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What do you consider vital for your community?

[mehmet]

I don't care for the British bases, but I do thinnk Greece and Turkey should continue to guarantee the independence of Cyprus.

[PEACE]

No restrictions in settelement,abolishment of UN army,abolishment of Alliance and Guarantee Treaty.That's all !

If there won't be any resrictions in settelement i think that there must be restrictions about political rights in Turkish Constituent State.Here is the point is to be protected from Greek dominance.

[X-ite]

If there won't be any resrictions in settelement i think that there must be restrictions about political rights in Turkish Constituent State.

Ok but I asked about settlement, you previously said that you don't want restrictions on settlement to be removed, why?

[PEACE]

Because if there won't be any restrictions in settlement and also there won't be any restrictions in political rights in Turkish Constituent State than when number of GCs becomes more than TCs in Turkish COnstituent State TCs lost their power in management of Turkish Constituent State!

[X-ite]

Ok but what if there restrictions in political rights but not in settlement?
You wouldn't oppose that would you?

[MicAtCyp]

Peace said...."Because if there won't be any restrictions in settlement and also there won't be any restrictions in political rights in Turkish Constituent State than when number of GCs becomes more than TCs in Turkish COnstituent State TCs lost their power in management of Turkish Constituent State!"

Do you understand that now we are in Europe and such restrictions are impossible? Even if just one citizen files a suit at the European court of human rights every such restriction will have to be abolished. The only practical way to achive your absolute political control in the area under your administration is to limit its extend to a very small percentage of land-even less than 18%. I think I explained the same thing in detail in the past. I know you didn’t like it, but that’s the reality. A Federal State with restrictions in settlement and political rights is totally against the EU Aquis. Stop dreaming of the so called "Federal system" of the Anan Plan.That was not Federal that was Appartheit, and after May 1st it can only be a dream in the imagination of some people.START THINKING OF A UNITARY STATE from now on which intitially will be BI-REGIONAL but in the long run might not. The important thing is to have your rights and your specific concerns written in the constitution.

PS. And by the way the Anan plan is dead.In a few days we will be having its 3 month memorial.Your are all invited to co-memorate its sudden death at 24 April 2004 due to cancer. Certified by 76 wise doctors. Bring some kollyfa with you and some flowers.

[Turker]

I don't object any freedom of settlement as long as there is politicial restriction in elections. But it shouldn't be interim and guaranteed by EU.

I won't object anything above unless rights of TCs, gained with 60's treaties are abolished.

[PEACE]

Ok but what if there restrictions in political rights but not in settlement?
You wouldn't oppose that would you?

No,i wouldn't oppose !

[PEACE]

Do you understand that now we are in Europe and such restrictions are impossible? Even if just one citizen files a suit at the European court of human rights every such restriction will have to be abolished.

No,it is not ! You are wrong.We call these derogations and EU accepts temporary derrogations! Also according to past court decisions,court take care of regulations for peace and order.So court is going to take care of peace agreement.It must be so sensetive because if it abolish this restrictions peace and order can damage badly!

START THINKING OF A UNITARY STATE from now on which intitially will be BI-REGIONAL but in the long run might not. The important thing is to have your rights and your specific concerns written in the constitution.

We saw what happened in unitary Republic Of Cyprus.

PS. And by the way the Anan plan is dead.In a few days we will be having its 3 month memorial.Your are all invited to co-memorate its sudden death at 24 April 2004 due to cancer. Certified by 76 wise doctors. Bring some kollyfa with you and some flowers.

Yes,its name is dead...But its content will be the base of all other future plans.Keep Annan Plan and than when new UN plan comes compare its content with Annan Plan.

PS:Denktas is also saying that Annan Plan is dead and can't come back!

Wait and see my friend!