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[MrH]

German Model! Give it a Break Greek Cypriots. The German Model Worked for Germans Because they are Ethnically the Same people, Speak the same Language and Follow the Same Religion and Never attempted to Kill each other. While the AKRITAS PLAN Attempted to remove ALL Turkish Cypriots from the island whom were NOT of "GREEK" Heritage and did not follow HELLENISM, as the latest Nationalist Papadopoulos said. Here's an interesting Article I managed to dig up on a Greek Cypriot's idea of a Future Cyprus:

Although there are a couple of notes in this article that may need a little tweaking, it explains the IRISH Model Perfectly!


ARTICLE TITLE: Two states are better than Swiss model

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June 14, 2009
By maint

In reference to The way to a solution for Cyprus (Letters, May 31, 2009), Hans-Jacob Heitz favours a Swiss federalism solution to the divided island.

I am not sure this can work in Cyprus due to the historical animosity and mistrust of both peoples which goes back to 1571 when the Turks first arrived on the island.

I personally believe the Irish model of having two states on the one geographic area makes more sense. Today we have a Northern island and a Republic of Ireland and no one is pushing the two to unite.

What is needed here is land adjustments, compensation for lost lands or properties from both sides and eventual acceptance of one another with secure borders. As its stands, we Greek Cypriots control 63 per cent of the total area and the Turkish Cypriots 37 per cent. Prior to 1974 the Turkish Cypriots never amounted to more than 20 per cent.

I suggest a 70-75 per cent control of the overall area to the Greek Cypriots. In return recognition by the Greek Cypriots and the international community.

I do not think Turkey has the will to pull out 100,000 settlers and the 30,000-plus troops just to join the EU. On the other hand France, Germany, Austria, Netherlands, Denmark and most EU citizens do not want Turkey in the EU and prefer a privileged relationship rather than full EU membership – thus there is no incentive for Turkey.

I truly believe both communities prefer to GOVERN THEMSELVES than one another.

George K. Georgiou,
Melbourne, Australia

[MrH]

You were saying about the IRISH Model Boomerang, Boulio and Get Real! It's obvious that it's actually you guys whom do not understand the art of REALISTIC models and political scenarios. Obviously, the about, even though Written By a fellow Greek Cypriot, has now probably become your enemy - only when it suits ay!

[Get Real!]

In all honesty, the Cyprus Cucumber is the only model I foresee for “Turkish Cypriots”.

[boulio]

Why do some of you like to throw NATO in there?

Do you even know what it means to be bound by NATO rules and you treat it so lightly?

The reason Nato is thrown in there becuase they and the EU are everyday getting closer and closer and are very much intertwind.Also Turkey is a member of Nato and therefore will participate in the training and security of cyprus thru Nato.

Viewpoint by the turkish participation in NATO Should put your fears at ease.

Mrh The german model i believe would work for cyprus if it is agreed partition you want that should be another thread.

[ZoC]

the area all the prisons in the uk take up to house all its lowlife is around 0.024% of the total land mass (i just made that stat. up). why should the criminals in the north be allotted any more?

0.024% and you got a deal... and we'll even throw in some prison food.

[Get Real!]

The reason Nato is thrown in there becuase they and the EU are everyday getting closer and closer and are very much intertwind.

Yeah, I can see that!

E.U. rules let Iran import, export oil, creating possible split from U.S. policy

The United States and Europe have worked cooperatively on Iran policy since President Obama took office, but a small crack might have begun to open over sanctions that are beginning to pinch ordinary Iranians.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 05507.html

Also Turkey is a member of Nato and therefore will participate in the training and security of cyprus thru Nato.

What a clever way to give Turkey a free ticket to enter/exit Cyprus at will!

You're just too good!

[boomerang]

You were saying about the IRISH Model Boomerang, Boulio and Get Real! It's obvious that it's actually you guys whom do not understand the art of REALISTIC models and political scenarios. Obviously, the about, even though Written By a fellow Greek Cypriot, has now probably become your enemy - only when it suits ay!

there are no models built on collective punishment in the form of ethinc cleansing, so cut out the crap...

[boulio]

boulio wrote:
The reason Nato is thrown in there becuase they and the EU are everyday getting closer and closer and are very much intertwind.

Yeah, I can see that!

E.U. rules let Iran import, export oil, creating possible split from U.S. policy

The United States and Europe have worked cooperatively on Iran policy since President Obama took office, but a small crack might have begun to open over sanctions that are beginning to pinch ordinary Iranians.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 05507.html

Quote:
Also Turkey is a member of Nato and therefore will participate in the training and security of cyprus thru Nato.

What a clever way to give Turkey a free ticket to enter/exit Cyprus at will!

You're just too good!

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001 ... 74999.html

but if there is a federal model GR WHICH YOUR LEADERS HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATING SINCE 1977(YOU may not like it but that is reality)T/C to come to a agreement on security will need to have turkish particiation not solely but as part of a group.(intervention rights would be negated)

[Get Real!]

boulio wrote:
The reason Nato is thrown in there becuase they and the EU are everyday getting closer and closer and are very much intertwind.

Yeah, I can see that!

E.U. rules let Iran import, export oil, creating possible split from U.S. policy

The United States and Europe have worked cooperatively on Iran policy since President Obama took office, but a small crack might have begun to open over sanctions that are beginning to pinch ordinary Iranians.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 05507.html

Quote:
Also Turkey is a member of Nato and therefore will participate in the training and security of cyprus thru Nato.

What a clever way to give Turkey a free ticket to enter/exit Cyprus at will!

You're just too good!

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001 ... 74999.html

but if there is a federal model GR WHICH YOUR LEADERS HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATING SINCE 1977(YOU may not like it but that is reality)T/C to come to a agreement on security will need to have turkish particiation not solely but as part of a group.(intervention rights would be negated)

Some of you need to stop daydreaming of complex contradicting scenarios that can NEVER come to pass!

EU join NATO!

Federal model?

Turkish particiation?

[boomerang]

only flaw boulio...what about if one day turkey decides to leave NATO, or gets booted out of NATO?...we have seen this with iraq....nothing is static, everything is dyamic...

who would have guuesed an israel and turkey problem today?...