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Postby boomerang » Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:04 am

in the same token, something you don't even acknowledge, the fear and mistrust towards turkey for 74...

and you get rhetoric from your elected leader
The Turkish Cypriot leader said on Monday that their mission was to maintain Turkish presence in Cyprus.

We are standing firm on our feet with the support of Turkey and Turkish Armed Forces


along with the picasso on the mountain, rubbing salt to the wounds how do you expect anyone to take you seriously regarding tc compassion, empathy and understanding...

you want all those , do something about it...this is what piratis is trying to tell you, but as per usual, you call him a robot...

i for one wouldn't trust anything coming out of your whining mouth...why?...coz end of the day your version of BBF is build on apartheid...you want to keep what you got and expect the gcs to legalise it...

you come back to this is, oh the tcs will reciprocate...how when turkey sunk all this money?...you think the tcs will ever be able to govern with cyprus at heart?...especially when you became a minority in your own illegal statelet?...

you thnk the tcs will obey an eu directive against turkey?...here is an example, as the chief turkish negotiator offered...let us continue with the EU accession and every country can have a referendum if turkey can join or not at the end...how do you think in your own mind this pan out?...
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Postby Hermes » Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:18 am

BirKibrisli wrote:.The GCs had all the strings of power in their hands since 1963...You did bugger all to win us over,to ease our minds,to gain our trust...You doggedly and bloodymindedly went about trying to crush all TC resistance and all TC presence on the island...You are still trying hard to make sure the spirit of Akritas is alive and well....What do you expect? A pat on the back from the TCs...??? :roll:


What a bitter post. You are determined to see the Turkish Cypriots as victims not contributors to the island's misfortune and you view all Greek Cypriots as an enemy waiting to pounce on the poor Turkish Cypriot. As if we haven't got better things to do.

You also have the cheek to demand apologies from Greek Cypriots while justifying the Turkish occupation and exploitation of our land as some kind of punishment for alleged historical misdeeds. As if we owe Turks an apology for stealing from us. It's like asking a man to apologise to the rapist for raping his wife.

It's about time the T/Cs stopped blaming G/C's for their predicament. The plight of today's Turkish Cypriot community is the direct result of Turkey’s occupation of Cyprus, which keeps the country, its people, its institutions and its economy forcibly divided. It is also the result of misguided policies by Turkish Cypriot leaders who have consistently promoted Turkey’s interests at the expense of their own community and of Cyprus as a whole.

If you cared as much for the T/Cs as you claim you'd realize that only the genuine reunification of Cyprus that provides for the reintegration of its people and economy can improve the situation of the Turkish Cypriots, allow them to realize their full potential and share the benefits of EU membership. Instead you cannot envisage a future for T/Cs without the Turkish yoke providing a false security which as each year passes leads to their slow but inevitable decline.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:17 pm

Hermes wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:.The GCs had all the strings of power in their hands since 1963...You did bugger all to win us over,to ease our minds,to gain our trust...You doggedly and bloodymindedly went about trying to crush all TC resistance and all TC presence on the island...You are still trying hard to make sure the spirit of Akritas is alive and well....What do you expect? A pat on the back from the TCs...??? :roll:


What a bitter post. You are determined to see the Turkish Cypriots as victims not contributors to the island's misfortune and you view all Greek Cypriots as an enemy waiting to pounce on the poor Turkish Cypriot. As if we haven't got better things to do.

You also have the cheek to demand apologies from Greek Cypriots while justifying the Turkish occupation and exploitation of our land as some kind of punishment for alleged historical misdeeds. As if we owe Turks an apology for stealing from us. It's like asking a man to apologise to the rapist for raping his wife.

It's about time the T/Cs stopped blaming G/C's for their predicament. The plight of today's Turkish Cypriot community is the direct result of Turkey’s occupation of Cyprus, which keeps the country, its people, its institutions and its economy forcibly divided. It is also the result of misguided policies by Turkish Cypriot leaders who have consistently promoted Turkey’s interests at the expense of their own community and of Cyprus as a whole.

If you cared as much for the T/Cs as you claim you'd realize that only the genuine reunification of Cyprus that provides for the reintegration of its people and economy can improve the situation of the Turkish Cypriots, allow them to realize their full potential and share the benefits of EU membership. Instead you cannot envisage a future for T/Cs without the Turkish yoke providing a false security which as each year passes leads to their slow but inevitable decline.


Yeah,sure thing...Turkey woke up one day on a fine July morning and decided it was a nice day for a little neighbourly invasion...

Is that what they taught you at primary school???

I have lost my ancestral village,my childhood was stolen,I had to leave my country and go live in the arse end of the world,all because your fanatical ancestors wanted to have Enosis with Greece...Now you are pointing the finger at the TCs...Turkey doesnt want to join the EU,you fools...Erdogan is stringing you along and laughing behind your backs b ecause you believe you have a EU leverage over Turkey...I have news for you...The millionth Turkish settler is on his way to Cyprus,and another few years and no force in the whole world will save your sorry arses from the clutches of the Islamic Republic of Greater Turkey...And you will have only yourselves to blame...don't say I didn't warn you... :twisted:
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Postby lovernomore » Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:19 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
Hermes wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:.The GCs had all the strings of power in their hands since 1963...You did bugger all to win us over,to ease our minds,to gain our trust...You doggedly and bloodymindedly went about trying to crush all TC resistance and all TC presence on the island...You are still trying hard to make sure the spirit of Akritas is alive and well....What do you expect? A pat on the back from the TCs...??? :roll:


What a bitter post. You are determined to see the Turkish Cypriots as victims not contributors to the island's misfortune and you view all Greek Cypriots as an enemy waiting to pounce on the poor Turkish Cypriot. As if we haven't got better things to do.

You also have the cheek to demand apologies from Greek Cypriots while justifying the Turkish occupation and exploitation of our land as some kind of punishment for alleged historical misdeeds. As if we owe Turks an apology for stealing from us. It's like asking a man to apologise to the rapist for raping his wife.

It's about time the T/Cs stopped blaming G/C's for their predicament. The plight of today's Turkish Cypriot community is the direct result of Turkey’s occupation of Cyprus, which keeps the country, its people, its institutions and its economy forcibly divided. It is also the result of misguided policies by Turkish Cypriot leaders who have consistently promoted Turkey’s interests at the expense of their own community and of Cyprus as a whole.

If you cared as much for the T/Cs as you claim you'd realize that only the genuine reunification of Cyprus that provides for the reintegration of its people and economy can improve the situation of the Turkish Cypriots, allow them to realize their full potential and share the benefits of EU membership. Instead you cannot envisage a future for T/Cs without the Turkish yoke providing a false security which as each year passes leads to their slow but inevitable decline.


Yeah,sure thing...Turkey woke up one day on a fine July morning and decided it was a nice day for a little neighbourly invasion...

Is that what they taught you at primary school???

I have lost my ancestral village,my childhood was stolen,I had to leave my country and go live in the arse end of the world,all because your fanatical ancestors wanted to have Enosis with Greece...Now you are pointing the finger at the TCs...Turkey doesnt want to join the EU,you fools...Erdogan is stringing you along and laughing behind your backs b ecause you believe you have a EU leverage over Turkey...I have news for you...The millionth Turkish settler is on his way to Cyprus,and another few years and no force in the whole world will save your sorry arses from the clutches of the Islamic Republic of Greater Turkey...And you will have only yourselves to blame...don't say I didn't warn you... :twisted:


Very well said my dear freind. Shame these fools dont see where this all leading to.
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Postby B25 » Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:08 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:


Yeah,sure thing...Turkey woke up one day on a fine July morning and decided it was a nice day for a little neighbourly invasion...


No, this was preplanned from the 50's you moron.

I have lost my ancestral village,my childhood was stolen,I had to leave my country


More bollocks, you never owned any of these, they were on loan to a historical bully, waiting our time to get you the fuck out.

The millionth Turkish settler is on his way to Cyprus

Blah blah fucking blah, more threats, Birk, stick them mate, we don't give a rats arse how many cockroaches you bring over, we will deal with them like any other pest.
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Postby Hermes » Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:03 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:Yeah,sure thing...Turkey woke up one day on a fine July morning and decided it was a nice day for a little neighbourly invasion...


You really need to get your facts straight. Turkey had been itching to invade and partition Cyprus for years. Go read any historical account of the period. The coup in 1974 was a pretext for partition. That is the reality of what we are dealing with. That is why Turkey still occupies Cyprus to this day. Turkey is in occupation of a sovereign country and ethnically cleansed that country in order to achieve its aims. Everything else is irrelevant to that one reality. Your shameless attempts to turn the T/Cs into victims of this saga and to cast Greek Cypriots as culpable for the crimes committed against them is nothing short of pathetic.
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:07 pm

Hermes wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:Yeah,sure thing...Turkey woke up one day on a fine July morning and decided it was a nice day for a little neighbourly invasion...


You really need to get your facts straight. Turkey had been itching to invade and partition Cyprus for years. Go read any historical account of the period. The coup in 1974 was a pretext for partition. That is the reality of what we are dealing with. That is why Turkey still occupies Cyprus to this day. Turkey is in occupation of a sovereign country and ethnically cleansed that country in order to achieve its aims. Everything else is irrelevant to that one reality. Your shameless attempts to turn the T/Cs into victims of this saga and to cast Greek Cypriots as culpable for the crimes committed against them is nothing short of pathetic.


are you a gc by any chance?
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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:58 am

Hermes wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:Yeah,sure thing...Turkey woke up one day on a fine July morning and decided it was a nice day for a little neighbourly invasion...


You really need to get your facts straight. Turkey had been itching to invade and partition Cyprus for years. Go read any historical account of the period. The coup in 1974 was a pretext for partition. That is the reality of what we are dealing with. That is why Turkey still occupies Cyprus to this day. Turkey is in occupation of a sovereign country and ethnically cleansed that country in order to achieve its aims. Everything else is irrelevant to that one reality. Your shameless attempts to turn the T/Cs into victims of this saga and to cast Greek Cypriots as culpable for the crimes committed against them is nothing short of pathetic.


Hermes,
I am going to tell you some historical facts,s-l-o-w-l-y s-o y-o-u c-a-n u-n-d-e-r-s-t-a-n-d.....The GCs were itching for Enosis with Greece since 1821...in 1950 they voted on mass in a GOChurch sponsored referandum for Enosis with Greece...In 1955 they started an armed struggle (aka terrorism) via an organisation called E>O>K>A (have you heard of them?) in order to force the above mentioned enosis with Greece,hence forcing the TCs to take their own actions to prepare for what was to come...In 1960 an international agreement was signed which gave Cyprus independence with the 2 major communities as founding partners...In 1963,after a bilateral attempt by the GC President Makarios to change the constitution and remove most of the rights of the TCs,a civil war errupted which resulted in the TCs withdrawal from power and exile into enclaves...A lot of TCs became refugees or immigrants during the period 1963-74,to escape a second class existence in their own country...
Unable to wait much longer for Enosis with Greece,the CNG organised a coup against Makarios and brought a self-confessed murderer and Turk-hater to power,to complement the leader of the Greek Junta<Ioannides> with whom the afore mentioned Sampson had hatched a plan to massacre all the TCs in one night some years earlier...Turkey,as a guarantor of the independence of the newfounded ROC,invaded to stop Enosis in its tracks...Now which part of this history do you have trouble understanding??? :twisted:
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Postby Bananiot » Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:13 am

It wasn't a referendum in 1950 Bir. In fact it wasn't even a vote. There was a defter in every church and you had to sign your name (for everyone to see). Of course, the eventual result of this was to scare any level headed person who might have had the slightest of doubts for enosis. Or, a person who could foresee the political repercussions for such a demand.
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Postby lovernomore » Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:09 am

B25 wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:


Yeah,sure thing...Turkey woke up one day on a fine July morning and decided it was a nice day for a little neighbourly invasion...


No, this was preplanned from the 50's you moron.

I have lost my ancestral village,my childhood was stolen,I had to leave my country


More bollocks, you never owned any of these, they were on loan to a historical bully, waiting our time to get you the fuck out.

The millionth Turkish settler is on his way to Cyprus

Blah blah fucking blah, more threats, Birk, stick them mate, we don't give a rats arse how many cockroaches you bring over, we will deal with them like any other pest.


I see a lot of GC people in the south and I speak with them many times about Cyprus problem. 99.9% of GC understand everything that happened from 1960 to the present day. They all agree the GC actions are reason for the Cyprus problem and if they could go back in time they would act different. From what I see there is about 5-10 idiots on this forum who want to rewrite Cyprus history, these idiots will not have any affect on the final result in Cyprus. So B25 it is you that talk bollocs and it is you who will get fucked in the end. If you like I come and see you in the south and we go solicitors and we make agreement, if the final result favour TC you get the fuck out of Cyprus, if it favour you I get the fuck out. Come on show me how big man you are.
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