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[MARTHA]

HAVE GOOD EVENING ALL

[MARTHA]

TAKE CARE

[Me Ed]

Go to the Falklands and ask the people that live there what they are then come back to me . You may then learn something .You can take a trip to Goa in India and ask them also. There are endless places Oh sorry forgot Australia and oh yeah forgot America .Lets ask them their origin shall we

A brainwashed TC if I ever heard one ...

[MARTHA]

Martha,
After you hit the quote button you need to go to the bottom of that box and type your response before posting...It is not difficult..I was technically challenged like you seem to be,but managed to get the hang of it...You can do it,mate...Just try it now...Respond to me...

Hi are you ok

[MARTHA]

Martha,
After you hit the quote button you need to go to the bottom of that box and type your response before posting...It is not difficult..I was technically challenged like you seem to be,but managed to get the hang of it...You can do it,mate...Just try it now...Respond to me...

Hi are you ok

Thanks for your help. Just to clarify things the username is my wifes and keep telling all that i am a man TC wife GC .
I think i have perhaps confused a few people .

[MARTHA]

Go to the Falklands and ask the people that live there what they are then come back to me . You may then learn something .You can take a trip to Goa in India and ask them also. There are endless places Oh sorry forgot Australia and oh yeah forgot America .Lets ask them their origin shall we

A brainwashed TC if I ever heard one ...

Why do you say i am brainwashed .

I am trying to broaden the mental block some have because the opinion that some have is if you say your turkish then you should go back to Turkey.
Well most of the Australians are of English origin should they go back to England same as the White Americans.
Falklands are full of English should they go back to england.
No one has a right to tell me what i want to cast myself . If i feel like saying i am Cypriot i will if i feel like saying i am Turkish Cypriot i wll and if i Feel like saying i am Turkish i will. I will say what ever i want depending on what ever mood i am in and that is my freedom of expression .

[MARTHA]

Martha,

After posting here for over 5 years,I have come to certain conclusions I'd like to share with you...

The notion of Cypriotism is alive and well ONLY with those who do not actually live in Cyprus...

Unless you are married to a member of the "other" community,people here are totally incapable of any human feelings like empathy,compassion,understanding or respect...

The only real solution to the Cyprus problem is to make it compulsory by law for people to marry ONLY someone from the "other" community...

Since that is NOT going to happen the only realistic solution is for the North to be an ethnically cleanesed TC state run by Turkey,and the South to be an ethnically cleased GC state run by those susbscribing to the fanatical TC/Turk hating Hellenic ideology...

All the political arguments here eventually descent into namecalling,insults,and worse with people cleary exhibiting the historical animosity,suspicion,denial,and intense hatred of the "other"...which brought us here in the first place!

Apart from that all is rather rosy here,and we get on like a house on fire...

Hi Bir,

You are giving up on Cyprus as a whole my friend.

The solution is not about race or marriages or hatred or ethnic cleansing by Turkey or others.

The settlement (as I understand it) would put an end to the fragile situation we currently see in Cyprus. Both Turkey & Greece shall be sterilized from their harmful influences on our people. Security will be guarantied for all by the EU.

I see two distinct societies emerging with RoC as a vehicle of representation. An imaginary dividing line would still be there due to language & religion reasons only. The race issue must be, and will be out of the picture.

In time, under the EU umbrella, all our differences will be resolved. The citizens of Cyprus will be European Cypriots omitting the GC/TC divisional naming.

When asked where I come from, I say I am Cypriot, period. No need to say "Greek Cypriot".

Do yo know how many times I reply in the same manner, saying that I am Cypriot? On every occasion the response I get is, "oh, so you are Greek then". Sad isnt it. Ofcourse I have to correct them.

You have the right to call yourself what ever you like .Thats your freedom mate just as long as you realise that everyone else has that right also .

Look there are divisional naming in the UK you have the welsh the scottish dont know if i have made a good example here but i am sure you will correct me if you disagree.

[MARTHA]

The official GC policy of "Crush the TCs to an insignificant minority" is alive and well...

You mean the unofficial Turkish policy of "crush the TCs to an insignificant minority", surely?

Hermes do you know we are Turkish in origin? you remarks mean nothing cause we are proud of our roots and never deny them so you are barking up the wrong tree.

I agree with you 100% and this applys to anyone really that is in touch with where they originate from its part of your identity which should not be denied however i am not speaking from a nationalistic stance . Also i am amazed at so much concern these GCs have about TCs . Their worries are very transparant and its not for our well being you can count on that you only have to look at how they have treated us in History and at present. If i was given a choice lets stick with our Motherland . You only have to look at the way they behave on this Forum to tell you that this represents the majority of GCs the way they think about TCs .They pretend they tolerate us but you can just feel the Hate they have for us .
They are good at concealing their true feelings for us you only have to read through the lines to see it clearly.
I can actually put my hand on my heart and say i do not hate greeks but at the same time i can put my hand on my hart and say GCs hate TCs .

Do you know the give away is when they say " We have no problem with the TCs its the Turks from Turkey" how can you possibly hate 70 million Turks who 99 % dont have anything to do with GCs "
Its prejudice and ignorant and racist and if you dont like the Turks from turkey then i will not accept that you like a Turk from Cyprus .

[repulsewarrior]

...i will repeat myself: there is a difference between Greeks and "Greeks", just as there is a difference between Turks and "Turks". in the same vain, "Turks" are "Greeks", just like Greeks are Turks.

MARTHA, if you are a Cypriot, you are neither a "Greek" or a "Turk", although you may be Greek or Tukish. none of this matters, unless of course you hate Greeks because a "Greek" offends you, and you allow yourself to be identified with "Turks", as though they are not just as Intolerant.

...and if you expect support from Greeks or Turks on this forum, forget it. Nothing on the other hand prevents you from expressing your will as a Cypriot. I suggest you expect the worst from (some) people if what you say has any validity. welcome again, keep writing.

[denizaksulu]

You brainless substandard excuse for a human. I agree with the chap that says your a disgrace . How dare you bring my children into this you have crossed the line .
You are so thick that you think i am a woman and thats how you speak to women and about children then you are so gutless .
I am shocked that the administrator of this forum is allowing you to carry on speaking of children in such manner .
I made it very clear from the begining that i am a man you twat if you had cared to read my previous replys . I am Turkish Cypriot and my wife Martha is Greek Cypriot.
My children are of both however i am begining to realise that perhaps i should influence the Turkish Culture and mind onto them as i have fooled myself into believing that in general greeks are of good nature but it seems that in this forum there seems to be a majority of ignorant substandard CPs with nothing but hatred.
WELL I HAVE ONE THING TO SAY TO YOU.IF YOU HATE ME I SHALL HATE YOU TWICE AS MUCH. IF YOU LOVE ME I SHALL LOVE YOU TWICE AS MUCH . IF YOU HURT ME I SHALL ANIOLATE YOU .
I shall have a lovely turkish life and i shall bring my children up of Turkish culture because they will grow up to learn to respect and have pride unlike the CPS that i have come across this Forum. My wife and her Family must be in a minority as they are proud and respectfull people with intelligence and open minded but if my children are to be exposed to Such substandard generation of people then i rather them be only exposed to Turks .

Martha

Do not jump to conclusion just because you have come accross a few GC's of the 'seemingly' extreme variety. Make up your mind from real people you meet. The forum is not the best place for this, however you should still make contributions as it would be valuable. Underneath their stern facades underly their Cypriotness which is the same whether they are Turkish speaking or Greek speaking. Our past history has caused a lot of pain and suffering for both communities. This causes some of us to post in various ways. Some of us have suffered in various ways - like losing friends or family members, some of us are politically motivated, yet we are still human. And as such some can live and forgive without forgetting and some cannot. Time is a good healer and we have high hopes of the younger generation. You and Martha are fine examples of this. Personally I am proud of you both. I know there are more like you and I hope theumber of intermarriages increases.

You being here is food for thought for many of us. Good luck mate and do not despair.

Regards

DenizA.

NB; It took me a while to learn the quote system. Once you have got the hang of it, your posts will be more interesting. Keep on trying.