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[Tony-4497]

Why should i go anywhere else this is my country and where i belong

I don't mind if you (and all TCs) stay, provided you hand back the property you stole.

I don't even mind if you want to live in Cyprus on your own, so long as the land you take is equal to the one you OWN.

If what you want is to stay in Cyprus on a size of land that is two or three times the land you own, then what you are really asking for is to STEAL the property of your compatriots.

This will NEVER happen - continue demanding this and you will stay isolated, unrecognised and illegal as common thieves and criminals should be (and of course well away from the EU - which goes for you and your big mama bitch THIEF).

OH great Tony thanks for not minding that my whole 6 generations have decided to live in Cyprus .
Oh yeah there are couple of acres that are on the greek side in Lourougina that was from my forfathers . it just happened that the border crosses over on my inherited land so basically my land falls on both sides. i was hopeing that the turks took a little more land during 1974 . I am talking about my own land by the way.
I need advice here as some call it occupation however what do you term my situation as i was happy that the turks came to save us and if its termed as occupation how have they occupied my land.
I think that termonology is political or isolated to every individual experiences.

Did you actually read what I wrote? I agree that TCs like you have as much a right as GCs to be here. The debate is about land/ property.

TCs can choose one of two things, regardless of the "name" of the solution or the governance "model" is. They:

1. EITHER live WITH GCs, everyone keeps their own property everywhere in Cyprus - so you have ALL of your Lurigina land and I have all of my land in Famagusta (this I believe is the preference of most GCs);

2. OR, they choose to live separately, in an ethnically cleansed area where nearly all properties will be owned by TCs. I do not have a major problem if they choose this, so long as the land/ property issue is solved ONLY by exchange with identical properties and not compensation (as only GCs can pay this).

In other words:
- I don't really care about the type of solution
- I am happy for TCs to stay in Cy
- I am happy to accommodate their "preference" to live "on their own" in a single area broadly equal to the land they collectively own
- There will never be a solution if TCs continue to want the above in an area which 2-3 times the size of the land they own, at the expense of GCs who in such a case will just lose their land.

[CyprusNewsReport]

Why do we continue to argue back on forth the same issue, we obviously cannot tolerate each other so why on earth should we be forced to live together?

Speak for yourself. I don't have any problem tolerating anyone, no matter what their origin. It's prejudice, racism, rejectionism, living in the past and negativity that I don't tolerate.

The only way to get over this cultural wall is to stop building it higher and higher.

[denizaksulu]

Why do we continue to argue back on forth the same issue, we obviously cannot tolerate each other so why on earth should we be forced to live together?

Speak for yourself. I don't have any problem tolerating anyone, no matter what their origin. It's prejudice, racism, rejectionism, living in the past and negativity that I don't tolerate.

The only way to get over this cultural wall is to stop building it higher and higher.

Nice one.

[CyprusNewsReport]

Why do we continue to argue back on forth the same issue, we obviously cannot tolerate each other so why on earth should we be forced to live together?

Speak for yourself. I don't have any problem tolerating anyone, no matter what their origin. It's prejudice, racism, rejectionism, living in the past and negativity that I don't tolerate.

The only way to get over this cultural wall is to stop building it higher and higher.

Nice one.

thanks!

[CyprusNewsReport]

I like a nice civilised discussion

Me too, we get a lot of those at CF it's the height, pinnacle, oracle of civilised debate and cultured discussion LOL

[insan]

Why do we continue to argue back on forth the same issue, we obviously cannot tolerate each other so why on earth should we be forced to live together?

Speak for yourself. I don't have any problem tolerating anyone, no matter what their origin. It's prejudice, racism, rejectionism, living in the past and negativity that I don't tolerate.

The only way to get over this cultural wall is to stop building it higher and higher.

Nice one.

Yes... but why talking about past is always considered by CNR as living in the past?

It seems she does not like history much...

[CyprusNewsReport]

Why do we continue to argue back on forth the same issue, we obviously cannot tolerate each other so why on earth should we be forced to live together?

Speak for yourself. I don't have any problem tolerating anyone, no matter what their origin. It's prejudice, racism, rejectionism, living in the past and negativity that I don't tolerate.

The only way to get over this cultural wall is to stop building it higher and higher.

Nice one.

Yes... but why talking about past is always considered by CNR as living in the past?

It seems she does not like history much...

It depends on how it's approached. I love history, but I see it as...history...part of the past, something to learn from and not to drown in on a daily basis.

[insan]

Why should i go anywhere else this is my country and where i belong

I don't mind if you (and all TCs) stay, provided you hand back the property you stole.

I don't even mind if you want to live in Cyprus on your own, so long as the land you take is equal to the one you OWN.

If what you want is to stay in Cyprus on a size of land that is two or three times the land you own, then what you are really asking for is to STEAL the property of your compatriots.

This will NEVER happen - continue demanding this and you will stay isolated, unrecognised and illegal as common thieves and criminals should be (and of course well away from the EU - which goes for you and your big mama bitch THIEF).

OH great Tony thanks for not minding that my whole 6 generations have decided to live in Cyprus .
Oh yeah there are couple of acres that are on the greek side in Lourougina that was from my forfathers . it just happened that the border crosses over on my inherited land so basically my land falls on both sides. i was hopeing that the turks took a little more land during 1974 . I am talking about my own land by the way.
I need advice here as some call it occupation however what do you term my situation as i was happy that the turks came to save us and if its termed as occupation how have they occupied my land.
I think that termonology is political or isolated to every individual experiences.

Did you actually read what I wrote? I agree that TCs like you have as much a right as GCs to be here. The debate is about land/ property.

TCs can choose one of two things, regardless of the "name" of the solution or the governance "model" is. They:

1. EITHER live WITH GCs, everyone keeps their own property everywhere in Cyprus - so you have ALL of your Lurigina land and I have all of my land in Famagusta (this I believe is the preference of most GCs);

2. OR, they choose to live separately, in an ethnically cleansed area where nearly all properties will be owned by TCs. I do not have a major problem if they choose this, so long as the land/ property issue is solved ONLY by exchange with identical properties and not compensation (as only GCs can pay this).

In other words:
- I don't really care about the type of solution
- I am happy for TCs to stay in Cy
- I am happy to accommodate their "preference" to live "on their own" in a single area broadly equal to the land they collectively own
- There will never be a solution if TCs continue to want the above in an area which 2-3 times the size of the land they own, at the expense of GCs who in such a case will just lose their land.

I fully agree with Tony except the red highlighted part because of the disputed claims on land ownership by two communities...

[CyprusNewsReport]

Why do we continue to argue back on forth the same issue, we obviously cannot tolerate each other so why on earth should we be forced to live together?

Speak for yourself. I don't have any problem tolerating anyone, no matter what their origin. It's prejudice, racism, rejectionism, living in the past and negativity that I don't tolerate.

The only way to get over this cultural wall is to stop building it higher and higher.

Nice one.

Yes... but why talking about past is always considered by CNR as living in the past?

It seems she does not like history much...

It depends on how it's approached. I love history, but I see it as...history...part of the past, something to learn from and not to drown in on a daily basis.

Sometimes history on this island feels like quicksand, sucking you in and forcing you to struggle for your existence. It seems to have a physical presence of its own - but that's a figment of our imagination. The past is irretrievably gone, it cannot be changed or altered in one single way. The only piece of time we truly have is this moment now. And we constantly screw it up by being bitter, angry, scoring points and using the past to poison the present.

So that's why I am against living in the past in this way. But of course I respect our history, please don't think that I am dismissing it in a bad way.

[insan]

Why do we continue to argue back on forth the same issue, we obviously cannot tolerate each other so why on earth should we be forced to live together?

Speak for yourself. I don't have any problem tolerating anyone, no matter what their origin. It's prejudice, racism, rejectionism, living in the past and negativity that I don't tolerate.

The only way to get over this cultural wall is to stop building it higher and higher.

Nice one.

Yes... but why talking about past is always considered by CNR as living in the past?

It seems she does not like history much...

It depends on how it's approached. I love history, but I see it as...history...part of the past, something to learn from and not to drown in on a daily basis.

I think everyone is trying to learn from the history by sometimes "drowning in" on a daily basis depending on how fierce the debate is and stimulation they feel to reply to other's views and claims regarding the issue...