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[Hermes]

First of all, it was impossible for a country with border disputes to be a member of the EU. Secondly, it was impossible for the Republic of Cyprus to enter any international organization without the approval of Greece and Turkey, based upon the agreements and documents that established the Republic of Cyprus. As Turkey did not approve the Cyprus' membership under these conditions, the EU was defying both its laws and the international agreements.

I thought I explained that Turkey under Prime Minister Ciller actually gave its approval for the ROC to begin accession negotiations in exchange for Turkey joining the Customs Union. You really need to stop repeating that it didn't.

Turkey not only lost all authority over Cyprus by violating the Treaty of Guarantee in 1974, it actually never objected to Cyprus's beginning accession negotiations in 1995 because Turkey wanted to join the EU as well and saw entry into the Customs Union as the first stage of that process.

[All4114All]

Here we go... the elusive report!

The Eligibility of the Republic of Cyprus for EU Membership

Conclusions

"For the reasons we have given, we remain firmly of the opinion that there is no legal basis for the argument that Cyprus is prevented by the Treaty of Guarantee, or by any provisions of the Constitution of 1960, from becoming a member of the EU or from complying with its treaty obligations towards Turkey once it becomes a member."

First of all, it was impossible for a country with border disputes to be a member of the EU. Secondly, it was impossible for the Republic of Cyprus to enter any international organization without the approval of Greece and Turkey, based upon the agreements and documents that established the Republic of Cyprus. As Turkey did not approve the Cyprus' membership under these conditions, the EU was defying both its laws and the international agreements.

Which has further complicated the negotiation issues. Yet membership was promised to the EU after the Annan Plan to the TC if voted yes but after 7 years we are still isolated. It's leverage that the GC enjoy thats all.

As far as the EU/UN is concerned, there are no such thing as a "border disputes" in Cyprus since the RoC's territory is intact as one!

Sorry could not read on any further after the above statement maybe there blind to see that there are check points and passports checks to cross 'THE BORDER'.

[Hermes]

Here we go... the elusive report!

The Eligibility of the Republic of Cyprus for EU Membership

Conclusions

"For the reasons we have given, we remain firmly of the opinion that there is no legal basis for the argument that Cyprus is prevented by the Treaty of Guarantee, or by any provisions of the Constitution of 1960, from becoming a member of the EU or from complying with its treaty obligations towards Turkey once it becomes a member."

First of all, it was impossible for a country with border disputes to be a member of the EU. Secondly, it was impossible for the Republic of Cyprus to enter any international organization without the approval of Greece and Turkey, based upon the agreements and documents that established the Republic of Cyprus. As Turkey did not approve the Cyprus' membership under these conditions, the EU was defying both its laws and the international agreements.

Which has further complicated the negotiation issues. Yet membership was promised to the EU after the Annan Plan to the TC if voted yes but after 7 years we are still isolated. It's leverage that the GC enjoy thats all.

As far as the EU/UN is concerned, there are no such thing as a "border disputes" in Cyprus since the RoC's territory is intact as one!

Sorry could not read on any further after the above statement maybe there blind to see that there are check points and passports checks to cross 'THE BORDER'.

Sorry but you are missing the point. The border is not recognised and the territory in the north is deemed sovereign legal territory of the ROC. Under the terms of the ROC's EU accession the whole island is now part of the EU.

[Sotos]

Here we go... the elusive report!

The Eligibility of the Republic of Cyprus for EU Membership

Conclusions

"For the reasons we have given, we remain firmly of the opinion that there is no legal basis for the argument that Cyprus is prevented by the Treaty of Guarantee, or by any provisions of the Constitution of 1960, from becoming a member of the EU or from complying with its treaty obligations towards Turkey once it becomes a member."

First of all, it was impossible for a country with border disputes to be a member of the EU. Secondly, it was impossible for the Republic of Cyprus to enter any international organization without the approval of Greece and Turkey, based upon the agreements and documents that established the Republic of Cyprus. As Turkey did not approve the Cyprus' membership under these conditions, the EU was defying both its laws and the international agreements.

Which has further complicated the negotiation issues. Yet membership was promised to the EU after the Annan Plan to the TC if voted yes but after 7 years we are still isolated. It's leverage that the GC enjoy thats all.

As far as the EU/UN is concerned, there are no such thing as a "border disputes" in Cyprus since the RoC's territory is intact as one!

Sorry could not read on any further after the above statement maybe there blind to see that there are check points and passports checks to cross 'THE BORDER'.

They are not blind this is why they can see the Turkish army troops which occupy part our country.

[Get Real!]

Sorry could not read on any further after the above statement maybe there blind to see that there are check points and passports checks to cross 'THE BORDER'.

Education is key to debating the Cyprus problem:


First the basic definitions…

1. Borders define geographic boundaries of political entities or legal jurisdictions, such as governments, sovereign states, federated states and other subnational entities.

2. A demarcation line means simply a boundary around a specific area, but is commonly used to denote a temporary geopolitical border, often agreed upon as part of an armistice or ceasefire.


And now the official status of the Green line…

The term Green Line refers to the cease fire line that de facto divides the island nation of Cyprus into two, cutting through the capital of Nicosia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Line_(Cyprus)


UNFICYP soldier monitoring the demarcation line
http://www.ena.lu/unficyp_soldier_monit ... 07150.html


A UNFICYP patrol around the demarcation line in Nicosia
http://www.ena.lu/unficyp-patrol-demarc ... 07149.html


NB: On the CF fantasies don’t work so if you have problems with facts based on international law, it’s best not to participate on this forum.

[lovernomore]

Sorry could not read on any further after the above statement maybe there blind to see that there are check points and passports checks to cross 'THE BORDER'.

Education is key to debating the Cyprus problem:


First the basic definitions…

1. Borders define geographic boundaries of political entities or legal jurisdictions, such as governments, sovereign states, federated states and other subnational entities.

2. A demarcation line means simply a boundary around a specific area, but is commonly used to denote a temporary geopolitical border, often agreed upon as part of an armistice or ceasefire.


And now the official status of the Green line…

The term Green Line refers to the cease fire line that de facto divides the island nation of Cyprus into two, cutting through the capital of Nicosia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Line_(Cyprus)


UNFICYP soldier monitoring the demarcation line
http://www.ena.lu/unficyp_soldier_monit ... 07150.html


A UNFICYP patrol around the demarcation line in Nicosia
http://www.ena.lu/unficyp-patrol-demarc ... 07149.html


NB: On the CF fantasies don’t work so if you have problems with facts based on international law, it’s best not to participate on this forum.

Education or not, Green Line does not need a passport. so now please tell me what a border needs? Is it a driving licence? utility bill? Doctors report? maybe a letter from your mother?

[MrH]

I can only see one solution, a "Republic of Turkey and Northern Cyprus", and the Greek Cypriot Republic of Cyprus - Period. The TRNC will act like "Scotland", a Country with its own parliament but in one with the upper United Country (of Turkey). As for the rest - it's a crock of Rubbish time wasting tactics.

[Hermes]

The TRNC will act like "Scotland"...

Stop being silly and comparing yourselves with a real country with a real history that actually exists.

[All4114All]

Sorry could not read on any further after the above statement maybe there blind to see that there are check points and passports checks to cross 'THE BORDER'.

Education is key to debating the Cyprus problem:


First the basic definitions…

1. Borders define geographic boundaries of political entities or legal jurisdictions, such as governments, sovereign states, federated states and other subnational entities.

2. A demarcation line means simply a boundary around a specific area, but is commonly used to denote a temporary geopolitical border, often agreed upon as part of an armistice or ceasefire.


And now the official status of the Green line…

The term Green Line refers to the cease fire line that de facto divides the island nation of Cyprus into two, cutting through the capital of Nicosia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Line_(Cyprus)


UNFICYP soldier monitoring the demarcation line
http://www.ena.lu/unficyp_soldier_monit ... 07150.html


A UNFICYP patrol around the demarcation line in Nicosia
http://www.ena.lu/unficyp-patrol-demarc ... 07149.html


NB: On the CF fantasies don’t work so if you have problems with facts based on international law, it’s best not to participate on this forum.

Here is a fact on your international law
EU member states had promised Turkish Cypriots to ease the embargo when Greek Cypriots voted down the 2004 referendum on a United Nations-backed plan to reunify the island.

[boulio]

Here is a fact on your international law
EU member states had promised Turkish Cypriots to ease the embargo when Greek Cypriots voted down the 2004 referendum on a United Nations-backed plan to reunify the island

they have eased it with the green line regulation and 259 million euros in aid.