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[Get Real!]

Conner if you’re reading this forum, once more I will offer my advice to you which I hope you’ll heed for the sake of your family.

I strongly advise you to go over your entire website and remove all references and insinuations of a problem with “Cyprus” and replace them with the company you have a gripe with.

Also, add at the top of your website a clear public apology to the RoC for insinuating a problem with the country under extreme duress that Karyiannis had caused you.

This may well be your lifesaver because I assure you that Cypriots are a very understanding and forgiving people.

[supporttheunderdog]

As a long-term resident of the asylum, , I have seen many atmospheric peaks and troughs signalling the departure of numerous (reluctant) casualties and the arrival of lots of good, some bad and a few ugly, newbies.

This recent decline I put down to relentless trolling and dishonest, anti-Cypriot campaigning by the likes of Gasfart and Milo. They are totally devoid of humour and drag others down to their miserable, low-life levels.

We usually have a sustained stream of anti-Cypriot threads, fueling debating battles. But, most Brits have a spark of logic and/or humour with which one can gain anchorage. Not so, the followers and disciples of "Conor the Blahbarian".

The quality is not helped by the out and out racism of some -
Cyprus could be paradise - got forbid it it should be little Britain in the Sun, Now fair enough, we have corrupt and racist politicians . polcemen, etc in the UK - the Cypriot expat community based there is welcome to complain about them,and yes there are some appaling Brit immigrants out here who spend all of their time on the pop, and who whinge without good reason, but there are problems with Cyprus that all in Cyprus should feel free to address, without being subject to a barrage of racist abuse, or being told that if you do not like it, to leave: the property mis-selling issue is one.

Now if some of you don't like the message, dont shoot the messenger, but look objectively at the grounds for complaint.

If for example you don't like the bitching about the property mortgage scam issue, take it up with the Builders, the lawyers, the banks, etc., and get them to clean up their act.

In that regard, as I was hoping to say before the Topic was locked, possibly due to the level to which Get Real had descended, I think that O' Dwyers' alleged defamatory comment was quite reasonable: at the minimum anyone thinking of buying in Cyprus should be aware of Karynannis and now proven criminal behaviour, and also of what, if what Mr O'Dwyer says is true, appears to me to be the appaling way the authorities failed to take any action to investiagate the assult until Mr O Dwyer resorted to publicity with his website and protest outside of the high commision in London.


Now if you want some really cool music to chill out to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSGdw0KZoOk

I lived in the UK for many years and the usual response if you mentioned you don't like the weather, the food, the politics etc ... was, "go back to your on country!". And I didn't even choose to end up in the UK! I was 6 years old. We were napalmed and bombed out of our village. Imagine then, what one could say to those who supposedly choose to move to Cyprus! Why do they defame, criticise, and more importantly, support the enemy occupants of Cyprus?

As for "Conor", I don't think you know what you're talking about.

It appears from stuff he posted here, that the guy couldn't wait for normal procedures but mounted a defamatory campaign not only specifically at the developer whom he seemingly baited, but also generally against Cyprus and its people. GR! has responded brilliantly to this so I can't add to it but it begs belief how recalcitrant some Brits are to logic!

In keeping with the tradition of posting youtube, I add mine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBoYZqmcZuc

Nice song - but I prefer "dreamer".

I'd also be inclined to tell any Brit who bitched about the weather or the food in Cyprus to go home - one does have to accept things are different oveaseas and you have my deepest sympathy for having it forced upon you, under the circunstances of of the two invasions first by Greece (as per Makarios at the UN) and then by Turkey. For the avoidance of doubt I consider that the Turkish amy has no place here and there should be a proper resolution of the dispute to enable as many people as is possible to return to their pre-troubles homes, both Greek and Turkish Cypriots. I have no truck with the Orams of this world.

As to O'Dwyer, I am aware there are two sides to every story but what has he said about events that is factually incorrect and /or that is otherwise defamatory. He has after all backed up his story with evdence, and so far I have seen no evidence at all that he has said anything . which it so far appears to me is more than can said for those who try to Rubbish him.

Evidence, Evidence, Evidence.

[Get Real!]

I would wager that most people anywhere in the world who handover hundreds of thousands of pounds for real estate after paying for independent local legal representation but end up with no title deed for many years will be, to say lightly, frustrated with the system. This isn't frustration at the people that live under the system or the nationalist guy/gal on the internet, but the mechanisms that don't appear to have provided protection to the buyer.

Get Real said he wants a war with the British .... more than a little worrying to be honest, as all i think, 'they' want is the security of the title deeds for the home(s) they purchased in Cyprus. Once they don't feel like they are being screwed over then normal banter can resume, i guess.

Mate, you don’t want to know what we went through in the UK in the 60s and 70s!

So don’t start me off…

[supporttheunderdog]

In that regard, as I was hoping to say before the Topic was locked, possibly due to the level to which Get Real had descended,

You mean you got ripped apart!

I think that O' Dwyers' alleged defamatory comment was quite reasonable: at the minimum anyone thinking of buying in Cyprus should be aware of Karynannis and now proven criminal behaviour, and also of what, if what Mr O'Dwyer says is true, appears to me to be the appaling way the authorities failed to take any action to investiagate the asult until Mr O Dwyer resorted to publicity with his website and protest outside of the high commision in London.

We have no qualms about Karayiannis receiving bad publicity if he so deserves, but what has Cyprus got to do with this case?

Absolutely nothing that’s what!

It’s what I warned Conner about a couple of years ago here on this forum when he first started the public funny talk but he wouldn’t listen… now watch the RoC decimate him in court!

Ripped apart? In your dreams.

Read his remarks about the way the Cyprus Police failed to respond to his complaint about the assult. That is what the state of Cyprus has to do with it.

If Conner thinks he can dictate the time taken to process a court/police case and use that as justification to defaming the state he’s got another thing coming!

I’ll bet the state’s case against Conner will be heard so fast that if it weren’t against him he’d be proud of them!

Justice delayed is Justice denied and it seems possible he would have had no justice at all if he had not started his public protest.

[supporttheunderdog]

Jesus imagine what life would have been like in the UK if, 40 yrs after the end of WWII all the Brits were still spouting hatred against the Germans as you are now against the Tcs?

wot a ridiculous analogy.... the war isn't over in cyprus..

imagine what life would be in the uk if a third of britain had been invaded and occupied by nazi germany; if they'd built statues of hitler and flew swastika flags all over the southern part of england; if hoardes of germans had been moved over from germany to repopulate the abandoned southern towns... what would the brits who'd been squeezed north of brum be doing? sending the krauts flowers?

How quickly they forget that in the 70s all British TV ever did was Hitler! From Benny Hill to Faulty Towers, they just couldn’t get enough of him and that was 30 years AFTER WWII and no territory under occupation!

brits leading by example...

Yes we are quite good at satire (and taking the piss out of our own attitudes!)

and that's what i'm doing... taking the piss out of your attitudes.

Dont bother mater - not as far as I am concerned - water of a ducks back! I have the piss ripped out of me far more effectively by better piss takers than you will ever be.

[Get Real!]

Justice delayed is Justice denied and it seems possible he would have had no justice at all if he had not started his public protest.

Delays are best dealt by the Ombudsman but I don't know if he's used that avenue...

[BigDutch]

Mate, you don’t want to know what we went through in the UK in the 60s and 70s! So don’t start me off…

I don't know i was learning to dribble and crawl in the 70's so whilst I certainly don't want to belittle or ignore anything that caused distress in your past outside of Cyprus, are you seriously telling me that because of what ever you are intimating happened in the UK, British (or other foreign) buyers in Cyprus shouldn't expect to receive the security of a title deed in direct return for their money? Or is it tit-tat eye-eye going on !?!

Anyway, sorry to rant, but many home owners are very worried out there, about now, about their future. Conor's 'marketing' of his problem can be related to by many that have brought lump sums into Cyprus and setup home here. The sort of attacking comments that were made in the now locked Conor thread send shivers down my spine if that is the sort of support 'we' are likely to receive when developer(s) default on mortgage(s) and bank(s) reclaim the mortgage security or ask for the developers loan to be paid off by the current occupants !

It may well be a British-Cypriot culture clash but 'siga siga' when it comes to home ownership isn't cute anymore.

[lola-tulip]

It takes two to four years to bring a case to court in Cyprus. How long in the UK, I don't know, but I have heard it is slow. How long did this man wait before complaining wholeheartedly about Cyprus?

[supporttheunderdog]

Jesus imagine what life would have been like in the UK if, 40 yrs after the end of WWII all the Brits were still spouting hatred against the Germans as you are now against the Tcs?

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err, Gasman- the war , err, ended like, err, 65 years ago, - I think.

Even 1966 is now forty four years ago!

[lola-tulip]

Am I correct, he waited only few months?