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Re: The SWISS CANTONAL System?

Postby Get Real! » Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:20 am

MrH wrote:Please read the following link as the EU is seriously assessing the setup, conditions and possible solution scenario found in the Swiss Model for the Island Of Cyprus. What do you all think?

That you're a liar and a fool!

The EU is not in a position to dictate such matters as the only body authorized to modify Cyprus is the RoC!

Not that it will ever happen! :lol:
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Postby MrH » Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:46 am

Kurupetos,
You mean like the Genocide Files in Harry Scott Gibbon's Book! Like how the genocide of hundreds of Turkish Cypriots between 1963-1974! You clumsy boy, your GCs were KILLED by your own EOKA B soldiers from Greece, which is why you were originally very happy when Turkey intevened in 1974. AND, Which is why we need seperate autonous areas, Also, the TRNC has been a Functioning Unopposed state since 1983, and we haven't seen not even one U-boat on our shores against us. You GCs did wore to us than we did to you.

Anyhow, doesn't your theory of so called ethnic cleansing justify NOT WANTING to like with any Turk? Please make somme sense at least. Thanks for the Swiss Formula of Seperate Parliament as it's a must, and that's what the UN and EU have now signed up to......like it or not!
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Postby MrH » Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:52 am

Stick with the subject you idiot. All nations have had there share of bloody history, from America with the Indians, Germany's World War II, how Scotland seperated from English Rule the French and etc, etc. But the most recent was the Blood killings of the British people in Cyprus prior to its forced 1960 constitution.
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Postby boomerang » Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:53 am

MrH wrote:Kurupetos,
You mean like the Genocide Files in Harry Scott Gibbon's Book! Like how the genocide of hundreds of Turkish Cypriots between 1963-1974! You clumsy boy, your GCs were KILLED by your own EOKA B soldiers from Greece, which is why you were originally very happy when Turkey intevened in 1974. AND, Which is why we need seperate autonous areas, Also, the TRNC has been a Functioning Unopposed state since 1983, and we haven't seen not even one U-boat on our shores against us. You GCs did wore to us than we did to you.

Anyhow, doesn't your theory of so called ethnic cleansing justify NOT WANTING to like with any Turk? Please make somme sense at least. Thanks for the Swiss Formula of Seperate Parliament as it's a must, and that's what the UN and EU have now signed up to......like it or not!


you mean making sense like you did with your lisbon treaty predictions?...just wondering my friend...
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Postby MrH » Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:45 am

The Lisbon Treaty Predictions are not over yet Boomerang!! Haven't you heard? Please, patience......what for what's to come!
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Postby boomerang » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:47 am

MrH wrote:The Lisbon Treaty Predictions are not over yet Boomerang!! Haven't you heard? Please, patience......what for what's to come!


i heard the legal arm of the eu said no way jose...
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Postby boomerang » Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:35 pm

hey h...


EP COMMITTEE – DIRECT TRADE

The European Parliament Committee on Legal Affairs approved on Monday with 18 votes in favour, five against and one abstention the opinion of the Council Legal Service, that the legal basis of the regulation on direct trade between the EU and Cyprus Turkish occupied areas is wrong and that the proper legal basis is Article 1(2) of Protocol No 10 on Cyprus to the Treaty of Accession of April 2003 .

The Committee rejected by majority the postponement of the relevant discussion and endorsed the opinion of the Council Legal Service.

The decision of the Committee will be evaluated during the Conference of Presidents of the European Parliament, in view of the political decisions to be taken on the regulation.

Cyprus has been divided since 1974 when Turkish troops invaded the island.

The Republic of Cyprus joined the EU on May 1, 2004.


the eu is build on legalities and NOT illegalities...
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Postby boomerang » Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:36 pm

hey h...

MEPs reject legal treatment of the northern part of Cyprus as a third country
External/international trade − 19-10-2010 - 20:25
Committee: Legal Affairs

EU trade with the northern part of Cyprus should be governed directly by EU single market and customs union rules, and not by the EU's rules for international trade. Possible trade with the northern part of Cyprus based on article 207 of the Lisbon Treaty on international trade would wrongly imply that it is not part of the EU, said the Legal Affairs Committee on Monday.

The EU has always considered Cyprus to have joined the EU as a whole, but upon accession by Cyprus in 2004, EU legislation was "temporarily suspended" in the areas not under the effective control of the government of the Republic of Cyprus.

Cyprus's north-south divide is not an EU external border

The Legal Affairs Committee shared the opinion of the Parliament's legal service that the territory of Cyprus is fully part of EU customs territory. MEPs reiterated that the Union should not seek to regulate its internal arrangements for the movement of goods among Member States on the basis of the common commercial policy, as proposed in 2004 by the Commission, because this would "imply that de facto the line separating the territory of Cyprus would be tantamount to an external border of the Union".

"We need to keep things simple. It is difficult to draft a regulation on the basis of external action and trade policy because Cyprus as a whole is already a member of the EU", commented rapporteur Kurt Lechner (EPP, DE), adding "let's see the case as it is and not use other examples which do not fit". MEPs approved with 18 votes in favour, 5 against and one abstention the proposal of the rapporteur to adopt Protocol 10 of the Accession Treaty of Cyprus to the EU as the correct legal basis of the regulation..

Ending the "temporary suspension"

Lifting the temporary suspension of the EU legislation would require a new proposal, within a new legal framework (Article 1 (2) of Protocol n° 10), which says that it is for the Council to decide - on the basis of a proposal by the European Commission, on the withdrawal of the suspension of the internal market and customs rules. The Council will need to act unanimously.

Next steps

The Legal Affairs Committee will send its conclusions to the Conference of Presidents, which had asked it for its opinion.


and this will be the final nail on coffin...
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Postby SKI-preo » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:33 am

I'm in.

BUT:

Where in the Swiss cantonal system is there mass rape,napalm attacks and ethnic cleansing of entire towns and villages of one ethnic group whose houses and property is then given to settlers from another country altogether?
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Postby Tony-4497 » Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:59 am

The problem is not the "governance model" or "name" of a solution.. besides, both sides claim to have agreed on this (even though the proposal is probably unacceptable to the GC public)

The problem is about property and territory.. pure traditional good old theft thereof.. this can NEVER be resolved by compensation, as the only people who can PAY this is GCs.. it can ONLY be solved by restitution or exchange with identical property.. Are Turks willing to resolve this issue on this basis? If Yes, there will be a solution, if No, there will not.
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