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[Me Ed]

Pull the other one, your are deluded by your self-importance..

Ask yourself, If Turkey was really THAT important we Europeans would be speeding up their entry into the EU?

I can't see any evidence for this, the reality is that the EU is not for Turkey.

Dream on, we Europeans don't need your security, your oil or anything from you!

[MrH]

Kikapu,
Or is it Winnie the Poo, the TC who is easily bought out by GC because he's been so deprived! My predictions, as you've said, are all in line with what will ultinmately materialise into Two working, recognised states of Cyprus. Cleaerly your pathetic little sold out mind would never under stand this as you believe in some Socialist, Communist Utopian idealistic Cyprus Society under a Greek Religious dominated Government. You appear to pay a great deal of sucking-up respect to the GCs without really knowing them. Are you From the TC New Cyprus Party, or are you working at the East Med University as a cleaner brainwashed without the realism of hard work before logic. I lost half of my family you young idiot to Nationalist Greek Cypriot I thought were friends between 1963-1974 due to the Slow integration of the AKRITAS PLAN - you would know that. Like with many other war torn countries peace was secured after the two peoples on the isalnd were able to determine their own future. I pitty your line of secretive thought, and would only like to say that you should step out a little bit more and speak to other EU member MEPs to see how they have started viewing our need for self determination as "Turkish Cypriots". If other countries like Kosovo can become independent, then why not us, clearly it works and has done since 1974. I love peace as much as you do, but not with a bunch of deep rooted GC I hope you will not see. A Socialist Solution will not come about in Cyprus, only a Democratic one with the examples of Montenegro, Serbia, Czech, Slovak, Kosovo, Slovenia and etc, etc, read the reason why they had gone their seperate ways and understand the need and beauty of when our Turkish Cypriot Republic will emerge under a barrage of Greek Cypriot hate and anger. I was in Brussells at the hearing of the DTR and I must say that the GCs appeared like a bunch of stray, angry hate driven dogs. Many MEP were truly embarrassed and shocked. I, well, I was happy regardless of the verall result. There will always be tomorrow.

This was written on my handheld device sorry my apologies for any typo errors.

[Kikapu]

Kikapu,
Or is it Winnie the Poo, the TC who is easily bought out by GC because he's been so deprived! My predictions, as you've said, are all in line with what will ultinmately materialise into Two working, recognised states of Cyprus. Cleaerly your pathetic little sold out mind would never under stand this as you believe in some Socialist, Communist Utopian idealistic Cyprus Society under a Greek Religious dominated Government. You appear to pay a great deal of sucking-up respect to the GCs without really knowing them. Are you From the TC New Cyprus Party, or are you working at the East Med University as a cleaner brainwashed without the realism of hard work before logic. I lost half of my family you young idiot to Nationalist Greek Cypriot I thought were friends between 1963-1974 due to the Slow integration of the AKRITAS PLAN - you would know that. Like with many other war torn countries peace was secured after the two peoples on the isalnd were able to determine their own future. I pitty your line of secretive thought, and would only like to say that you should step out a little bit more and speak to other EU member MEPs to see how they have started viewing our need for self determination as "Turkish Cypriots". If other countries like Kosovo can become independent, then why not us, clearly it works and has done since 1974. I love peace as much as you do, but not with a bunch of deep rooted GC I hope you will not see. A Socialist Solution will not come about in Cyprus, only a Democratic one with the examples of Montenegro, Serbia, Czech, Slovak, Kosovo, Slovenia and etc, etc, read the reason why they had gone their seperate ways and understand the need and beauty of when our Turkish Cypriot Republic will emerge under a barrage of Greek Cypriot hate and anger. I was in Brussells at the hearing of the DTR and I must say that the GCs appeared like a bunch of stray, angry hate driven dogs. Many MEP were truly embarrassed and shocked. I, well, I was happy regardless of the verall result. There will always be tomorrow.

This was written on my handheld device sorry my apologies for any typo errors.

Thank you for proving my point, MrH. You can't even stick to the topic at hand without lashing out like a incompetent NeoPartitionist Fascist, let alone any accuracies in any of your posts. Any simpleton will tell you that there are ZERO relationships between events taken place in former Yugoslavia and it's former satellite states such as the ones you have mentioned above, Montenegro, Serbia, Czech, Slovak, Kosovo, Slovenia, to any comparison to Cyprus what so ever. Even your motherland Turkey understands that very clearly, but not die hard wishful dreamers such as yourself.!

[Viewpoint]

Well let me make it clear to you.

We Europeans don't care whether Turkey opens its ports to the RoC or not or whether Turkey recognises the RoC or not.

the bigger picture is that Turkey needs to do this to join the EU.

Turkey should stop wasting time and withdraw its EU application, because we Europeans don't need Turkey for anything yes NOTHING.

thats where you are wrong Turkey doesnt need to be in the EU she has and can easily continue as is there are many examples of sucessful countries outside of the EU. It is not the end of the world if you are not in the EU the comment that Turkey needs the EU only reveals how narrow minded you have become.

VP read my comments carefully because I never said Turkey needs the EU.

I just pointed out a couple of items Turkey needs to do in order to join the EU and to stop wasting the EUs time if they are unwilling to do them.

Turkeys policy on Cyprus is... just not European.

Turkey like any other country will do whatevers best for Turkey, if the ideology of joining the EU reeps enough benefits for her populous she will continue on as is, she couldnt give a rats tail about the GCs how could she she doesnt recognize you in your current state. She has clearly made her choice its the TCs and the TRNC over the EU.

[MrH]

What I have seen so far clearly shows there is an agreed divide along the line. Can the EU ignore this when they claim that the puppet RoC represents the whole island, or has the EU got something else instore for the dreaming GCs? For instance, and especially during the Orams case, and then later the Recognition of the TRNC Immovable Property Commisson, I wonder where and for what reason the EU allowed a GC court to take a ruling against something in the KKTC - on the side of the line where they have no control. Unless the EU is indirectly promoting the TRNC behind the back of the GCs? We all know that the EU has been working very closely with institutions and business areas in the TRNC without the GCs knowing about, I wonder what the end result will be?

[MrH]

And, if the above Cease Fire Line UN agreed agreement can be ignored, perhaps not as a whole but in part, then I see no reason as to why Resolutions 540 and 541 can't also be sidelined! It's all clearly up in the air and perhaps even a double-edged sword. I wouldn't be surprised if the EU does one behind the back of the GCs............I wonder!

[boomerang]

why don't you stay offline until such time when something is posted in the paper...

you went from gleaming about the lisbon treaty and how DT is a foregone conclusion, to putting a new spin telling us that wasn't the case all along...

time to get it through your head, the EU with all her institutions, laws and treaties ain't going to overstep/break laws for the sake of anyone...but then again understanding legalities, treaties and what the union is all about, doesn't look like is part of your forte...