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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Kikapu » Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:41 am

denizaksulu wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:The Russians have been bombing the GCs lately can no one get on with these people? I asked where these people live because they think that if gcs and tcs can live abroad in harmony they can do the same in Cyprus.


Yes, I believe they can - we can. Of course, we must address the injustices done to both sides, it's not a matter of ignoring them and pretending they didn't happen. But maybe it's a matter of putting them behind us as much as we can and not letting the past poison the present and future.

If giant European countries managed to do it (Germany, England, France), then surely our small communities can manage it - with the right attitude.


Surely we cannot ignore the past we must learn from it and ensure we do not make the same mistakes in the future. Thats why we ask for what we do in a solution to guarantee we do not return to square one.



Solomon's Justice?


This has already been split.


.....and ending up with what exactly? Which end did you get? Top or bottom?


Neither.!!
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:53 am

North.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:17 pm

not yet you haven't. Dont jump the gun. :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Nov 07, 2010 6:05 pm

denizaksulu wrote:not yet you haven't. Dont jump the gun. :lol:


Why most countries in the world have guns even the GCs.
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Postby CyprusNewsReport » Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:56 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
CyprusNewsReport wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The Russians have been bombing the GCs lately can no one get on with these people? I asked where these people live because they think that if gcs and tcs can live abroad in harmony they can do the same in Cyprus.


Yes, I believe they can - we can. Of course, we must address the injustices done to both sides, it's not a matter of ignoring them and pretending they didn't happen. But maybe it's a matter of putting them behind us as much as we can and not letting the past poison the present and future.

If giant European countries managed to do it (Germany, England, France), then surely our small communities can manage it - with the right attitude.


Surely we cannot ignore the past we must learn from it and ensure we do not make the same mistakes in the future. Thats why we ask for what we do in a solution to guarantee we do not return to square one.



Solomon's Justice?


This has already been split.


.....and ending up with what exactly? Which end did you get? Top or bottom?


Learning from the past is the key to a better future; what are our lessons here? That everyone's human rights have to be respected, there is just no way around this. This is the way forward to an equitable future. That two wrongs don't make a right is another lesson. That intercommunal bitterness, envy, and spite result in division; that allowing other countries to manipulate us sows the seed of division. We have to get smart here! We are our own best protection if we decide that as Cypriots we have a common interest in friendship and helping each other.
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Postby Gasman » Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:51 pm

You don't have to 'forget' the past. You should understand it and learn from it, not 'live in it'. If you live in the past, it will hold you prisoner and you will allow the past to ruin your future.

Good advice - but may be a bit late for some on here.
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:00 pm

Gasman wrote:You don't have to 'forget' the past. You should understand it and learn from it, not 'live in it'. If you live in the past, it will hold you prisoner and you will allow the past to ruin your future.

Good advice - but may be a bit late for some on here.


You seem to understand VP very well.! :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:17 pm

İf your past shapes your future then do you trust people who turned a blind eye to your suffering and wanted to sign your death warrant?
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Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:18 am

...i suppose you are talking about turcophone citizens who did not fight against the brutal Greek coupists. no, you stayed home like your fellow grecophones, while the "Greeks" fled, and the "Turks" took an opportunity to plunder. Many from my family remain missing, because they stayed, because they were like their village neighbours Cypriots, close to the land that was their families', tended over hundreds of years in a manner that was socialised as cooperators. they were murdered for this land. now i say like then, i choose to love and be loving, for those who were ultimately used, the blind hatred that is not a Greek or a Turk, but a man who neither have much pride in, cannot win if there remains this Grace.

...i remember those heady days, with their confusion. quickly did they change; to stay the same, and moreso.

there is the riddle, dear vp.

...but what do i know, coming from a "mixed" village.

woof woof!
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:54 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...i suppose you are talking about turcophone citizens who did not fight against the brutal Greek coupists. no, you stayed home like your fellow grecophones, while the "Greeks" fled, and the "Turks" took an opportunity to plunder. Many from my family remain missing, because they stayed, because they were like their village neighbours Cypriots, close to the land that was their families', tended over hundreds of years in a manner that was socialised as cooperators. they were murdered for this land. now i say like then, i choose to love and be loving, for those who were ultimately used, the blind hatred that is not a Greek or a Turk, but a man who neither have much pride in, cannot win if there remains this Grace.

...i remember those heady days, with their confusion. quickly did they change; to stay the same, and moreso.

there is the riddle, dear vp.

...but what do i know, coming from a "mixed" village.

woof woof!


Sorry for your losses RW. You are a good man. The best come from mixed villages.
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