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7 Years of European Membership! So where is the solution?

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Postby B25 » Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:43 pm

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shahmaran wrote:Turks offer us plenty of weapons though, thats a pretty good start me thinks! :lol:

The Turkish military equipment stationed on Cyprus, I would describe as "junk to mid range"! :lol:


Yeah, but TR has Air Supremacy so it don't matter what mid level junk is in north Cyprus.

Which is why the CNG has heavily invested in state of the art S2A technology that can engage simultaneous multiple targets.


Yeah, but being in Create not on Cyprus they are not even in theatre so are no use.


You're talking about s300's he's talking about s2a's.


He's not talking S300 nor S2A's he just talks shit. A british carpetbagger who just enjoys degrading the GC side.
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Postby AWE » Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:44 pm

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shahmaran wrote:Turks offer us plenty of weapons though, thats a pretty good start me thinks! :lol:

The Turkish military equipment stationed on Cyprus, I would describe as "junk to mid range"! :lol:


Yeah, but TR has Air Supremacy so it don't matter what mid level junk is in north Cyprus.

Which is why the CNG has heavily invested in state of the art S2A technology that can engage simultaneous multiple targets.


Yeah, but being in Create not on Cyprus they are not even in theatre so are no use.


You're talking about s300's he's talking about s2a's.


He's not talking S300 nor S2A's he just talks shit. A british carpetbagger who just enjoys degrading the GC side.


S2A is short for 'Surface to Air' which include S300's amongst others. GR says "S2A technology" not a specific missile system and as the RoC's biggest investment is the S300's...
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:40 pm

AWE wrote:
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Gregory wrote:
AWE wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
AWE wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Turks offer us plenty of weapons though, thats a pretty good start me thinks! :lol:

The Turkish military equipment stationed on Cyprus, I would describe as "junk to mid range"! :lol:


Yeah, but TR has Air Supremacy so it don't matter what mid level junk is in north Cyprus.

Which is why the CNG has heavily invested in state of the art S2A technology that can engage simultaneous multiple targets.


Yeah, but being in Create not on Cyprus they are not even in theatre so are no use.


You're talking about s300's he's talking about s2a's.


He's not talking S300 nor S2A's he just talks shit. A british carpetbagger who just enjoys degrading the GC side.


S2A is short for 'Surface to Air' which include S300's amongst others. GR says "S2A technology" not a specific missile system and as the RoC's biggest investment is the S300's...

No, I wasn't referring to those but all the short range types in the CNG's inventory.
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Postby Lit » Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:14 am

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Bananiot wrote:Birkibrisli, it is a fact that fascists lose their sense of humour (or sarcasm) too (if ever they had one).




:shock: Woow, a little heavy this time of day. Why is Lit a fascist?



Because BirKibrisli has stated so and for Bananiot ... Bir's word is as true as the sky is blue.
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Postby Lit » Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:35 am

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Oracle wrote:Why are there so many Bananiot look-a-likes around the place? :?


For the simple fact that Bananiot uses sock puppets. Obviously, in order not to look like a complete nutter...he created sock puppets so that somebody, anybody can agree with him.


More people than you'd like to know agree with Bananiot.


Not in the Republic of Cyprus, thank goodness.


BirKibrisli wrote:Anyone whose head is not firmly in sand can see tht Bananiot is the supreme realist and accurate historian...


I am simply an unapologetic GREEK CYPRIOT that holds his head high. That is why you have a problem with me and those that think like me. It appears you only get along with Turkish ass lickers. Speaking of which, Bananiot is as accurate as that crack head fortune teller two blocks up my house. I give you exhibit A:

http://cyprus-forum.com/cyprus30901-10.html


BirKibrisli wrote:Those of you who keep on denying history,and wanting to reduce the Cyprus problem to one act of occupation starting in 1974 are doing Cyprrus a great disservice...You are blocking all the roads to understanding and empathy,hence ensuring there will be no solution in our lifetime...or any other time...Bananiot wisely can read the future as well...The new new world order has a big part for Turkey in the Middle East and Eastern Meditteranean region,and no outside power will lift a finger to help those fanatics hell bent on the Hellenisation of Cyprus...Time go get real indeed...Stop being bloody minded and vengeful against the TCs,agree to a livable solution fast to reunite our beloved homeland...The window of opportunity is very short,measured in a few years...miss it again,deluding yourselves with pyrric legal victories in meaningless arenas,and you are sealing the Division forever...The choice is yours!



My goodness, you spew the same drivel daily. The choice for peace is not ours to make for if it was up to us...we would have the Turkish troops removed and everyone would be able to live and work where ever they choose.

You and Bananiot are bloody hypocrites! You twits have a problem with the national guard acquiring sophisticated weaponry but have no problem with the National Guard acquiring Turkish "made" attack helicopters. I give you exhibit B:

http://cyprus-forum.com/cyprus31698.html

Again, you like Bananiot because he is a Turkish ass kisser...plain and simple. You believe you can only negotiate with Turkish ass kissers or there will be no solution in our lifetime because you won the war in 74 and we in the RoC must see the realities on the ground. Sir, go fuck yourself and your wet dreams about Turkey's neo Ottoman role in the middle east. Here are the realities i see:

The European Parliament Committee on Legal Affairs approved on Monday with 18 votes in favour, five against and one abstention the opinion of the European Parliament`s Legal Service, that the legal basis of the Commission`s regulation on direct trade between the EU and Cyprus` Turkish occupied areas is wrong and that the proper legal basis is Article 1(2) of the Treaty of Accession`s Protocol No 10 between Cyprus and the EU, signed in April 2003.


And don't ever talk to me about fanatics when you support holding a whole city in hostage as a bargaining chip. Are we clear?


We are clear all right...You have your head firmly in the sand,you are delusional,you cannot understand what people are saying,or you pretend not to..And you are on the path of delivering Cyprus to Turkey on a plate...I have no wet dreams about new-Ottomanism...I and a few others on this forum,including Bananiot,can see where the world is heading. I consider it my patriotic duty as a Cypriot to warn you...On the global scale,the economic and strategic balance is changing in Turkey's favour...
You can keep denying it and insult everyone who warns you about it all you like...It will not change the realities.If you insist on your fascist 50s Hellenic ideology of dominating and ruling the TCs,refusing to share power with them no matter what,you are simply playing into Turkey's hands,making the division along the present lines permanent...Once again,Turkey has no intension of joining the EU...She is using Cyprus to prolong the agony...The sooner you wake up the better...


You repeatedly spew the same drivel daily hoping amongst all hope that someone other than your clique will take you seriously. Let me tell you that I do not care what you have to say about Turkey's new role in the middle east. I do not care what you have to say about Hellenism. Who are those screaming about Hellenisim fooling?

Turks of Cyprus like Mr. Alparslan Türkes helped form the "Turkish Federative State of Cyprus".... now called the "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus" which is protected by the "Cyprus Turkish Peace Force".

Turks of Cyprus use the "Turkish Lira" and like to fly the "Cyprus Turkish Airlines" to fly over a mountain with the BIGGEST Turkish flag in the world.

"Turks of Cyprus" go to the following colleges: "Türk Maarif Koleji" ... "Güzelyurt Türk Maarif Koleji" ... "19 Mayis Türk Maarif Koleji"

And they love their "Cyprus Turkish Football Federation" and watch the following football clubs play: Çetinkaya Türk ...Küçük Kaymakli Türk ... Magusa Türk Gücü ... Türkmenköy ... Dogan Turk Birligi and Turk Ocagi.

Be weary of Turks from Cyprus screaming about Hellenism for it is only a smokescreen to distract and cover the brutal reality of how they have successfully Turkified the area they call "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus". For it is they who have always wanted to live in two separate States:

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2009-08-02
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:18 pm

The word Turkish has been associated with those institutions for as long as I remember...It is nothing new...It was in response to the GC community's demand for Enosis with Greece,which goes back to 1821...
What did you expect the TCs to do???Lay back and watch their country be given away to another country they considered their historical enemy???

Once the genie was out of the bottle,once the word Enosis was pronounced,it was like a red rag to a bull...The TCs had no other option but to organise themselves around their Turkishness...We can talk about the chicken and the egg situation till cows come home...As far as I am concerned thre are no "Turks of Cyprus"...There are Turkish Cypriots and Turkish settlers...The settlers are on their way of becoming the "new" Turkish Cypriots,thanks to the bloodyminded obstinacy of the fanatical GCs and their self serving politicians...I will keep spewing my "drivel" till the reality gets into the thick skulls of people like yourself...Keep on denying history,keep on denying the plight of the TCs during the 50s and the 60s,keep on insisting on your maximum demands,and you will kiss goodbye to 37% of Cyprus...Your consolation prize will be that a small percentage of the Real TCs,including myself, would morn the loss of their unique cultural identity...You can tell your children one day how you managed to stop those pesty TCs from sharing power with you,by tearing up the agreement which you signed to gain your independence...You can explain to them how bravely you fought for Enosis with Greece for so long,how much you wanted the Hellenisation of Cyprus...You can tell them it was worth sacrificing 37% of Cyprus so as not to treat the pesty TCs as your equals in the RoC...You will then go down on your knees and pray they forgive you...Your children I mean not the pesty TCs... :twisted:
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Postby boomerang » Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:32 pm

the gcs agreed to a federation, with the minority even in your own domain...but thats not good enough for you, you want confederation...

you want empathy sympathy compassion, for what the tcs suffered, where are those words when the gcs tell you no more fucking turkey guarantees...see if you can connect the dots as to why the gcs say no to turkey guarantees...

you say show empathy, sympathy and compassion and the tcs would be drawn to gsc...this is where the argument stops and the bullshit begins...
1...eroglu and everyone elected puts turkey's interest first
2...you are a minority now fast becoming extinct, thanks to one turk leaves 10 arrive the last 36 years...under whose rights can you make such statements when if it came to a vote amongst yourselfs, you have no voice?...

so how can you make such statements, when it runs contrary to turkey's policy...

you declared your state, your leader and turkey speak about 2 people, 2 states, 2 democrcies, etc...with this attitude how can you claim any rights to anything found in the roc?...and further more the tcs argument is the roc has no rights to any drilling, but here we are the tcs and turkey signing agreements on oil exploration...and you want trust... :wink:

if you had any power as tcs, you would have seen the picasso on the mountains and the harm it does...but then again your powerless...and you want everyone to take you seriously?...

there was a time when i would say get rid of the picasso, for peace sake...but niw I say keep the picasso, it's doing wonders exposing tc/turkey mindset when dignitaries visit the island...and from the bottom of my heart i thank you for advancing our cause...

the tc standard of living was raised once the gates opened...how come before the gates opened you were flicking flies of walls?...how come your motherland dragged you to the bottom of the barrell...oh yeah they came to save you with backwardness...

as we are told time and time again, 2 of this and 2 of that, i think it speaks volumes who is pursuing extinction...

you want trust...start earning it...

keep on insisting on maximalist demands signing your own extinction...

what you want is legalize the illegal...ain't gonna happen and if in the mean time you disappear, this will be your own doing, coz again as we are told, on the island we have 2 of this and 2 of that and each one is responcible for their 1 of this and 1 of that...
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Postby georgios100 » Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:34 pm

Cyprus had to join the EU for economic & security reasons. Being a small nation could easily be invaded & destroyed by bigger enemies in the region. It is true, we expected to see better or quicker results from the EU relating to Cyprob but in time, our EU accession will pay off.

Which other alliance could we join? The Arab League or the African congress? Think about it... EU was the only option.

I have the feeling that the vast majority of the TC community wants an end to the ongoing division of the island. Deep in their hearts, the true Turkish Cypriots (not the settlers or mainland Turks) want to be Cypriot citizens, not Turkey's citizens. TCs are not stupid. They know, the RoC is the way to go, not Turkey.

The fact that they voted for Eroglu does not mean the TCs want 2 separate states but just a different leader besides Talat who might get the job done. Voting for a separatist leader does not represent a gallup poll result in favor of a 2 state solution. Besides, Talat & the other political parties of the north want BBF, a well known fact.

What is sad is the hard line Turk posters on this board, inflame the discussion and inject venom between the two communities.

These hardliners in question DO NOT REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF THE TC POPULATION and , therefor, only speak for themselves.
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Postby shahmaran » Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:38 pm

georgios100 wrote:Cyprus had to join the EU for economic & security reasons. Being a small nation could easily be invaded & destroyed by bigger enemies in the region. It is true, we expected to see better or quicker results from the EU relating to Cyprob but in time, our EU accession will pay off.

Which other alliance could we join? The Arab League or the African congress? Think about it... EU was the only option.

I have the feeling that the vast majority of the TC community wants an end to the ongoing division of the island. Deep in their hearts, the true Turkish Cypriots (not the settlers or mainland Turks) want to be Cypriot citizens, not Turkey's citizens. TCs are not stupid. They know, the RoC is the way to go, not Turkey.

The fact that they voted for Eroglu does not mean the TCs want 2 separate states but just a different leader besides Talat who might get the job done. Voting for a separatist leader does not represent a gallup poll result in favor of a 2 state solution. Besides, Talat & the other political parties of the north want BBF, a well known fact.

What is sad is the hard line Turk posters on this board, inflame the discussion and inject venom between the two communities.

These hardliners in question DO NOT REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF THE TC POPULATION and , therefor, only speak for themselves.


I have not met 1 TC that wishes to be united as a single state under GC rule.

I think you blew that along with the Annan Plan, it won't happen again.
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Postby boomerang » Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:42 pm

end of the day they are outnumbered, and manipulated to what turkey wants...on top of that they in debt to turkey for all the money turkey sunk into the north and nothing to show for...all the money was lining pockets...

preventing tc extinction, moving to the free areas is the only option...or start demanding the rights under the 1960 agreenents...but thats not gonna happen coz of the settlers...

another way is for a true federation, democracy and rule of law...unwillingless to accept this is a sure sign of their extinction...

they need to stop with their maximalist demands, coz they should know by now it's not gonna get them anything...apart from extinction...
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