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[georgios100]

but the British scum is still standing proud with every country they have touched still deep in shit, including Cyprus!

Although we are not without problems here in Canada, your statement is far from true here.
May I suggest your anti-British view-point has clouded your vision.

Rick

Welcome to the forum Rick,

Canada might be an exception to the rule. However, outside Britain, their biggest military base is in Alberta. The British Army Training Unit Suffield (BATUS) is a British Army unit located at the vast training area of Canadian Forces Base Suffield in Alberta, Canada. As if Canada cannot train it's own forces...
Link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Ar ... t_Suffield

The Brits maintain two military bases in Cyprus (relics of the colonial era). So called SBAs, were & may still be subject to removal by the RoC. The majority of the locals want them cleared off but some others don't.

Please read the history of Cyprus, go back perhaps 100 years to judge for yourself if the Brits were... nice guys to the Cypriots. I personally don't hate them but would like to see the military personnel move out of Cyprus.

[Simon]

The British Empire needs to be analysed logically and dispassionately. The British created a global empire in the age of global empires. The idea of empire was not conceived in Britain, and nor was everything the British did evil. Portugal and Spain were colonising the new world before the British did, and Britain found itself, as an island, in a position where it needed to compete with the aforementioned powers, as well as France of course.

Britain was not the only power to have a huge empire at that time. Further, to state that every country Britain touched was destroyed is a huge exaggeration. Canada, New Zealand, Australia, Thirteen Colonies (USA), Singapore, Hong Kong, Malta etc are all very prosperous nations. Yes, Britain did employ divide and rule on many nations including Cyprus, but are its acts really that much worse than that of any other comparable nation? The only difference really was that Britain was the most successful at what it did. Look at the atrocities of France in a desperate attempt to cling on to its power, especially in Africa. Look at the atrocities Turkey has committed in its own neighbourhood. It must also be remembered that the British have done some incredible things and advanced the human condition enormously over the years. From inventing penicillin, which has saved millions of lives, to helping abolish the slave trade across the world, to fighting the Nazis and stopping that terrible evil from taking permanent root in Europe, Britain has done many many great things. Britain of course stood alone against the Nazis when France fell, with the US refusing to be drawn in, and the Nazis were offering the British a peace deal, but it was refused. Hitler never wanted to go to war with Britain. Countries such as "brave" Turkey remained "neutral".

I have worked with asylum seekers, and the amount of people Britain helps, and the amount of aid it gives, is pretty amazing. So please, let's inject a bit of objectivity here. We all know Shah is a racist, don't get taken in by him.

[ZoC]

but the British scum is still standing proud with every country they have touched still deep in shit, including Cyprus!

Although we are not without problems here in Canada, your statement is far from true here.
May I suggest your anti-British view-point has clouded your vision.

Rick

Welcome to the forum Rick,

Canada might be an exception to the rule. However, outside Britain, their biggest military base is in Alberta. The British Army Training Unit Suffield (BATUS) is a British Army unit located at the vast training area of Canadian Forces Base Suffield in Alberta, Canada. As if Canada cannot train it's own forces...
Link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Ar ... t_Suffield

The Brits maintain two military bases in Cyprus (relics of the colonial era). So called SBAs, were & may still be subject to removal by the RoC. The majority of the locals want them cleared off but some others don't.

Please read the history of Cyprus, go back perhaps 100 years to judge for yourself if the Brits were... nice guys to the Cypriots. I personally don't hate them but would like to see the military personnel move out of Cyprus.

don't get me wrong, we'll smile sweetly and serve them excessive amounts of keo when they're over... we'll gladly contribute to the deterioration of their livers, and enthusiastically relieve them of their failing currency... but sorry, till brits put right the wrongs they helped create in cyprus, they can't really expect unbridled affection from cypriots... i hope they understand. and if they don't, i don't give a shit...

[Oracle]

Completely agree with your rational synopsis, Simon; apart from this bit ...

... From inventing penicillin, which has saved millions of lives ...

That should be: "discovered penicillin"

[Simon]

Completely agree with your rational synopsis, Simon; apart from this bit ...

... From inventing penicillin, which has saved millions of lives ...

That should be: "discovered penicillin"

Slip of the tongue...

Thanks for the correction.

[Get Real!]

Shut up Simon you Greek whore!

[Simon]

Shut up Simon you Greek whore!

Great comeback GR! Another fine message purveyed. I love it when you talk dirty...

[Get Real!]

Shut up Simon you Greek whore!

Great comeback GR! Another fine message purveyed. I love it when you talk dirty...

Just my way of saying hello to an old "adversary"!

[CanWoodsman]

Canada might be an exception to the rule. However, outside Britain, their biggest military base is in Alberta. The British Army Training Unit Suffield (BATUS) is a British Army unit located at the vast training area of Canadian Forces Base Suffield in Alberta, Canada. As if Canada cannot train it's own forces...
Link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Ar ... t_Suffield

If you note it is a Canadian base not a British base. The British use it for their own training (due to available space) not for training Canadian Forces. Yes some joint training does happen as we do work together as part of NATO.
Canada has a history of training and or supplying training area's to foreign military's. During WW2 for example Canada supplied the training bases & most of the instructors for the Commonwealth Air Training Plan.
Also Canada supplies a quite large area used for training NATO Air Forces.
What Canada does not lack compared to most places is large open area's.

The Brits maintain two military bases in Cyprus (relics of the colonial era). So called SBAs, were & may still be subject to removal by the RoC. The majority of the locals want them cleared off but some others don't.

I'm quite aware of this from spending 6 months in Cyprus as a UN Peacekeeper. I have been on both.

Please read the history of Cyprus, go back perhaps 100 years to judge for yourself if the Brits were... nice guys to the Cypriots. I personally don't hate them but would like to see the military personnel move out of Cyprus.

And if I was to go back much further I would find Cyprus is a place that has been occupied by many different regimes.

I'm not here to argue if the British were good to Cyprus or not as I'm sure those who live there or have strong ties to Cyprus will already have strong opinions which I'll never influence (not that my opinion really matters anyway), but when statements about Canada are made that are false I will comment.

[georgios100]

Canada might be an exception to the rule. However, outside Britain, their biggest military base is in Alberta. The British Army Training Unit Suffield (BATUS) is a British Army unit located at the vast training area of Canadian Forces Base Suffield in Alberta, Canada. As if Canada cannot train it's own forces...
Link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Ar ... t_Suffield

If you note it is a Canadian base not a British base. The British use it for their own training (due to available space) not for training Canadian Forces. Yes some joint training does happen as we do work together as part of NATO.
Canada has a history of training and or supplying training area's to foreign military's. During WW2 for example Canada supplied the training bases & most of the instructors for the Commonwealth Air Training Plan.
Also Canada supplies a quite large area used for training NATO Air Forces.
What Canada does not lack compared to most places is large open area's.

The Brits maintain two military bases in Cyprus (relics of the colonial era). So called SBAs, were & may still be subject to removal by the RoC. The majority of the locals want them cleared off but some others don't.

I'm quite aware of this from spending 6 months in Cyprus as a UN Peacekeeper. I have been on both.

Please read the history of Cyprus, go back perhaps 100 years to judge for yourself if the Brits were... nice guys to the Cypriots. I personally don't hate them but would like to see the military personnel move out of Cyprus.

And if I was to go back much further I would find Cyprus is a place that has been occupied by many different regimes.

I'm not here to argue if the British were good to Cyprus or not as I'm sure those who live there or have strong ties to Cyprus will already have strong opinions which I'll never influence (not that my opinion really matters anyway), but when statements about Canada are made that are false I will comment.

We both live in Canada but this forum is all about Cyprus.

I've seen what the Brits were doing to us while growing up in Famagusta during the turbulent years of the EOKA uprising. British soldiers would go to the extremes to contain the freedom movement including curfews, beatings, arrests, executions etc. Human rights were out the window my friend. As I lived thru those times I became a witness of the atrocities being committed against my people - I don't forget, how can I?

The SBAs are still stationed in Cyprus and occupy 3% of the land of Cyprus. Their status was agreed upon in 1960, when Cyprus finally became independent. By the year 1963, Britain decided to stop paying rent to the RoC which, today, has accumulated to over 1 billion Euros.
Clearly, Britain still practices muscle flexing on us.

The ongoing British military presence in Cyprus is an insult to the Cypriot people and the EU society.

You was a UN Peacekeeper which means you know a lot about Cyprus. Canada was a leading nation in peacekeeping those years. Unfortunately, today, Canada's role in Cyprus is diminished since we now have only one(1) Canadian Peacekeeper in Cyprus...