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Postby shahmaran » Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:28 am

Me Ed wrote:Schnauzer,

I was born and raised in the UK from Cypriot/GC parents.

As I grew up, I was fed this myth that the "english" had lower morals.

When I grew up and escaped the greek cypriot bubble (pardon the pun), that my parents had me in when I was a young child, I got to know the english very well and soon learned that there morals are no better or no worse than anyone else.

The english are amongst some of the nicest people you could ever meet and I urge you to get to know them before judging them so harshly. Miltiades is absolutely right; when disaster strikes, the english are the first to dig very deep into their pockets to help out.

I have a neice who came over from Cyprus a few weeks ago to study in University and I asked her if she has ever know any english people and she said no.

I told her the english are some of the nicest people she could ever meet, sure they like a drink, but you will find they are OK.

When I asked her mum how she was getting on, she said OK, she's met some Cypriots.

Groan :(


I think you will find that there are "nice" people in any country.

The English are definitely not "one of the nicest" as there is no reason for them to be any nicer than the next person.
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Postby Me Ed » Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:40 am

shahmaran wrote:
Me Ed wrote:Schnauzer,

I was born and raised in the UK from Cypriot/GC parents.

As I grew up, I was fed this myth that the "english" had lower morals.

When I grew up and escaped the greek cypriot bubble (pardon the pun), that my parents had me in when I was a young child, I got to know the english very well and soon learned that there morals are no better or no worse than anyone else.

The english are amongst some of the nicest people you could ever meet and I urge you to get to know them before judging them so harshly. Miltiades is absolutely right; when disaster strikes, the english are the first to dig very deep into their pockets to help out.

I have a neice who came over from Cyprus a few weeks ago to study in University and I asked her if she has ever know any english people and she said no.

I told her the english are some of the nicest people she could ever meet, sure they like a drink, but you will find they are OK.

When I asked her mum how she was getting on, she said OK, she's met some Cypriots.

Groan :(


I think you will find that there are "nice" people in any country.

The English are definitely not "one of the nicest" as there is no reason for them to be any nicer than the next person.

Sure Shamaran, and I am certain if you and I went out for a drink we would undoubtedly find that despite our differences, we would find each other "nice" people.
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Postby shahmaran » Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:45 am

Me Ed wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Me Ed wrote:Schnauzer,

I was born and raised in the UK from Cypriot/GC parents.

As I grew up, I was fed this myth that the "english" had lower morals.

When I grew up and escaped the greek cypriot bubble (pardon the pun), that my parents had me in when I was a young child, I got to know the english very well and soon learned that there morals are no better or no worse than anyone else.

The english are amongst some of the nicest people you could ever meet and I urge you to get to know them before judging them so harshly. Miltiades is absolutely right; when disaster strikes, the english are the first to dig very deep into their pockets to help out.

I have a neice who came over from Cyprus a few weeks ago to study in University and I asked her if she has ever know any english people and she said no.

I told her the english are some of the nicest people she could ever meet, sure they like a drink, but you will find they are OK.

When I asked her mum how she was getting on, she said OK, she's met some Cypriots.

Groan :(


I think you will find that there are "nice" people in any country.

The English are definitely not "one of the nicest" as there is no reason for them to be any nicer than the next person.

Sure Shamaran, and I am certain if you and I went out for a drink we would undoubtedly find that despite our differences, we would find each other "nice" people.


Everyone is "nicer" after a few pints :lol:
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Re: Of 'Morale' and 'Morality'.

Postby miltiades » Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:57 am

shahmaran wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:Having recently journeyed overseas and witnessed the devastation and deprivation visited upon the innocents of Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, I was somewhat surprised upon being informed that I would be required to undertake a new training session in the U.K. and that my stay there would be in excess of six months.

However, more surprising (and I must confess that I find it quite amusing) is the fact that the general 'Morale' of the Brits, appears to be somewhat lower (if such is the correct manner in which to measure 'Morale') than those unfortunates who have been afflicted by both natural AND unnatural events.

There are thousands upon thousands of such individuals, families and associations that have lost EVERYTHING, yet manage to maintain a certain amount of dignity despite their unenviable condition, what a striking difference to the attitude of the Brits who are now apparently under relentless pressure to extricate themselves (through stringent financial policies foisted upon them) from the mess their political leaders have guided them to.

How strange to note that almost everyone NOW seems to be of the opinion that the cowardly attacks on innocent nations were (and are) wrong and that the price in human life and suffering is far too high.

Discontent, disharmony, disillusionment and various other negative vibes now pervades almost every household in the U.K. (as far as I have thus far seen) and I personally think it is fitting that it should be so.

Meanwhile, in the areas that I recently visited abroad, the general 'Morale' is noticeably higher despite the hardships of natural disaster and the enforcement of unlawful restraint, attack, persecution and slaughter of them............... I think I can pinpoint a possible reason for such high 'Morale', they now know that they are on the winning side since all the recent talks (and bribes they are receiving) is a clear indication that the tasks the Western powers undertook, have (and are) proven (proving) to be somewhat more difficult than envisaged at the outset of their murderous campaigns against innocent and defenceless people.

As one old man said to me "Man may defeat man BUT, these fools have taken on the might of Allah"

I will present some thoughts on 'Morality' a little later, duty calls and, much as I am not enamoured at the prospect of remaining in this dismal land, I have much to do in the time I must reside here.

Happy Days....................Schnauzer. :wink:

Its no wonder that you are being sent for further training in the UK , you are a thoroughly mixed up individual who lacks the necessary expertise in dealing with the task at hand. The people that you appear to be there to help HAVE NO option but to endure whatever misfortune had been visited upon them , NO OPTION , their very own people don't give a shit about them , that is part and parcel of the culture they have , they rely exclusively on the Western world to offer the little comfort that they are able to receive. You are a very confused individual , the Western world is there first whener a calamity strikes anywhere in the world, stop criticizing those who employ you and put food on your table , in short don't be a fucking idiot all your life.


You are the confused individual Miltiades.

If people left to their own devices, there is no reason why they wouldn't prosper and enjoy life just like any other men.

Who do you think you are, God's chosen people? What makes you so special? Just because Cyprus wouldn't be anywhere without Europe.

If the West would stop screwing around with every situation that it did not understand, purely for financial gain, the world would definitely be a lot safer. They have been literally "fucking" everyone under the pretext of "help" for centuries, I can't believe you still buy that rubbish!

They have hit a brick wall with Afghanistan though, I'd like to see them get out of there and for what reason. Why are they there in the first place?!

Shah , if the third world people were left to their own devices they would starve themselves to death or die from decease. The third world has been receiving Western aid for years now but as long as their driving force is unreal and medieval they will always have to rely on handouts from the West !!
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Re: Of 'Morale' and 'Morality'.

Postby boomerang » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:01 pm

miltiades wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:Having recently journeyed overseas and witnessed the devastation and deprivation visited upon the innocents of Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, I was somewhat surprised upon being informed that I would be required to undertake a new training session in the U.K. and that my stay there would be in excess of six months.

However, more surprising (and I must confess that I find it quite amusing) is the fact that the general 'Morale' of the Brits, appears to be somewhat lower (if such is the correct manner in which to measure 'Morale') than those unfortunates who have been afflicted by both natural AND unnatural events.

There are thousands upon thousands of such individuals, families and associations that have lost EVERYTHING, yet manage to maintain a certain amount of dignity despite their unenviable condition, what a striking difference to the attitude of the Brits who are now apparently under relentless pressure to extricate themselves (through stringent financial policies foisted upon them) from the mess their political leaders have guided them to.

How strange to note that almost everyone NOW seems to be of the opinion that the cowardly attacks on innocent nations were (and are) wrong and that the price in human life and suffering is far too high.

Discontent, disharmony, disillusionment and various other negative vibes now pervades almost every household in the U.K. (as far as I have thus far seen) and I personally think it is fitting that it should be so.

Meanwhile, in the areas that I recently visited abroad, the general 'Morale' is noticeably higher despite the hardships of natural disaster and the enforcement of unlawful restraint, attack, persecution and slaughter of them............... I think I can pinpoint a possible reason for such high 'Morale', they now know that they are on the winning side since all the recent talks (and bribes they are receiving) is a clear indication that the tasks the Western powers undertook, have (and are) proven (proving) to be somewhat more difficult than envisaged at the outset of their murderous campaigns against innocent and defenceless people.

As one old man said to me "Man may defeat man BUT, these fools have taken on the might of Allah"

I will present some thoughts on 'Morality' a little later, duty calls and, much as I am not enamoured at the prospect of remaining in this dismal land, I have much to do in the time I must reside here.

Happy Days....................Schnauzer. :wink:

Its no wonder that you are being sent for further training in the UK , you are a thoroughly mixed up individual who lacks the necessary expertise in dealing with the task at hand. The people that you appear to be there to help HAVE NO option but to endure whatever misfortune had been visited upon them , NO OPTION , their very own people don't give a shit about them , that is part and parcel of the culture they have , they rely exclusively on the Western world to offer the little comfort that they are able to receive. You are a very confused individual , the Western world is there first whener a calamity strikes anywhere in the world, stop criticizing those who employ you and put food on your table , in short don't be a fucking idiot all your life.


You are the confused individual Miltiades.

If people left to their own devices, there is no reason why they wouldn't prosper and enjoy life just like any other men.

Who do you think you are, God's chosen people? What makes you so special? Just because Cyprus wouldn't be anywhere without Europe.

If the West would stop screwing around with every situation that it did not understand, purely for financial gain, the world would definitely be a lot safer. They have been literally "fucking" everyone under the pretext of "help" for centuries, I can't believe you still buy that rubbish!

They have hit a brick wall with Afghanistan though, I'd like to see them get out of there and for what reason. Why are they there in the first place?!

Shah , if the third world people were left to their own devices they would starve themselves to death or die from decease. The third world has been receiving Western aid for years now but as long as their driving force is unreal and medieval they will always have to rely on handouts from the West !!

the western aid you talk about it's actually called exploitation milti...
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Postby Schnauzer » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:01 pm

Me Ed wrote:Schnauzer,

I was born and raised in the UK from Cypriot/GC parents.

As I grew up, I was fed this myth that the "english" had lower morals.

When I grew up and escaped the greek cypriot bubble (pardon the pun), that my parents had me in when I was a young child, I got to know the english very well and soon learned that there morals are no better or no worse than anyone else.

The english are amongst some of the nicest people you could ever meet and I urge you to get to know them before judging them so harshly. Miltiades is absolutely right; when disaster strikes, the english are the first to dig very deep into their pockets to help out.

I have a neice who came over from Cyprus a few weeks ago to study in University and I asked her if she has ever know any english people and she said no.

I told her the english are some of the nicest people she could ever meet, sure they like a drink, but you will find they are OK.

When I asked her mum how she was getting on, she said OK, she's met some Cypriots.

Groan :(


Having travelled extensively and not wishing to generalise on the 'Moral Conduct' of the populations ANY nation, I feel that I can quite safely indicate that the Western cultures display a cavalier disregard for civilised conduct which serves to elevate the behaviour of other nations considerably.

The U.S.A. is (in my humble opinion) probably THE most decadent society on the face of the earth and I make no apology for stating such an opinion, the moral standards exhibited throughout that nation are a disgrace to humanity, the influence they have had (and are in the process of having) on other nations, can only result in the destruction of the moral fabric of ANY nation that either emulates their society OR is forced to adopt it's standards.

Obviously there are decent and respectable folk everywhere, the pity IS, that they are gradually being cajoled (or forced) into accepting codes of conduct which will ultimately drag them into the same quagmire of filth occupied by the said nation.

Unfortunately, the signs of degredation have rapidly appeared in the U.K. and throughout Europe, the Eastern cultures are now under severe threat, as are the highly (and enviably in my opinion) cultures of many African societies similarly under constant threat.

Let us now join together in a 'Bleating' of "What about Zimbabwe, Kenya and a multitude of other areas of the African continent" whose only fault seems to be that they are vigorously resisting the decadent influences of the 'White Man' who apparently have much to teach. :roll: :wink:
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Re: Of 'Morale' and 'Morality'.

Postby shahmaran » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:38 pm

boomerang wrote:
miltiades wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:Having recently journeyed overseas and witnessed the devastation and deprivation visited upon the innocents of Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, I was somewhat surprised upon being informed that I would be required to undertake a new training session in the U.K. and that my stay there would be in excess of six months.

However, more surprising (and I must confess that I find it quite amusing) is the fact that the general 'Morale' of the Brits, appears to be somewhat lower (if such is the correct manner in which to measure 'Morale') than those unfortunates who have been afflicted by both natural AND unnatural events.

There are thousands upon thousands of such individuals, families and associations that have lost EVERYTHING, yet manage to maintain a certain amount of dignity despite their unenviable condition, what a striking difference to the attitude of the Brits who are now apparently under relentless pressure to extricate themselves (through stringent financial policies foisted upon them) from the mess their political leaders have guided them to.

How strange to note that almost everyone NOW seems to be of the opinion that the cowardly attacks on innocent nations were (and are) wrong and that the price in human life and suffering is far too high.

Discontent, disharmony, disillusionment and various other negative vibes now pervades almost every household in the U.K. (as far as I have thus far seen) and I personally think it is fitting that it should be so.

Meanwhile, in the areas that I recently visited abroad, the general 'Morale' is noticeably higher despite the hardships of natural disaster and the enforcement of unlawful restraint, attack, persecution and slaughter of them............... I think I can pinpoint a possible reason for such high 'Morale', they now know that they are on the winning side since all the recent talks (and bribes they are receiving) is a clear indication that the tasks the Western powers undertook, have (and are) proven (proving) to be somewhat more difficult than envisaged at the outset of their murderous campaigns against innocent and defenceless people.

As one old man said to me "Man may defeat man BUT, these fools have taken on the might of Allah"

I will present some thoughts on 'Morality' a little later, duty calls and, much as I am not enamoured at the prospect of remaining in this dismal land, I have much to do in the time I must reside here.

Happy Days....................Schnauzer. :wink:

Its no wonder that you are being sent for further training in the UK , you are a thoroughly mixed up individual who lacks the necessary expertise in dealing with the task at hand. The people that you appear to be there to help HAVE NO option but to endure whatever misfortune had been visited upon them , NO OPTION , their very own people don't give a shit about them , that is part and parcel of the culture they have , they rely exclusively on the Western world to offer the little comfort that they are able to receive. You are a very confused individual , the Western world is there first whener a calamity strikes anywhere in the world, stop criticizing those who employ you and put food on your table , in short don't be a fucking idiot all your life.


You are the confused individual Miltiades.

If people left to their own devices, there is no reason why they wouldn't prosper and enjoy life just like any other men.

Who do you think you are, God's chosen people? What makes you so special? Just because Cyprus wouldn't be anywhere without Europe.

If the West would stop screwing around with every situation that it did not understand, purely for financial gain, the world would definitely be a lot safer. They have been literally "fucking" everyone under the pretext of "help" for centuries, I can't believe you still buy that rubbish!

They have hit a brick wall with Afghanistan though, I'd like to see them get out of there and for what reason. Why are they there in the first place?!

Shah , if the third world people were left to their own devices they would starve themselves to death or die from decease. The third world has been receiving Western aid for years now but as long as their driving force is unreal and medieval they will always have to rely on handouts from the West !!

the western aid you talk about it's actually called exploitation milti...


Milti chooses to ignore that small detail :lol:

I mean if he can believe that the US really went to Iraq to "help" them, then why won't he believe that the Ottomans also came here to "help" ? :lol:
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Re: Of 'Morale' and 'Morality'.

Postby denizaksulu » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:40 pm

shahmaran wrote:
boomerang wrote:
miltiades wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:Having recently journeyed overseas and witnessed the devastation and deprivation visited upon the innocents of Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, I was somewhat surprised upon being informed that I would be required to undertake a new training session in the U.K. and that my stay there would be in excess of six months.

However, more surprising (and I must confess that I find it quite amusing) is the fact that the general 'Morale' of the Brits, appears to be somewhat lower (if such is the correct manner in which to measure 'Morale') than those unfortunates who have been afflicted by both natural AND unnatural events.

There are thousands upon thousands of such individuals, families and associations that have lost EVERYTHING, yet manage to maintain a certain amount of dignity despite their unenviable condition, what a striking difference to the attitude of the Brits who are now apparently under relentless pressure to extricate themselves (through stringent financial policies foisted upon them) from the mess their political leaders have guided them to.

How strange to note that almost everyone NOW seems to be of the opinion that the cowardly attacks on innocent nations were (and are) wrong and that the price in human life and suffering is far too high.

Discontent, disharmony, disillusionment and various other negative vibes now pervades almost every household in the U.K. (as far as I have thus far seen) and I personally think it is fitting that it should be so.

Meanwhile, in the areas that I recently visited abroad, the general 'Morale' is noticeably higher despite the hardships of natural disaster and the enforcement of unlawful restraint, attack, persecution and slaughter of them............... I think I can pinpoint a possible reason for such high 'Morale', they now know that they are on the winning side since all the recent talks (and bribes they are receiving) is a clear indication that the tasks the Western powers undertook, have (and are) proven (proving) to be somewhat more difficult than envisaged at the outset of their murderous campaigns against innocent and defenceless people.

As one old man said to me "Man may defeat man BUT, these fools have taken on the might of Allah"

I will present some thoughts on 'Morality' a little later, duty calls and, much as I am not enamoured at the prospect of remaining in this dismal land, I have much to do in the time I must reside here.

Happy Days....................Schnauzer. :wink:

Its no wonder that you are being sent for further training in the UK , you are a thoroughly mixed up individual who lacks the necessary expertise in dealing with the task at hand. The people that you appear to be there to help HAVE NO option but to endure whatever misfortune had been visited upon them , NO OPTION , their very own people don't give a shit about them , that is part and parcel of the culture they have , they rely exclusively on the Western world to offer the little comfort that they are able to receive. You are a very confused individual , the Western world is there first whener a calamity strikes anywhere in the world, stop criticizing those who employ you and put food on your table , in short don't be a fucking idiot all your life.


You are the confused individual Miltiades.

If people left to their own devices, there is no reason why they wouldn't prosper and enjoy life just like any other men.

Who do you think you are, God's chosen people? What makes you so special? Just because Cyprus wouldn't be anywhere without Europe.

If the West would stop screwing around with every situation that it did not understand, purely for financial gain, the world would definitely be a lot safer. They have been literally "fucking" everyone under the pretext of "help" for centuries, I can't believe you still buy that rubbish!

They have hit a brick wall with Afghanistan though, I'd like to see them get out of there and for what reason. Why are they there in the first place?!

Shah , if the third world people were left to their own devices they would starve themselves to death or die from decease. The third world has been receiving Western aid for years now but as long as their driving force is unreal and medieval they will always have to rely on handouts from the West !!

the western aid you talk about it's actually called exploitation milti...


Milti chooses to ignore that small detail :lol:

I mean if he can believe that the US really went to Iraq to "help" them, then why won't he believe that the Ottomans also came here to "help" ? :lol:



OMG................I am outa here................ :lol:
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Postby revolver » Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:03 pm

"Miltiades is absolutely right; when disaster strikes, the english are the first to dig very deep into their pockets to help out"

Are we talking about the same english entity or it differs from country to country?
The same entity that I am winding up by saying 'you have fucking scorpions in your pockets' everyday?
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Postby Me Ed » Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:43 pm

Schnauzer wrote:
Me Ed wrote:Schnauzer,

I was born and raised in the UK from Cypriot/GC parents.

As I grew up, I was fed this myth that the "english" had lower morals.

When I grew up and escaped the greek cypriot bubble (pardon the pun), that my parents had me in when I was a young child, I got to know the english very well and soon learned that there morals are no better or no worse than anyone else.

The english are amongst some of the nicest people you could ever meet and I urge you to get to know them before judging them so harshly. Miltiades is absolutely right; when disaster strikes, the english are the first to dig very deep into their pockets to help out.

I have a neice who came over from Cyprus a few weeks ago to study in University and I asked her if she has ever know any english people and she said no.

I told her the english are some of the nicest people she could ever meet, sure they like a drink, but you will find they are OK.

When I asked her mum how she was getting on, she said OK, she's met some Cypriots.

Groan :(


Having travelled extensively and not wishing to generalise on the 'Moral Conduct' of the populations ANY nation, I feel that I can quite safely indicate that the Western cultures display a cavalier disregard for civilised conduct which serves to elevate the behaviour of other nations considerably.

The U.S.A. is (in my humble opinion) probably THE most decadent society on the face of the earth and I make no apology for stating such an opinion, the moral standards exhibited throughout that nation are a disgrace to humanity, the influence they have had (and are in the process of having) on other nations, can only result in the destruction of the moral fabric of ANY nation that either emulates their society OR is forced to adopt it's standards.

Obviously there are decent and respectable folk everywhere, the pity IS, that they are gradually being cajoled (or forced) into accepting codes of conduct which will ultimately drag them into the same quagmire of filth occupied by the said nation.

Unfortunately, the signs of degredation have rapidly appeared in the U.K. and throughout Europe, the Eastern cultures are now under severe threat, as are the highly (and enviably in my opinion) cultures of many African societies similarly under constant threat.

Let us now join together in a 'Bleating' of "What about Zimbabwe, Kenya and a multitude of other areas of the African continent" whose only fault seems to be that they are vigorously resisting the decadent influences of the 'White Man' who apparently have much to teach. :roll: :wink:

Ok, what are these signs of degredation in the UK that you have observed?
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