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[lola-tulip]

ARTICLE 4

In the event of a settlement, the Council, acting unanimously on the basis of a proposal from the Commission, shall decide on the adaptations to the terms concerning the accession of Cyprus to the European Union with regard to the Turkish Cypriot Community.


http://www.publications.parliament.uk/p ... 111702.htm

[kurupetos]

It's TCs/Turkey that doesn't allow TCs into the EU. The rest is BS.

[lola-tulip]

Seems to me, it will be up to the RoC to present a strong case for inclusion of the 'Turkish Cypriot Community' as being part of the RoC, and not effectively part of a non-EU, and ousted Turkey.

In all likelihood, they may have to be repatriated to Turkey, along with Settlers, and the 70 Million who wanted to be in EU, but failed.

[paliometoxo]

technically they already are since they have access to roc passports and id cards and most of them have them

[lola-tulip]

No, technically they are not. It will be up to the "Council, acting unanimously on the basis of a proposal from the Commission" who "shall decide on the adaptations to the terms concerning the accession of Cyprus to the European Union with regard to the Turkish Cypriot Community."


The territory is RoC-EU ~~ but not the 'TC community'.

All the paraphernalia allowed to TCs is courtesy of RoC, for the present. They can be taken away.

You see, it is just as well the acquis is suspended in the occupied region, until settlement.

[bill cobbett]

ARTICLE 4

In the event of a settlement, the Council, acting unanimously on the basis of a proposal from the Commission, shall decide on the adaptations to the terms concerning the accession of Cyprus to the European Union with regard to the Turkish Cypriot Community.


http://www.publications.parliament.uk/p ... 111702.htm

May just add a couple of sentences from the link LoLaT gives that catch the eye cos it's something that has troubled me for ages...

THE HIGH CONTRACTING PARTIES,

"Reaffirming their commitment to a comprehensive settlement of the Cyprus problem, consistent with relevant United Nations Security Council Resolutions, and their strong support for the efforts of the United Nations Secretary General to that end"

Once again the sanctity of the UN Resolutions is stressed. They've stood the tests over the decades, they are still there unscathed, a wall to the partitionist wet-dreamers and then there is this...

"Considering that the European Union is ready to accommodate the terms of such a settlement in line with the principles on which the EU is founded"

Which begs some questions in my mind (and there are others), just what are the "founding principles" and how do they sit with some aspects of the Resolutions and the HL Agreement of '77? .... here are a couple of the questions that have been causing trouble...

Is any form of BBF (contained within some of the resolutions) consistent with these "founding principles" ?

Is mass expropriation of peoples' property consistent with "founding principles" ?

Just asking.

[lola-tulip]

Which begs some questions in my mind (and there are others), just what are the "founding principles" and how do they sit with some aspects of the Resolutions and the HL Agreement of '77? .... here are a couple of the questions that have been causing trouble...

Is any form of BBF (contained within some of the resolutions) consistent with these "founding principles" ?

Is mass expropriation of peoples' property consistent with "founding principles" ?

Just asking.

Thank you, bill, for broaching this issue.

Some answers might be found here:

http://europa.eu/scadplus/constitution/ ... ves_en.htm

The GCs, as part of the RoC, have been accepted into the EU "founding principles", no problem. But the exclusion of the TCs raises a number of issues. It highlights their desire to be anything but participants of EU ideals.

When it is settled and Turkey has to withdraw, with/out a war, then there will be high level meetings to decide on whether the TCs can ever fit into the EU.

The demands they made of the GCs are not in keeping with EU principles and, in a better future, they may have to forego these demands, or forego Cyprus and EU.

[AWE]

ARTICLE 4

In the event of a settlement, the Council, acting unanimously on the basis of a proposal from the Commission, shall decide on the adaptations to the terms concerning the accession of Cyprus to the European Union with regard to the Turkish Cypriot Community.


http://www.publications.parliament.uk/p ... 111702.htm

Does this mean that post-settlement a member of the council has a veto on TC membership of the EU?

So TCs can be individual members, the country they live in is a member, but the area within that country is not perhaps. This looks like the Alund islands of Finland and I guess this would allow this situation post-settlement.

[Kikapu]

ARTICLE 4

In the event of a settlement, the Council, acting unanimously on the basis of a proposal from the Commission, shall decide on the adaptations to the terms concerning the accession of Cyprus to the European Union with regard to the Turkish Cypriot Community.


http://www.publications.parliament.uk/p ... 111702.htm

Does this mean that post-settlement a member of the council has a veto on TC membership of the EU?

So TCs can be individual members, the country they live in is a member, but the area within that country is not perhaps. This looks like the Alund islands of Finland and I guess this would allow this situation post-settlement.

I'm assuming you are all talking about the north being an independent sovereign nation for it not being part of the EU, despite the remaining TCs in Cyprus retaining their EU citizenship as duel citizens with the EU member state, the RoC and also being the citizens of what may then become the legal trnc, or are you all talking about the north being one of the two states under BBF Federation, which the north state then being part of the new RoC would be part of the EU, just as it was in the Annan Plan, but based on Confederation, which would have been possible for the two states then to break away from the new RoC to become independent sovereign state and then make the argument to the EU that they should also remain in the EU as a new EU member country. Under the that scenario, the EU would have had a very hard time to refuse that request, which the north would have become a new EU member state. This would have of course served Turkey's interest as being able to enter the EU through the back door by using the north as a "Trojan Horse" to have influence within the EU. The Annan Plan was not a "peace plan" but a plan of master disguises to benefit Turkey and her supporters and nothing else. Unfortunately for Turkey, the GCs foiled her plans with an OXI vote at the 2004 AP referendum, with the blessing of the EU behind the scenes, no doubt.!

[paliometoxo]

No, technically they are not. It will be up to the "Council, acting unanimously on the basis of a proposal from the Commission" who "shall decide on the adaptations to the terms concerning the accession of Cyprus to the European Union with regard to the Turkish Cypriot Community."


The territory is RoC-EU ~~ but not the 'TC community'.

All the paraphernalia allowed to TCs is courtesy of RoC, for the present. They can be taken away.

You see, it is just as well the acquis is suspended in the occupied region, until settlement.

they have access to EU passports and id cards do they not?