lol:



More like an execution of THE retard...


don't be so hard on yourself... and, in any event, in civilised countries capital punishment is no longer acceptable. i'm content to condemn you to a life sentence in a secure isolation unit, with 40,000 armed guards providing protection.
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Postby shahmaran » Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:18 pm

ZoC wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
ZoC wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Just take it like a man and shut up ZoC.... :)


what's this? a coalition of the retarded? :lol:



More like an execution of THE retard...


don't be so hard on yourself... and, in any event, in civilised countries capital punishment is no longer acceptable. i'm content to condemn you to a life sentence in a secure isolation unit, with 40,000 armed guards providing protection.


Yeah its pretty cozy here, what are you going to do about it? :lol:
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Postby shahmaran » Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:19 pm

Get Real! wrote:
All4114All wrote:Just like everyone else the problem began in 1974 :?

Of course not! It began in 1570.


If anyone should be commited to anything I think the EU should commit to keep it's promise in regards to direct trade as promised after the Annan Plan vote.

See Green Line Regulation. Surely you didn't think that the "promise" involved recognition via violations of international law!


When the Otties came you were already under occupation.

Come to think of it, when were you not occupied? :lol:
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Postby ZoC » Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:09 pm

shahmaran wrote:
ZoC wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
ZoC wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Just take it like a man and shut up ZoC.... :)


what's this? a coalition of the retarded? :lol:



More like an execution of THE retard...


don't be so hard on yourself... and, in any event, in civilised countries capital punishment is no longer acceptable. i'm content to condemn you to a life sentence in a secure isolation unit, with 40,000 armed guards providing protection.


Yeah its pretty cozy here, what are you going to do about it? :lol:


i'll stop fraternizing with the prison population from now on as it gives them delusions of adequacy.
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Postby All4114All » Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:13 pm

Get Real! wrote:
All4114All wrote:Sure lets start at 1570 GR you may have been under Ottoman Rule but you were able to practice your religion beliefs despite the oppression of foreign subjugation, the period of Ottoman rule (1570-1878) had a limited impact on Greek Cypriot culture so thats 300 years of no ethnic cleansing but to live under an 'empire'.

The Ottoman Genocide of the indigenous people of Cyprus…

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle04.htm

Don’t EVER come and teach me “Cyprus” you uneducated little Turkish punk!


First your trying to tell me to become educated from your own published website GetReal Copyright 2009 you do host it dont you?

What I am facinated for you to tell me is how does being under an Empire Rule comparing genocide 1570-1878 what you claim to RoC declaring independence from british rule and the genocide under the declaration of independence over 11 years the same?

Here is something out of your link
In accordance with the UN General Assembly’s resolution 260 A (III) of 1948, the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide has the following explanation:

Article 1
The Contracting Parties confirm that genocide, whether committed in time of peace or in time of war, is a crime under international law which they undertake to prevent and to punish.

Article 2
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.


Well Well Well what have we got here seems to me actions taken by EOKA-B and G/C polititians after 1948 nicely falls into place here oh wait the double standards of the world I forgot and you must forgotten aswell.

Just another little thing this resolution was created 1948 Ottoman was long gone. You can't punish someone for doing something when you create the law afterwards. Thats why if the same action was taken today war crime charges will be punished to the perpetrator oh wait the double standards of the world again Georgios Grivas I forgot and you must of forgotten aswell.

Again whatever our actions were under the Ottoman Rule it was an empire as to the Roman Empire and the many empires that conquered Cyprus many many deaths for many many purposes. You watch Braveheart William Wallace maybe you should charge him with Genocide :D But the actions of G/C politicians was under the Declaration of Independence and as you support after 1948 UN resolution.
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Postby shahmaran » Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:06 pm

ZoC wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
ZoC wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
ZoC wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Just take it like a man and shut up ZoC.... :)


what's this? a coalition of the retarded? :lol:



More like an execution of THE retard...


don't be so hard on yourself... and, in any event, in civilised countries capital punishment is no longer acceptable. i'm content to condemn you to a life sentence in a secure isolation unit, with 40,000 armed guards providing protection.


Yeah its pretty cozy here, what are you going to do about it? :lol:


i'll stop fraternizing with the prison population from now on as it gives them delusions of adequacy.


Yeah, you do that buddy.

Go play along now :lol:
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Postby insan » Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:58 am

Get Real! wrote:
All4114All wrote:Sure lets start at 1570 GR you may have been under Ottoman Rule but you were able to practice your religion beliefs despite the oppression of foreign subjugation, the period of Ottoman rule (1570-1878) had a limited impact on Greek Cypriot culture so thats 300 years of no ethnic cleansing but to live under an 'empire'.

The Ottoman Genocide of the indigenous people of Cyprus…

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle04.htm

Don’t EVER come and teach me “Cyprus” you uneducated little Turkish punk!


The little, uneducated, brainwashed, kırokitiyan GR thinks that the Cyprus' people died by the Great Plague were massacred by Ottomans! :lol:

This Great Plague was the last recurrence of an epidemic of bubonic plague in Marseille, since the devastating episodes which began in the fourteenth century with the European Black Death.[2] In 1720, the plague bacillus Yersinia pestis arrived at the port of Marseille from the Levant. The merchant ship, the Grand-Saint-Antoine, had departed from Sidon in Lebanon, having previously called at Smyrna, Tripoli, and plague-ridden Cyprus.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Plague_of_Marseille

Chronology

1571-1878 Three centuries of Turkish rule under the Ottomans. Only resistance offered by Venentian strongholds of Nicosia and Famagusta. Islanders themselves glad to see end of oppressive Venetian rule. Orthodox church recognised again and Archbishopric restored. Feudal system abolished, but heavy taxes imposed, using church as tax collectors.

1625-1700 Great depopulation of Cyprus. Plague wipes out over half of the population


1821 Greek Cypriots side with Greece in revolt against Turkish rule. Island's leading churchmen executed in punishment.

http://www.fact-index.com/h/hi/history_of_cyprus.html
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Postby All4114All » Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:04 pm

insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
All4114All wrote:Sure lets start at 1570 GR you may have been under Ottoman Rule but you were able to practice your religion beliefs despite the oppression of foreign subjugation, the period of Ottoman rule (1570-1878) had a limited impact on Greek Cypriot culture so thats 300 years of no ethnic cleansing but to live under an 'empire'.

The Ottoman Genocide of the indigenous people of Cyprus…

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle04.htm

Don’t EVER come and teach me “Cyprus” you uneducated little Turkish punk!


The little, uneducated, brainwashed, kırokitiyan GR thinks that the Cyprus' people died by the Great Plague were massacred by Ottomans! :lol:

This Great Plague was the last recurrence of an epidemic of bubonic plague in Marseille, since the devastating episodes which began in the fourteenth century with the European Black Death.[2] In 1720, the plague bacillus Yersinia pestis arrived at the port of Marseille from the Levant. The merchant ship, the Grand-Saint-Antoine, had departed from Sidon in Lebanon, having previously called at Smyrna, Tripoli, and plague-ridden Cyprus.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Plague_of_Marseille

Chronology

1571-1878 Three centuries of Turkish rule under the Ottomans. Only resistance offered by Venentian strongholds of Nicosia and Famagusta. Islanders themselves glad to see end of oppressive Venetian rule. Orthodox church recognised again and Archbishopric restored. Feudal system abolished, but heavy taxes imposed, using church as tax collectors.

1625-1700 Great depopulation of Cyprus. Plague wipes out over half of the population


1821 Greek Cypriots side with Greece in revolt against Turkish rule. Island's leading churchmen executed in punishment.

http://www.fact-index.com/h/hi/history_of_cyprus.html


The Great Plague which I forgot to mentioned is also supported by GR website although he makes no mention of it but by dates and population growth are evidence of a plague which he calls 'Ottoman Genocide'.

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle04.htm
“Table 5. Population of Cyprus, Selected Years, 1491-1973”
Year - Population - Increase - Ruler
1491 - 168,000 ??? Venetian
1575 - 180,000 +12,000 in 84 years Ottoman
1881 - 186,200 +6,200 in 306 years Ottoman

1891 - 209,300 +28,000 in 10 years British
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Postby shahmaran » Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:22 pm

Must be one of Piratis's sources :roll:
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