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[Get Real!]

Someone should stick some "genocide poo" on the US regarding the Native Americans, and Iraq and Vietnam, lets see how they will feel about all that.

Yes, but who? Is Erdogan brave enough to take the task?

Yes, I'm pretty sure he is brave/foolish enough to destroy Turkey... we've been waiting for someone like this to show up for a long time!

[shahmaran]

Someone should stick some "genocide poo" on the US regarding the Native Americans, and Iraq and Vietnam, lets see how they will feel about all that.

Yes, but who? Is Erdogan brave enough to take the task?

Yes, I'm pretty sure he is brave/foolish enough to destroy Turkey... we've been waiting for someone like this to show up for a long time!

He might succeed in that.

To be honest America has enough enemies, I am surprised no one has done much about it...

[AWE]

But the US has made it clear that it will not ask Turkey to host elements of the missile-shield and as such Turkey will not block it's deployment. Additionally, as the US Congress has already passed resolutions recognising the Armenian Genocide but this has little effect on US foreign policy as that is the preserve of the President not Congress. This story is all hot air so dont anyone get their hope up too much.

[CopperLine]

Pallio: It's not good mate. With Turkey being a major aggressor power in the region it could be bad news for everyone concerned in that they may start a war again. This time it could be catastrophic, for the many thousands of innocent civilians falling victim to the Turkish gun. War is awful and so is Turkey.

No, the historical record of Turkey since its foundation is that it has respected the Lausanne borders and has made no territorial claims on any of its neighbours (unlike Greece, Bulgaria, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Iran, Iraq and Syria); was neutral for most of the second world war (unlike all the above with the arguable exception of Iran); and with the exception of the Cyprus question and counter-PKK operations in Iraq has not acted for itself militarily outside Turkey.

So it is straightforward wrong to say that Turkey has been or is an aggressor power, never mind a major aggressor.

[denizaksulu]

Surely it either was or it wasn't 'genocide' depending on what the criteria for that is?

Or is the criteria for an event going down in history as 'genocide' just whether the US says it is or not?

it is even if us does not agree, they acknowledge it any way.

i like how 300 or so turks die = a kind of genocide and they murder how many millions of armenians and its not even murder

Palio, did you mean 300 TC's? If you did, then no sensible TC will claim that Genocide took place in Cyprus. As to GC intentions, thats all hear-say. Atrocities did take place on both sides, but Genocide NO. Ethnic cleansing YES.

[Jerry]

Pallio: It's not good mate. With Turkey being a major aggressor power in the region it could be bad news for everyone concerned in that they may start a war again. This time it could be catastrophic, for the many thousands of innocent civilians falling victim to the Turkish gun. War is awful and so is Turkey.

No, the historical record of Turkey since its foundation is that it has respected the Lausanne borders and has made no territorial claims on any of its neighbours (unlike Greece, Bulgaria, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Iran, Iraq and Syria); was neutral for most of the second world war (unlike all the above with the arguable exception of Iran); and with the exception of the Cyprus question and counter-PKK operations in Iraq has not acted for itself militarily outside Turkey.

So it is straightforward wrong to say that Turkey has been or is an aggressor power, never mind a major aggressor.

Really? Hatay? Imvros & Tenedos? F16 Flights over Greek islands? Claims to exploration rights in disputed areas of the sea? And of course the mass exodus of Greeks from Istanbul doesn't really count as aggression does it?
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[paliometoxo]

Surely it either was or it wasn't 'genocide' depending on what the criteria for that is?

Or is the criteria for an event going down in history as 'genocide' just whether the US says it is or not?

it is even if us does not agree, they acknowledge it any way.

i like how 300 or so turks die = a kind of genocide and they murder how many millions of armenians and its not even murder

Palio, did you mean 300 TC's? If you did, then no sensible TC will claim that Genocide took place in Cyprus. As to GC intentions, thats all hear-say. Atrocities did take place on both sides, but Genocide NO. Ethnic cleansing YES.

no my friend i did not mean tcs. the turks went into china or some where and some of them died then the turkish man went on tv saying it was a kind of genocide

[denizaksulu]

Surely it either was or it wasn't 'genocide' depending on what the criteria for that is?

Or is the criteria for an event going down in history as 'genocide' just whether the US says it is or not?

it is even if us does not agree, they acknowledge it any way.

i like how 300 or so turks die = a kind of genocide and they murder how many millions of armenians and its not even murder

Palio, did you mean 300 TC's? If you did, then no sensible TC will claim that Genocide took place in Cyprus. As to GC intentions, thats all hear-say. Atrocities did take place on both sides, but Genocide NO. Ethnic cleansing YES.

no my friend i did not mean tcs. the turks went into china or some where and some of them died then the turkish man went on tv saying it was a kind of genocide

Was that in the Xinjian province of China?

[paliometoxo]

yes i think so

[denizaksulu]

yes i think so

Do you know who were the 'invaders' and who were the 'invaded' in Xinjian? Nothing to do with Cyprus, but since you began.................