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[Gasman]

Apparently one of the reasons these 'talks' have been so long drawn out was because Christofias, representing the GC side, refused to accept the Annan Plan as a starting point. And that it took a very long time to construct a 'new' document. That, in fact, most GC politicians did not want the Annan Plan ever mentioned again because it was no better than an international plot to destroy their country.

But in January this year, Christofias wrote a letter to the five permanent members of the UN Security Council in which he officially protested 10 instances in which, he said, a set of new Turkish proposals differed from the Annan Plan.

??

[Get Real!]

But in January this year, Christofias wrote a letter to the five permanent members of the UN Security Council in which he officially protested 10 instances in which, he said, a set of new Turkish proposals differed from the Annan Plan.

So where’s the link to that letter?

[CBBB]

Apparently one of the reasons these 'talks' have been so long drawn out was because Christofias, representing the GC side, refused to accept the Annan Plan as a starting point. And that it took a very long time to construct a 'new' document. That, in fact, most GC politicians did not want the Annan Plan ever mentioned again because it was no better than an international plot to destroy their country.

But in January this year, Christofias wrote a letter to the five permanent members of the UN Security Council in which he officially protested 10 instances in which, he said, a set of new Turkish proposals differed from the Annan Plan.

??

Pissed again!

[Gasman]

Yes he must have been pissed when he did it. But then he seems to make a habit of putting his foot in his mouth.

Find it yourself GR. The sources of any links I do provide are rubbished - however credible and 'respectable' they are.

But when you or one of your lads or ladies in waiting can find even a shred of an insult directed at Turks or Turkish Cypriots you are happy to quote from the most obscure and demented blogs!

You should be able to find the info easily - after all you are the only one who has a computer and internet connection that finds Cyprus on the front page of the World News DAILY (according to you!)

[Gasman]

You can look this up too - shouldn't be too difficult (can't be arsed to tidy up the layout for you (it's from a PDF) :

Christofias sent a letter to the
five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council and heads of the EU member
states complaining about the new Turkish Cypriot negotiating positions. In his letter, Christofias
stated that the Turkish Cypriot [proposals] “show that the Turkish Cypriot side supports positions
which contravene the agreed basis and sensitive balances which have been shaped during decades
of negotiations. It is not possible to expect the Greek Cypriot side to accept positions which are
beyond the balances.”10 Interestingly, in his letter, President Christofias, in arguing against each
of the provisions of the Talat proposal, argued how they differed not from a Greek Cypriot
negotiating position, but from the 2004 Annan Plan, which Christofias had insisted could not
necessarily be the basis for an agreed settlement. For some, and although Christofias referred to
“sensitive balances” in addition to the Annan Plan, this raised the question of whether the Greek
Cypriot position on, for instance, governance was in fact the Annan plan.

But ... WHY DON'T YOU ALREADY KNOW ALL THIS?

[Gasman]

And here: (early this year)

For years, Greek Cypriot politicians and opinion leaders have bitterly protested that the Annan Plan that they rejected in 2004 should not be mentioned ever again because it represented an international plot to destroy their country. But in January 2010, President Christofias sent a letter to the five permanent members of the UN Security Council in which he officially protested 10 instances in which, he said, a set of new Turkish proposals differed from the Annan Plan.

As time goes by, more and more people may come to regret the demise of this rigorously negotiated document, however difficult it might have been to implement. Saving today has always seemed more palatable to Cypriots then planning for tomorrow, but tomorrow always comes.

[Bananiot]

Christofias shouldn't have gone to the talks and demand they start from zero basis. That was a cardinal mistake. He basically let Turkey off the hook. He should have asked fot the Annan Plan (which was accepted by the Turkish side) to be the basis of the negotiations and give a list of improvements our side needs in order for the GG's to cement a yes vote.

Had he done this he would find only support from the international community and Turkey would have been put to a real test. Unfortunately he seems more concerned to preserve the precarious alliance with the rejectionists of DIKO.

[BirKibrisli]

You can look this up too - shouldn't be too difficult (can't be arsed to tidy up the layout for you (it's from a PDF) :

Christofias sent a letter to the
five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council and heads of the EU member
states complaining about the new Turkish Cypriot negotiating positions. In his letter, Christofias
stated that the Turkish Cypriot [proposals] “show that the Turkish Cypriot side supports positions
which contravene the agreed basis and sensitive balances which have been shaped during decades
of negotiations. It is not possible to expect the Greek Cypriot side to accept positions which are
beyond the balances.”10 Interestingly, in his letter, President Christofias, in arguing against each
of the provisions of the Talat proposal, argued how they differed not from a Greek Cypriot
negotiating position, but from the 2004 Annan Plan, which Christofias had insisted could not
necessarily be the basis for an agreed settlement. For some, and although Christofias referred to
“sensitive balances” in addition to the Annan Plan, this raised the question of whether the Greek
Cypriot position on, for instance, governance was in fact the Annan plan.

But ... WHY DON'T YOU ALREADY KNOW ALL THIS?

GR most probably knows all about it,Gasman,but choses to ignore it...That is what pure propaganists do,they pick and chose what they want,then put the best possible spin on it for their side (or the worse possible spin for the other side),and convince themselves and their soulmates that it is the gospel truth...

[Tony-4497]

Christofias was protesting that Turkish proposals were even worse than (not just "different to") the AP, which was rejected as unacceptable by 76% of GCs.

That said, his reference to the AP as well as to "established sensitive balances" in the same letter demostrate that what he is cooking up is the AP with a different name.. everyone knows he initially accepted the AP and then changed his tune when he realised it wouldn't pass (which effectively landed him the Presidency..)

The negotiations are just a farce.. Nothing more than 2 parties that both accepted the AP (Turkey and Christofias) putting on a show in order to "sell" this plan to the GCs.. with Downer in the role of the PR adviser/ scaremonger.. if and when they reach the point where they feel that a majority of GCs has "bought it", then they will run a referendum.

Unfortunately for the GC side, however, Christofias (and possibly Anastasiades) may have illusions of being great leaders and that the public will just follow them blindly into a Yes at referendum on an AP-type solution - and choose to ignore polls (all of which say the opposite). This is the greatest risk right now i.e. a second No at referendum due to a criminal and arrogant miscalculation, mainly by Christofias.

[Bananiot]

Its either an Annan-like solution or disaster for Cyprus. These are our options and our choice should be obvious.