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[miltiades]

The greatest achievement that Cyprus has had in its entire history was its membership to the EU , the most successful ever union of nations . Had Britain not been so bloody small minded and became a leading force within the EU then much more progress could be made but typical of Britain in being such a narrow minded nation that thinks , and actually believes , that we still have our own unique ....sovereignty . Bollocks to that mate we gave it and still are giving it away , if we have any left , to the third world shit that we bent over backwards to placate !!!

Yeah never mind winning your independence for the first time in your entire existence, but the greatest achievement is entering some cheesy club??

I hate the way your mind works milti! You would not have entered the EU if you did not have a country to begin with!!

The guy has a point though, so what if you are in the EU?

You are still divided and still in shit!

The EU is recognized the world over and has powers that are for ever increasing for the good of Europe and for world stability.
Cypriot independence was a direct product of the struggle against imperialist Britain , it was a form of independence that was meant to break down as indeed it did. Independence while giving Turkey , Greece and Britain rights over the destiny of this nation, a water down independence as we now have found out to our cost.
Cyprus as a part of the EU is a fully fledged independent nation and in time the foreign motherland lovers will recognize the need to ditch the foreign influences that have caused so much suffering to our people.

[Hermes]

The guy has a point though, so what if you are in the EU?

You are still divided and still in shit!

Is that why Turkey is in a hurry to sell off its "assets" in the north and make a run for it before it throws any more money down the TRNC toilet?

[Viewpoint]

Then how do you explain why Turkey is buying GC assets via the İPC?

[shahmaran]

The guy has a point though, so what if you are in the EU?

You are still divided and still in shit!

Is that why Turkey is in a hurry to sell off its "assets" in the north and make a run for it before it throws any more money down the TRNC toilet?

Thats not a very good theory.

CTA was not a "Turkish asset".

The 220 Million dollar Crotus recently opened should be a good example that no one is really trying to "get out", plus the other one in Karpaz and lets not forget the marina they are building there also, oh yeah and the Disneyland thinggy they got planned, etc. etc...

[Hermes]

The guy has a point though, so what if you are in the EU?

You are still divided and still in shit!

Is that why Turkey is in a hurry to sell off its "assets" in the north and make a run for it before it throws any more money down the TRNC toilet?

Thats not a very good theory.

CTA was not a "Turkish asset".

The 220 Million dollar Crotus recently opened should be a good example that no one is really trying to "get out", plus the other one in Karpaz and lets not forget the marina they are building there also, oh yeah and the Disneyland thinggy they got planned, etc. etc...

Oh dear. Are you referring to the hotel that nobody refuses to perform in? The one built on Greek Cypriot land? Like all the rest. I can see a lawsuit coming...

I think the "Disneyland thingy" you refer to is being built in Larnaca by the way.

[PENPOINT]

But they are still there... Nobody seems to be Willing Ready or Able to move the Turks away and that's if we like it or not. Europe can do NOTHING and this has been proved for at least the past 7 years that Cyprus is a full member, let alone the past. Greece has not and will not do anything simply because the Greeks are NOT interested and the British are simply....British|! Remember what they did with Israel and the Palaestinians....
So if you really believe that there is still a European torch lit over any solution, even if the status quo remains, you better change the side you are sleeping because you overslept...
The point is that the Europeans have done nothing and it seems that we better start thinking of cooperating with the Turks. Isn't this what the British have done with the Germans after 1945?

[shahmaran]

The guy has a point though, so what if you are in the EU?

You are still divided and still in shit!

Is that why Turkey is in a hurry to sell off its "assets" in the north and make a run for it before it throws any more money down the TRNC toilet?

Thats not a very good theory.

CTA was not a "Turkish asset".

The 220 Million dollar Crotus recently opened should be a good example that no one is really trying to "get out", plus the other one in Karpaz and lets not forget the marina they are building there also, oh yeah and the Disneyland thinggy they got planned, etc. etc...

Oh dear. Are you referring to the hotel that nobody refuses to perform in? The one built on Greek Cypriot land? Like all the rest. I can see a lawsuit coming...

I think the "Disneyland thingy" you refer to is being built in Larnaca by the way.

You have only managed to block Jeylo, but many others have already slipped by and performed while you sleep, it was never about the hotel anyways. They got other performers instead, other performances take place in other hotels and clubs and you cannot stop them all.

Plus Crotus held a cage fight the other week I believe.

[Get Real!]

But they are still there... Nobody seems to be Willing Ready or Able to move the Turks away and that's if we like it or not. Europe can do NOTHING and this has been proved for at least the past 7 years that Cyprus is a full member, let alone the past. Greece has not and will not do anything simply because the Greeks are NOT interested and the British are simply....British|! Remember what they did with Israel and the Palaestinians....
So if you really believe that there is still a European torch lit over any solution, even if the status quo remains, you better change the side you are sleeping because you overslept...
The point is that the Europeans have done nothing and it seems that we better start thinking of cooperating with the Turks. Isn't this what the British have done with the Germans after 1945?

And given all the above what do you suggest?

[Bananiot]

Like spoilt brats we expect everybody else to do something for us. We are quick to label people and countries and this has been going on in Cyprus since time internal. In reality, we have brought this calamity on by ourselves with our stupid options and now we have the nerve to demand others to come to our assistance.

I have news for you PENPOINT. This is not how things work. In the real world someone might come to your assistance if he has something to gain. It has always been like this. What can Cyprus offer that Turkey can't? Of course, we should have thought about this before we embarked on a doomed mission to unite Cyprus with Greece, without taking into consideration the interests of the people who ruled this part of the world. In doing so, we committed tragic mistakes and above all, crimes against innocent GS's and TC's.

We are now paying the bill for all those mistakes.

[ZoC]

The point is that the Europeans have done nothing and it seems that we better start thinking of cooperating with the Turks. Isn't this what the British have done with the Germans after 1945?

couldn't agree more... but first the krauts did this.