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[halil]

Christofias kept the invitation a well locked secret. He admitted he recieved a call from Ban only after Eroglu made it public. Eroglu accepted but Christofias declined on account that he will see President Assad of Syria on that day!

A step closer to partition, I am afraid.

Meanwhile, contradictory statements came from the Greek Cypriot Side regarding Ban’s invitation for a trio meeting.
Christofias first said ‘no’ to the invitation and gave his busy agenda as a reason.

Contrariwise, the Greek Cypriot Leader later expressed his desire towards holding a trio meeting with Ban and Eroğlu in New York as soon as possible, after Eroğlu delivered to the UN his positive response.

According to the official Greek Cypriot news agency, Christofias said there was false information about his first response to Ban’s invitation.


he has no balls to run away from the meeting

they must lock them in a room till they find solution.... how far Christo will run away or delay the result of the talks...... grasshopper one jumps...two jumps ....at the end *********

[ZoC]

Christofias kept the invitation a well locked secret. He admitted he recieved a call from Ban only after Eroglu made it public. Eroglu accepted but Christofias declined on account that he will see President Assad of Syria on that day!

A step closer to partition, I am afraid.

Meanwhile, contradictory statements came from the Greek Cypriot Side regarding Ban’s invitation for a trio meeting.
Christofias first said ‘no’ to the invitation and gave his busy agenda as a reason.

...a soft 'no' to cement the yes.

Contrariwise, the Greek Cypriot Leader later expressed his desire towards holding a trio meeting with Ban and Eroğlu in New York as soon as possible, after Eroğlu delivered to the UN his positive response.

According to the official Greek Cypriot news agency, Christofias said there was false information about his first response to Ban’s invitation.


he has no balls to run away from the meeting

it's people without balls who run away, fool.

they must lock them in a room till they find solution.... how far Christo will run away or delay the result of the talks...... grasshopper one jumps...two jumps ....at the end *********

what's the hurry, halil?

[halil]

TRNC President Dervis Eroglu has said that the United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon has invited him to New York for a trio meeting via telephone. Mr Eroglu was speaking during a visit paid to him by a delegation from the Ankara Diplomacy Correspondents’ Association.

Responding to a question during the visit, Eroglu made public that the UN Secretary General called him yesterday afternoon and complained about the course of the negotiations process.

He noted that he gave a positive response to the UN Chief’s invitation for a trio meeting in New York and the meeting will take place within 15 days if the Greek Cypriot Side also accepts the invitation.

On the issue of Maras, Eroglu said that it is impossible to end the Cyprus Problem with partial solutions while continuing comprehensive negotiations.

In a statement earlier, a UN spokesman announced that the UN Chief held separate telephone conversations with the TRNC President Dervis Eroglu and the ROC President Dimitris Christofias.

The Spokesperson stated that Ban was following the Cyprus negotiations process closely through his Adviser for Cyprus Alexander Downer and that a report would be prepared in the following month regarding the progress at the talks.

The spokesperson said that the UN Secretary General spoke to the leaders about the slowing down of the Cyprus talks in the past couple of weeks and called on them to capture concrete steps on the property issue and maintain the momentum of the peace talks.

The date for a tripartite meeting between Dervis Eroglu, Dimitris Christofias and the UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon in New York has been set. The UN Secretary General has sent an invitation for both of the leaders on the island to join him in New York for a 3 way meeting on the 18th of November.

According to a statement released by the United Nations, the meeting between the 3 men will take place within the framework of the ongoing talks to resolve the Cyprus problem.

[Gasman]

I see he has postponed the 'property' aspect of the 'talks' yet again.

As the only thing most seem to go on and on about is their property and land why on earth these things weren't dealt with first baffles me.

Because surely, without agreement on those, there will be no agreement or anything.

Or is Christofias just putting off the day when he has to face the uproar from those of his electorate who are concerned about this - when they find out just what he is prepared to 'compromise' on?

Maybe there are more Cypriots who have benefitted greatly and will continue to benefit from the 'status quo' (or if not more in number, they have 'clout') than there are those who dearly want to see their property issues settled. I cannot think of any other reason it would have been allowed to go on for so many years.

[repulsewarrior]

...property and territory do go hand in hand.

a Sovereign State we are, the Jurisdictional territories are a matter yet to be discussed. if property rights are to be respected, there may be a solution in regarding them without discrimination, where as Persons we can sustain our own majority.

[Jerry]

Well, it looks as if the property issue is back on the agenda: -

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/news- ... talks.html

The complex property issue between the divided people of the Mediterranean island of Cyprus will be the main item on the agenda when UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon hosts the Turkish and Greek Cypriot leaders in New York on Nov. 18 to take stock of UN-mediated talks aimed at reuniting the island, which has been divided for 36 years........
Protection of the majority of the population and property is essential for both constituent parties, Eroğlu said. Around 1.5 million acres of property in the KKTC belong to Greek Cypriots, while Turkish Cypriots have around 500,000 acres of property in the southern Greek part of the island, Eroğlu said.

I can’t work out this “1.5 million acres” and “500,000 acres” business. I calculated that the total area of Cyprus is 2,285,440 acres. Let’s hope Eroglu’s negotiating skills are as bad as his maths. Still it looks as if he at least concedes that they have got to give up part of the 37% they occupy, but how much?

[Kikapu]

Well, it looks as if the property issue is back on the agenda: -

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/news- ... talks.html

The complex property issue between the divided people of the Mediterranean island of Cyprus will be the main item on the agenda when UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon hosts the Turkish and Greek Cypriot leaders in New York on Nov. 18 to take stock of UN-mediated talks aimed at reuniting the island, which has been divided for 36 years........
Protection of the majority of the population and property is essential for both constituent parties, Eroğlu said. Around 1.5 million acres of property in the KKTC belong to Greek Cypriots, while Turkish Cypriots have around 500,000 acres of property in the southern Greek part of the island, Eroğlu said.

I can’t work out this “1.5 million acres” and “500,000 acres” business. I calculated that the total area of Cyprus is 2,285,440 acres. Let’s hope Eroglu’s negotiating skills are as bad as his maths. Still it looks as if he at least concedes that they have got to give up part of the 37% they occupy, but how much?

Just using Eroglu's simple mathematics, I would say 1 million acres of the GCs properties in the north to be given back just so to call it even Stevens.!

But then again, I think Eroglu is talking about a 70%-30% split of the 2 million acres between the TCs and the GCs and the remaining 285,440 acres being the British Bases, therefore, he wants to give back ONLY 7% of GC land from the north.!

[Jerry]

Well, it looks as if the property issue is back on the agenda: -

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/news- ... talks.html

The complex property issue between the divided people of the Mediterranean island of Cyprus will be the main item on the agenda when UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon hosts the Turkish and Greek Cypriot leaders in New York on Nov. 18 to take stock of UN-mediated talks aimed at reuniting the island, which has been divided for 36 years........
Protection of the majority of the population and property is essential for both constituent parties, Eroğlu said. Around 1.5 million acres of property in the KKTC belong to Greek Cypriots, while Turkish Cypriots have around 500,000 acres of property in the southern Greek part of the island, Eroğlu said.

I can’t work out this “1.5 million acres” and “500,000 acres” business. I calculated that the total area of Cyprus is 2,285,440 acres. Let’s hope Eroglu’s negotiating skills are as bad as his maths. Still it looks as if he at least concedes that they have got to give up part of the 37% they occupy, but how much?

Just using Eroglu's simple mathematics, I would say 1 million acres of the GCs properties in the north to be given back just so to call it even Stevens.!

But then again, I think Eroglu is talking about a 70%-30% split of the 2 million acres between the TCs and the GCs and the remaining 285,440 acres being the British Bases, therefore, he wants to give back ONLY 7% of GC land from the north.!

But 1 million acres is 43% of the whole island, according to genius Eroglu he is going to give back more than he has already got.

British bases are 99 sq miles I believe. 99 x 640 = 63,360 acres.

[Gasman]

In one of the articles I was reading earlier on the subject I saw the figure of 29% mentioned as the total land the TCs would end up with.

[Kikapu]

Well, it looks as if the property issue is back on the agenda: -

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/news- ... talks.html

The complex property issue between the divided people of the Mediterranean island of Cyprus will be the main item on the agenda when UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon hosts the Turkish and Greek Cypriot leaders in New York on Nov. 18 to take stock of UN-mediated talks aimed at reuniting the island, which has been divided for 36 years........
Protection of the majority of the population and property is essential for both constituent parties, Eroğlu said. Around 1.5 million acres of property in the KKTC belong to Greek Cypriots, while Turkish Cypriots have around 500,000 acres of property in the southern Greek part of the island, Eroğlu said.

I can’t work out this “1.5 million acres” and “500,000 acres” business. I calculated that the total area of Cyprus is 2,285,440 acres. Let’s hope Eroglu’s negotiating skills are as bad as his maths. Still it looks as if he at least concedes that they have got to give up part of the 37% they occupy, but how much?

Just using Eroglu's simple mathematics, I would say 1 million acres of the GCs properties in the north to be given back just so to call it even Stevens.!

But then again, I think Eroglu is talking about a 70%-30% split of the 2 million acres between the TCs and the GCs and the remaining 285,440 acres being the British Bases, therefore, he wants to give back ONLY 7% of GC land from the north.!

But 1 million acres is 43% of the whole island, according to genius Eroglu he is going to give back more than he has already got.

British bases are 99 sq miles I believe. 99 x 640 = 63,360 acres.

I'm sure Eroglu was talking about total land to be owned by each side after a settlement over the whole island and not 1.5 million acres of GC and in the north. After the British Bases, he probably wants to give 200,000+ acres to the Turkish Army.!