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[Tony-4497]

Christofias was protesting that Turkish proposals were even worse than (not just "different to") the AP, which was rejected as unacceptable by 76% of GCs.

That said, his reference to the AP as well as to "established sensitive balances" in the same letter demostrate that what he is cooking up is the AP with a different name.. everyone knows he initially accepted the AP and then changed his tune when he realised it wouldn't pass (which effectively landed him the Presidency..)

The negotiations are just a farce.. Nothing more than 2 parties that both accepted the AP (Turkey and Christofias) putting on a show in order to "sell" this plan to the GCs.. with Downer in the role of the PR adviser/ scaremonger.. if and when they reach the point where they feel that a majority of GCs has "bought it", then they will run a referendum.

Unfortunately for the GC side, however, Christofias (and possibly Anastasiades) may have illusions of being great leaders and that the public will just follow them blindly into a Yes at referendum on an AP-type solution - and choose to ignore polls (all of which say the opposite). This is the greatest risk right now i.e. a second No at referendum due to a criminal and arrogant miscalculation, mainly by Christofias.

This is less of a risk as Turkey's intransigence is ensuring that even a modified AP is unlikely to go to referendum. If Turkey were clever they could have made quick compromises on key sticking points to pressure the G/Cs into accepting an improved AP. As it is, it looks like they have lost their chance by actually attempting to alter those parts of the AP they didn't want in the first place, with the result that the negotiations have stalled and they will be faced with a less compliant leader than Christofias next time.

I disagree - Turkey's objections are just a part of the farce i.e.

Christofias says "I give you rotating presidency and you get to keep all the properties in the north"

Turkey says "No way, we also want you to jump twice and then whistle"

When Turkey later removes the second requirement Christofias claims victory at negotiations and GCs vote Yes..

[Viewpoint]

Do you ever consider the fact that the international community also see GCs at fault with regards to where Cyprus is today and thats why they do not take any measures against Turkey?

THe international community has condemed turkey with its SECURITY COUNCIL Resolutions.If they find fault with the GC then then should drag the ROC to the security council and pass resolutions stating your opinion that they are at fault.

have you worked out why the international community has not come to your rescue?

[Hermes]

have you worked out why the international community has not come to your rescue?

Have you worked out why you are a total prick?

[Viewpoint]

have you worked out why the international community has not come to your rescue?

Have you worked out why you are a total prick?

answer the question you cunt.

[boulio]

have you worked out why the international community has not come to your rescue?

why should they come to the rescue of the ROC?the ROC is a EU MEMBER as well as a UN MEMBER,enjoys a very high standard of living is a modern EU democracy.Is the only recognized entity on the island.

Im sure the ROC will like to have closure to the cyprus problem however not on turkeys terms.They solution will need to be better than the current sitiuion for the ROC TO VOTE YES.not worse

So in short if there is a solution in a united cyprus with the t/c participating in the functions of a united cyprus great.If NOT things will remain the same ROC moves on,turkeys eu ascesion is stalled or stopped and the t/c disappear.

[Viewpoint]

EU member or not the result is the same no help from the international community speaks volumes to those who want to understand. Ask any TC you want to choose between becoming a minority under gc rule or the current situation and becoming Turkish the majority Would no hesitation in choosing the latter.

[paliometoxo]

my tc friend would chose leave cyprus then have to be ruled by mainland turks... him and his friends hate mainland turks...

[Viewpoint]

my tc friend would chose leave cyprus then have to be ruled by mainland turks... him and his friends hate mainland turks...

that wasnt the question.

[paliometoxo]

it was, you said ask a tc would he prefere a tc state dominated by turkey a minority but to turks, or one owned completely by gcs and of course you would say turks.. but my tc friends in the north would dis agree.. though i dont really know how they would answer, they would probably chose neither lol they hate the turks. not all tcs have your taksim split cyprus in two ideas

[boulio]

EU member or not the result is the same no help from the international community speaks volumes to those who want to understand. Ask any TC you want to choose between becoming a minority under gc rule or the current situation and becoming Turkish the majority Would no hesitation in choosing the latter.

but thats why there was a offer for a federal model for cyprus for the last 35 years.but the turks want to be rulers in the north and partners in the south.Sorry thats not happening.