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[Viewpoint]

The official GC policy of "Crush the TCs to an insignificant minority" is alive and well...

You mean the unofficial Turkish policy of "crush the TCs to an insignificant minority", surely?

Hermes do you know we are Turkish in origin? you remarks mean nothing cause we are proud of our roots and never deny them so you are barking up the wrong tree.

[paliometoxo]

so if your turkish origin why are you here and not in turkey?

[Viewpoint]

so if your turkish origin why are you here and not in turkey?

400 years have passed so I have just as much right as you to be here.

[paliometoxo]

so if your turkish origin why are you here and not in turkey?

400 years have passed so I have just as much right as you to be here.

i dont dis agree with you but you say your turkish and you ignore your cypriotness it just sounds like to me you would be happier in turkey instead of causing trouble in our island trying to create a second state, with all the turkish army there to protect you

[Viewpoint]

so if your turkish origin why are you here and not in turkey?

400 years have passed so I have just as much right as you to be here.

i dont dis agree with you but you say your turkish and you ignore your cypriotness it just sounds like to me you would be happier in turkey instead of causing trouble in our island trying to create a second state, with all the turkish army there to protect you

Do you not love your Greek roots? "Cypriotness" is what should bind us but this has never developed we had the opportunity in the 1960 but we all know what happened there, now GCs are using it like its a done deal and if you do not agree with them you are some sort of foreigner, well Palio to most TCs this we are all Cypriots mentality is just to little to late and appears very insincere, a means to an end to dupe Tcs into thinking that the GCs have changed and do want them to unite but most can see right through this feeble attempt of trickery and domination.

[georgios100]

Judging from the amount of settlers moving into the north, the now minority TCs are soon to be totally overrun, sidelined and, in the end, seize to exist thanks to mainland Turks, Anatolians and other scum arriving by the boat loads... extinction is imminent!

Ironically, the TCs always accused the GCs of trying to drive them out of Cyprus or exterminate them. Well, guess what? The enemy is within! Your mama, Turkey, is the culprit... gradually erasing you off the map.

My advise to the TC community... run & take cover under the RoC ombrella for protection and, most of all, survival of your people - the only option you have.

Why its like saying the French should assimilate with the English but in our case if you need reminding we have Turkish origins, in 10 years time you will be begging for partition as the population in the north hits 1 million.

... and, in 10 years, how many Turkish Cypriots will be there, if any?

TC's will survive just like the GC's have over the thousands of years of existence on this beautiful island of ours. How did the GC's survive?...........simple really........add a few drops of Arab blood, some English, a tad of French(Lusignan, and oh yes Italian (Venetian brand), before then the Egytians, Assyrians not to forget the 'Greek' element too. Teach them Greek and voila'/hey presto we have the Greek Cypriots/Cypriots. I might not be too keen on the new mixture, but hey, they will be the new generation of Turkish Cypriots.

OMG.What am I saying..........

You are spot on,yegen...

And this new generation of Turkish Cypriots will outnumber the old generation of Greek Cypriots within 10 years...We could then have a unitary state solution based solely on democratic principles,majority rule,and EU requirements...

I am disappointed from you Bir. You, a genuine Turkish Cypriot, prefer to accept the demographic annihilation of your community, to be replaced with foreigners and scum... succumbing to the imminent extinction... a poor position to take, indeed. The new generation of Turkish Cypriots you refer above is actually just mainland Turks... not TCs.

I was expecting a more "patriotic stance" from you, just like the GC side, striving to maintain the true Cypriot status as we know it.

Apparently, you are "sold" to the lowest bidder (Turkey) mainly due to poor political leadership from your side. The occupying Turkish troops are not in place to protect you but to cleanse you and in the end the TCs will disappear from the face of Cyprus. A sad story really...

I am disappointed too,Georgio...Disappointed that the majority of my GC compatriots prefer to gift 37% of Cyprus on a plate to Turkey,instead of sharing power with their TC compatriots...You are pointing the finger in the wrong direction... Turn towards those who are making a habit of wanting to gift Cyprus to foreigners (Remember ENOSIS???)And by the way,mainland Turks are not scum...They are just different...It is not their fault that Cypriots found it impossible to live together under the only agreement they have managed to sign in 1959...I have lost my ancestral village,my childhood,and my country because of that...What do you expect me to say,"Yeah the Offical GC state embargoes and international isolation process has worked well,the settlers now outnumber the real TCs,so lets go back to 1963 and start again"???If the offer was to get back to 1960 I would be supporting it...But the offer is "lets sweep everything under the carpet,get back to the idea of majority GC rule,and hope for the best,because now we are in a democratic club"...It wont work,Georgio...The TC community is far more traumatised than the GC community by the past events...And nothing has been done to help either community get over it...There is no trust,no understanding,and no empathy between us...The official GC policy of "Crush the TCs to an insignificant minority" is alive and well...These days it is masquarading as a stick (Embargoes and political isolation) and a carrot (Deomcracy a la EU)...The TCs will not buy it...The lesser of the two evils and all that...I am sure you will understand...

Thanks for the response Bir.

One thing I noticed is, you always go back to history and base your opinions as such. In a few words, backward answers would not get us anywhere my friend. Moving forward is required now.

The current situation is unacceptable both to me and you. I lost my home & property just as you did. We are both losers, if that makes you feel any better.

As to which community suffered the most, I don't think it.s wise to get into, does not help at this point. The missing trust is still there but not as much as it was 20-30 years ago.

The settler situation is a real problem for both sides. Needless to say, I consider you a genuine Cypriot, just as I am. The demographic change in the north is ongoing and intensifying. For that, your side is totally responsible since the RoC has no control over the occupied areas.

Really, I don't understand the TC leadership in allowing or even encouraging this type of illegal immigration to continue. To what is it based on? The TC community is shooting it self on the foot... choosing to became a minority in their own homeland. What are you gaining from this?

Surely, as the years go by, your TC roots are weakening to a point where the final uprooting is unavoidable and, therefor, extinction is mathematically a reality.

Please explain how or why does the settler surge help your cause.

[B25]

Georgios, the settler importation is a blackmail technique. either do as we say or we flood you with anatolians peasants. Birk has threatened us enough times about the millionth settler, what more is there.

It is a Turkey idea to turkify the island so no going back. Any agreement on our part for however many %age means lost for ever.

Is that what the GCs want to permanently sign away Cyprus to Turkey??? Ot officially bring Turkey to its door step??? I have this black demon over our heads for ever??? F no.

So think carefully about any areements to %ages.

[BirKibrisli]

Georgios wrote:

Please explain how or why does the settler surge help your cause.

The settler situation does not help my cause,Georgio...It helps the fanatical GC cause which is to reduce the TC community to a politically insignificant minority in their own country...This has been the cause of ENOSIS -worshippers since 1950s...Makarios started the ball rolling,in the name of Hellenising Cyprus,and those who followed him simply continued their noble (!) struggle..Well,congratulations,they have finally managed to do it...But it is a pyrric victory...All they managed is to gift 37 % of Cyprus to Turkey,and bring nearly one million Turkish settlers (aka Cypriot Turks) to the island...Viewpoint keeps telling you,I keep telling you ,but you refuse to listen...Once more,the average TC,in and out of trnc,does not give a damn about the Turkification of the North...In fact they welcome it as a safe return home...Their home,Cyprus,is now Turkified ,and they feel safe...To understand this phenomenon we have to look back in history,with the focus on the 63-74 period...Because if we look forward today all we see is a great big void where nothing makes sense...The war is over...Cyprus is pemanently divided between Turkey and the GCs...The TC community must now transform themselves into Cyprus Turks,and bloody fools like myself must resign themselves to a lifetime in exile...Well done all!!!

[Get Real!]

Please explain how or why does the settler surge help your cause.

It doesn't, but they are so desperate at their demise that they are even starting to hope that the island blows up to smithereens!

[Viewpoint]

B25 its reality without a solution the trend of Turks coming to north Cyprus will continue and they are no longer just workers qualified professionals are also moving from tbe hussle and bussle of big cities to the TRNC for a quieter life. In 5 to 10 years this figure will easily reach 1 million of mixed marriages children born here etc will you still want what you are demanding today if we become the majority. The Turks hAve already started moving south dontbeto suprised if your daughters or sons bring them home to introduce them toyou as your future son or daughtetinlaw. Thats where thibgs are headed and if you cant see it and live in denial you will the ones kicking yourswlves for not compromisong with TCs to solve the problem when you had that chance.