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[MrH]

Turkey now needs to make a decision what it is to do on the Cyprus problem and the future of its EU application after receiving a huge lash from the Euro Parliament on the Decision of Direct Trade with Northern Cyprus. We are now clear that the "Isolation" will now NOT be lifted by the EU for the Opening of the Ports to Greek Cypriot Traffic. Also, this decision has in a way empowered Christofias' position in the Talks, thus what could the two Cypriot leaders now be discussing?

I have heard that, as the issue of isolation is no longer on the table and the two cypriot leaders have made absolutely no headway in the talks and Turkey will not open its port to GC traffic, Turkey is seriously considering removing itself form it's EU Candidate status, annexing Northern Cyprus and then placing the ball in the EU court as to whether it is worth Turkey re-applying for EU Candidate status at a later date - but based on the realities of a Partitioned Cyprus. One that sees the Island similarly to the UK and Northern Ireland. In other words, Turkey starts a new EU process but as "Turkey and Northern Cyprus".

And yes, the alternative would be for Turkey to Recognise the GC-ROC and remove its assistance to the TRNC, but do you honestly believe that that will actually happen?

[paliometoxo]

re apply? after they annex part on an eu state to turkey? muahahahah... i hope turkey do that and annex north cy

[Hermes]

In other words, Turkey starts a new EU process but as "Turkey and Northern Cyprus".

Annex Cyprus then re-apply to join the EU? I don't know who you've been listening to but they are clearly idiots.

[Piratis]

Mr.H, what you fail to understand is that it is irrelevant how you call the part of Cyprus which is illegally occupied by Turkish troops.

You can call it "trnc", you can call it "Cyprus district of Turkey" or you can call it "Wonderland". The name you give to it doesn't change the fact that this is a part of Republic of Cyprus which is illegally occupied by Turkish troops.

So what will change if you rename it from "trnc" to "Cyprus district of Turkey" is absolutely nothing. Turkey is the one which controls the occupied part of Cyprus anyways.

What I can guarantee you is that such thing will never happen, because it is not in the interests of Turkey to do such thing.


As far as the "isolation" goes, there was never such thing. TCs can trade with EU from the legal ports of Cyprus or through Turkey (and there is also the proposal of RoC for Famagusta).

The aim of the Turkish leadership regarding "direct trade" had nothing to do with any actual trade or any "isolation" and everything to do with the upgrade of the status of the pseudo state.

[shahmaran]

Or upgrade the quality of life for the locals?

Ban of direct trade and the isolation has nothing to do with the "sovereignty of the Roc".

It is all about suffocating the people here to force out as many as possible and so that you can turn around and fuck them with the "democratic" vibrator. Kind of like the "freedom" wars of the US, do something bad while looking like you are doing something good, nothing new here.

Nothing has changed since the 50s.

[Hermes]

Or upgrade the quality of life for the locals?

Ban of direct trade and the isolation has nothing to do with the "sovereignty of the Roc".

It is all about suffocating the people here to force out as many as possible...

Rubbish. Then why won't Turkey accept Christofias's proposals which would allow the north to trade legitimately through Famagusta under EU supervision?

Because it wouldn't give Turkey what it really wants: indirect recognition of the occupation regime.

[Hermes]

Nothing has changed since the 50s.

Clearly not in the way you view the Cyprus issue.

[Piratis]

Or upgrade the quality of life for the locals?

Ban of direct trade and the isolation has nothing to do with the "sovereignty of the Roc".

It is all about suffocating the people here to force out as many as possible...

Rubbish. Then why won't Turkey accept Christofias's proposals which would allow the north to trade legitimately through Famagusta under EU supervision?

Because it wouldn't give Turkey what it really wants: indirect recognition of the occupation regime.

Thats right Hermes. If what the Turkish leadership cared about was an easier way for the TCs to trade there are many legitimate ways to go about it. But what they care about is not trade or the well being of Turkish Cypriots, but ways to upgrade the status of the pseudo state.

The Turkish side rejects the proposal for Famagusta which would give them direct trade in a legal way but also would allow thousands of Greek Cypriots to return to their homes, and then they have the nerve to pretend to be the victims!

They want all their problems to be solved in their way, even if that would undermine the sovereignty of RoC, rejecting all legal alternatives, and at the same time they want to do nothing at all to alleviate the problems of GCs!

Clearly nothing changed since the 50s!

[CBBB]

Our journalist friend, PreparationH, who doesn't know one European institutions from another, is giving us the benefit of his idiocy on the stance of Turkey!

When he gets his EU, ECHR and ECJ, sorted out we might listen to him!

[Oracle]

Turkey now needs to make a decision what it is to do on the Cyprus problem and the future of its EU application after receiving a huge lash from the Euro Parliament on the Decision of Direct Trade with Northern Cyprus. We are now clear that the "Isolation" will now NOT be lifted by the EU for the Opening of the Ports to Greek Cypriot Traffic. Also, this decision has in a way empowered Christofias' position in the Talks, thus what could the two Cypriot leaders now be discussing?

I have heard that, as the issue of isolation is no longer on the table and the two cypriot leaders have made absolutely no headway in the talks and Turkey will not open its port to GC traffic, Turkey is seriously considering removing itself form it's EU Candidate status, annexing Northern Cyprus and then placing the ball in the EU court as to whether it is worth Turkey re-applying for EU Candidate status at a later date - but based on the realities of a Partitioned Cyprus. One that sees the Island similarly to the UK and Northern Ireland. In other words, Turkey starts a new EU process but as "Turkey and Northern Cyprus".

And yes, the alternative would be for Turkey to Recognise the GC-ROC and remove its assistance to the TRNC, but do you honestly believe that that will actually happen?

Looks like the message is getting through. Frustrated enough, yet, to make your biggest mistake?

Turkey, go on, try and change the EU borders by "annexation" of part of Cyprus-EU !