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[Get Real!]

Mate, you don’t want to know what we went through in the UK in the 60s and 70s! So don’t start me off…

I don't know i was learning to dribble and crawl in the 70's so whilst I certainly don't want to belittle or ignore anything that caused distress in your past outside of Cyprus, are you seriously telling me that because of what ever you are intimating happened in the UK, British (or other foreign) buyers in Cyprus shouldn't expect to receive the security of a title deed in direct return for their money? Or is it tit-tat eye-eye going on !?!

Anyway, sorry to rant, but many home owners are very worried out there, about now, about their future. Conor's 'marketing' of his problem can be related to by many that have brought lump sums into Cyprus and setup home here. The sort of attacking comments that were made in the now locked Conor thread send shivers down my spine if that is the sort of support 'we' are likely to receive when developer(s) default on mortgage(s) and bank(s) reclaim the mortgage security or ask for the developers loan to be paid off by the current occupants !

It may well be a British-Cypriot culture clash but 'siga siga' when it comes to home ownership isn't cute anymore.

Arm yourselves with the right tools…


Competition and Consumer Protection Service
http://www.mcit.gov.cy/mcit/mcit.nsf/dm ... enDocument

Consumer Complaints
http://www.mcit.gov.cy/mcit/mcit.nsf/dm ... n?OpenForm

The Commission for the Protection of Competition
http://www.competition.gov.cy/competiti ... enDocument

The Office of the Commissioner for Administration (Ombudsman)
http://www.ombudsman.gov.cy/Ombudsman/o ... n?OpenForm

The Independent Police Complaint Commission
http://www.iaiacap.gov.cy/iaiacap/iaiac ... n?OpenForm


…but just don’t exchange blows with others!

[supporttheunderdog]

It takes two to four years to bring a case to court in Cyprus. How long in the UK, I don't know, but I have heard it is slow. How long did this man wait before complaining wholeheartedly about Cyprus?

It does not take two to four years in the UK to get most Criminal cases heard, except for the more complex serious fraid or terroriost cases, the average is about 18 weeks from committal to trial in the Crown court.

As he pointed out in his letter to the president, other cases were dealt with a lot faster.

If it takes two to four years, and the process involves lots of adjourments, that suggests there is scope for improvement.
There is certainly scope for checking if his case exceded the norm, and, if so, why.

In Civil cases, since the Woolfe reforms, the process is a lot quicker than it used to be, as the courts now drive the process a lot harder and there is less scope for either party to delay.

[Sotos]

Justice delayed is Justice denied

I don't think there is such thing as instant justice. Justice always comes with some delay. I don't know how it is in other countries but in Cyprus court cases don't go very fast. I think it is very arrogant to demand and blackmail in such a way trying to push your own case ahead of everybody else. Are the rest of us who are waiting for our turn idiots? It would be great if all court cases would go faster but for that to happen you need more judges and the relevant facilities and this means more money. Should the state put more taxes so they will get more money to improve this and other issues? Maybe. But I am sure those who now bitch that the courts are slow will be the first ones who will bitch about the additional taxes!

[supporttheunderdog]

Lola Tulip = read his story carefully on Lyingbuilder.com.

If what he says is true, there appear to have been a number of efforts to frustrate the proceedings on the part of the prosecuting authorities, which should be a cause for concern.

[supporttheunderdog]

I would wager that most people anywhere in the world who handover hundreds of thousands of pounds for real estate after paying for independent local legal representation but end up with no title deed for many years will be, to say lightly, frustrated with the system. This isn't frustration at the people that live under the system or the nationalist guy/gal on the internet, but the mechanisms that don't appear to have provided protection to the buyer.

Get Real said he wants a war with the British .... more than a little worrying to be honest, as all i think, 'they' want is the security of the title deeds for the home(s) they purchased in Cyprus. Once they don't feel like they are being screwed over then normal banter can resume, i guess.

Mate, you don’t want to know what we went through in the UK in the 60s and 70s!

So don’t start me off…

What surprises me is why all of the fleeing Greek Cypriots did not flee to Greece, a country with whom many claim affinity, (and wanted Enosois) throgh language, faith and an an alleged shared ancestry, though GR, if I have read your website right, you indicate that is a it of a myth: I belive Genetic reserch confirms more of a genetic relationship with the Levant than modern day Greece.

[lola-tulip]

It takes two to four years to bring a case to court in Cyprus. How long in the UK, I don't know, but I have heard it is slow. How long did this man wait before complaining wholeheartedly about Cyprus?

It does not take two to four years in the UK to get most Criminal cases heard, except for the more complex serious fraid or terroriost cases, the average is about 18 weeks from committal to trial in the Crown court.

As he pointed out in his letter to the president, other cases were dealt with a lot faster.

If it takes two to four years, and the process involves lots of adjourments, that suggests there is scope for improvement.
There is certainly scope for checking if his case exceded the norm, and, if so, why.

In Civil cases, since the Woolfe reforms, the process is a lot quicker than it used to be, as the courts now drive the process a lot harder and there is less scope for either party to delay.

He did not wait very long before complaining about procedures in Cyprus. Already he has justice for his case against the builder. Will he retract his accusations about Cyprus?

[Sotos]

I would wager that most people anywhere in the world who handover hundreds of thousands of pounds for real estate after paying for independent local legal representation but end up with no title deed for many years will be, to say lightly, frustrated with the system. This isn't frustration at the people that live under the system or the nationalist guy/gal on the internet, but the mechanisms that don't appear to have provided protection to the buyer.

Get Real said he wants a war with the British .... more than a little worrying to be honest, as all i think, 'they' want is the security of the title deeds for the home(s) they purchased in Cyprus. Once they don't feel like they are being screwed over then normal banter can resume, i guess.

Mate, you don’t want to know what we went through in the UK in the 60s and 70s!

So don’t start me off…

What surprises me is why all of the fleeing Greek Cypriots did not flee to Greece, a country with whom many claim affinity, (and wanted Enosois) throgh language, faith and an an alleged shared ancestry, though GR, if I have read your website right, you indicate that is a it of a myth: I belive Genetic reserch confirms more of a genetic relationship with the Levant than modern day Greece.

Cypriots went to the UK to get back some of what the UK owns to us after robing our island for many decades. And our identity is our own decision and you are not going to tell to us what we are.

[SKI-preo]

Is this a post about vampires?

[fig head]

Once again another thread go in vain !

it turned out from a friendly thread for you people to be less boring and work out what had gone wrong with out threads and our lovely regular posters to POINT YOUR FINGER thread.!!

i dont get it CF isnt divided to two teams GR and O and the rest.!!

for what it is worth, you cant argue with the smartest two on the forum and moan you cant win over your argument !!

so,you either go hate them for being smarter or most popular than you or change your mind set and learn to accept that there is people smarter than you and better with words than you!!

Ladies of the forum, you know who you are ! please STOP being bitchy and start being the lovely LADIES who you should be !!!

GROW UP , and if you only post on CF to say how bad things is and how unhappy you are with the forum and the posers then CF isnt for you ! but dont drag all of us down !

i once was a newbie and as all other newbies ive gone through all the usual taking the piss comments out of regular posters but then im smart enough to dont let people piss me off and know how to establish my own character without bringing down all the rest..!!

I ♥ CF and hope you too do so let us be the best of us.

[CopperLine]

I agree with fig head's original question. CF CypProb is groundhog day; it is deja vu. The same old, same old abuse by the same old abusers, saying the same old things. If CF is in any way reflective of broader Cyprus life then Cyprus will remain forever divided because certain key people are so filled with hatred that they are blind to any possibility of moving on or trying a different tack.

Although I agree with fig head that new blood is needed, I also think that new blood is not enough. New blood occasionally enters the forum only to be met by a stream of abuse from certain well known bilious individuals if the newbie is even suspected of not towing the orthodox line. Anyone not prepared to put up with what is essentially hate mail leaves the forum or participates infrequently. It is dogs (and bitches) pissing at lamp posts all over again.