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[MrH]

Hi all,

I would like to Start this new debate based on the "Direct Trade Regulation" with Northern Cyprus by approaching it from a different angle.

We ALL Know that the EU Parliament may reject the coming decision for the Direct Trade Regulation (DTR) with Northern Cyprus, but what is so important about Feb 2011? Turkey has indicated that with the possible Rejection of the DTR, including the rejection of the Annan Plan as well in 2004, it may use this scenario to "integrate" Northern Cyprus with the Republic of Turkey until such a regulation (the DTR) is one day passed. On the other hand, it must also be said that many EU Parliamentarians have been itching for this moment to arrive in order to end this Cyprus curse it so prematurely adopted in 2004.

Isn't it also amazing how the Turkish PM and Christofias are meeting?What could that mean? And, under what basis are these two leaders meeting? I find it strange indeed.

I'm only asking my GC compatriots so please hold your horses before blasting. I am wondering if Christofias has something up his sleeve!

Let's think about this for a moment, he (Christofias) knows he's on his way out of Parliament, He knows the Direct Trade Regulation of Northern Cyprus would also pave the way (if passed) for the Recognition of the GC-ROC by Turkey, thus opening the doors to a flood of business opportunities particularly via Russia as well (through Turkey). Let's put aside the anger and even the resentment of our bloody history for one second and think about Economics. I am cautiously optimistic that the Direct Trade Regulation will pass, I too highly doubt it as I know how indecisive and how much they tend to side with their Christian lovers (typical double standards), but, due to the Democratic voting structure founded by the recent signing of the Lisbon treaty, where it's been noted that this may be the EU's Chance in avoiding a possible crash in the Cyprus problem, the EU may chose to take a different turn and end this fiasco. In short, the EU, if it weights its pros and cons in a rationale way, may find it easier to stomach a Temporary lashing by the Greek Cypriots than being permanently blamed for destroying the Cyprus Talks by the United Nations!

REUTERS


06:58 18Oct2010 PRESS DIGEST - Cyprus - Oct 18

NICOSIA, Oct 18 (Reuters) - Leading reports in Greek Cypriot financial and general press. Reuters has not verified these reports:

PHILELEFTHEROS
- Complaints flood in over the trade of Turkish goods via ceasefire line.
- Violence on the soccer pitch reared its head once again after derby match.

SIMERINI
- Preparations underway in Athens for Cyprus President Demetris Christofias to meet Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan to discuss the Cyprus issue.

- EU parliament's legal commission to decide on the direct trade regulation with the Turkish-held north of Cyprus.

- Optimistic plans to boost support for pensioners in the pipeline.

POLITIS
- Cypriot leaders urged to find convergences on the property issue in peace talks, which will then set the tone for the U.N. secretary-general's much-awaited report in November.
- Police said more young people drinking and driving within the legal limit this year compared to last year.

HARAVGHI
- Government hopeful that EU regulation for direct trade with the Turkish-held north will be rejected.

((Nicosia newsroom 357 22469674 fax 357 22662487))
Keywords: CYPRUS PRESS/
Monday, 18 October 2010 06:58:22RTRS [nLDE69H03O] {C}ENDS

[MrH]

The Greek Cypriots and Greece were recently Shocked when the EU dug deep into their hearts and recognised the Republic of Kosovo. The Direct Trade Regulation vote on Northern Cyprus, which we all know is only based on the Economics and humanitarian rights of this tiny statelet, may prove how the EU may have changed its historical stance against the muslim world by adopting a fair platform for world peace, and raise the profile of the EU parliament in front of other world nations and organisations. You may think that this decision is a simple one, but I believe it carries a huge responsibility.

[Hermes]

Hi all,

I would like to Start this new debate based on the "Direct Trade Regulation" with Northern Cyprus by approaching it from a different angle.

Oh give it up. There is no "new angle". Just the same old stuck record. The EU will not and cannot adopt the "direct trade regulation" as it is illegal and infringes the sovereignty of the ROC. Moreover, EU parliamentarians are not "itching for this moment to arrive in order to end this Cyprus curse it so prematurely adopted in 2004." This is just delusional fantasy. Most are bloody grateful we're keeping Turkey from joining the EU.

So stop your ludicrous fantasies and wild conjectures. It ain't going to happen. Nobody on the Greek side is interested. If you want to talk about a sensible proposal look at Christofias's suggestion for opening the port of Famagusta under EU supervision. That is what Christofias intends to talk to Erdogan about at any supposed meeting.

[CBBB]

Hi all,

I would like to Start this new debate based on the "Direct Trade Regulation" with Northern Cyprus by approaching it from a different angle.

We ALL Know that the EU Parliament may reject the coming decision for the Direct Trade Regulation (DTR) with Northern Cyprus, but what is so important about Feb 2011? Turkey has indicated that with the possible Rejection of the DTR, including the rejection of the Annan Plan as well in 2004, it may use this scenario to "integrate" Northern Cyprus with the Republic of Turkey until such a regulation (the DTR) is one day passed. On the other hand, it must also be said that many EU Parliamentarians have been itching for this moment to arrive in order to end this Cyprus curse it so prematurely adopted in 2004.

Isn't it also amazing how the Turkish PM and Christofias are meeting?What could that mean? And, under what basis are these two leaders meeting? I find it strange indeed.

I'm only asking my GC compatriots so please hold your horses before blasting. I am wondering if Christofias has something up his sleeve!

Let's think about this for a moment, he (Christofias) knows he's on his way out of Parliament, He knows the Direct Trade Regulation of Northern Cyprus would also pave the way (if passed) for the Recognition of the GC-ROC by Turkey, thus opening the doors to a flood of business opportunities particularly via Russia as well (through Turkey). Let's put aside the anger and even the resentment of our bloody history for one second and think about Economics. I am cautiously optimistic that the Direct Trade Regulation will pass, I too highly doubt it as I know how indecisive and how much they tend to side with their Christian lovers (typical double standards), but, due to the Democratic voting structure founded by the recent signing of the Lisbon treaty, where it's been noted that this may be the EU's Chance in avoiding a possible crash in the Cyprus problem, the EU may chose to take a different turn and end this fiasco. In short, the EU, if it weights its pros and cons in a rationale way, may find it easier to stomach a Temporary lashing by the Greek Cypriots than being permanently blamed for destroying the Cyprus Talks by the United Nations!

REUTERS


06:58 18Oct2010 PRESS DIGEST - Cyprus - Oct 18

NICOSIA, Oct 18 (Reuters) - Leading reports in Greek Cypriot financial and general press. Reuters has not verified these reports:

PHILELEFTHEROS
- Complaints flood in over the trade of Turkish goods via ceasefire line.
- Violence on the soccer pitch reared its head once again after derby match.

SIMERINI
- Preparations underway in Athens for Cyprus President Demetris Christofias to meet Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan to discuss the Cyprus issue.

- EU parliament's legal commission to decide on the direct trade regulation with the Turkish-held north of Cyprus.

- Optimistic plans to boost support for pensioners in the pipeline.

POLITIS
- Cypriot leaders urged to find convergences on the property issue in peace talks, which will then set the tone for the U.N. secretary-general's much-awaited report in November.
- Police said more young people drinking and driving within the legal limit this year compared to last year.

HARAVGHI
- Government hopeful that EU regulation for direct trade with the Turkish-held north will be rejected.

((Nicosia newsroom 357 22469674 fax 357 22662487))
Keywords: CYPRUS PRESS/
Monday, 18 October 2010 06:58:22RTRS [nLDE69H03O] {C}ENDS

Approach it from any angle you like, because it ain't happening!

[MrH]

Hermes wrote:

Oh give it up. There is no "new angle". Just the same old stuck record. The EU will not and cannot adopt the "direct trade regulation" as it is illegal and infringes the sovereignty of the ROC. Moreover, EU parliamentarians are not "itching for this moment to arrive in order to end this Cyprus curse it so prematurely adopted in 2004." This is just delusional fantasy. Most are bloody grateful we're keeping Turkey from joining the EU.

So stop your ludicrous fantasies and wild conjectures. It ain't going to happen. Nobody on the Greek side is interested. If you want to talk about a sensible proposal look at Christofias's suggestion for opening the port of Famagusta under EU supervision. That is what Christofias intends to talk to Erdogan about at any supposed meeting.

So does Taiwan, but they are allowed to still Trade Directly. They are not a recognised state! Kosovo is not in agreement with the two "Greek" states, but the EU still adopted a different stance. Just because YOU say it, does not mean it's the truth. Surely if what the Greek Cypriots so desperately demand as being the truth was accepted by all, why then has so many countries adopted good relations with the TRNC (I'm not saying Recognised here, only relations - like the TC Consul in Bedford Square UK....and etc, etc). And Why is Turkey still an EU Candidate after it has so called committed so much wrong, in the Greek Cypriot eyes only, on the Cyprus problem. Because there are always TWO sides to a story. And your story is losing weight, particularly after the lies prior to the April 2004 Annan Plan referendum and vehement opposition with anything to do with the Turkish Cypriot people.

We will see what the outcome is. However, regardless of this process and decision being positive or negative, the fact that the Direct Trade Regulation is being discussed at the Highest EU level is a step forward!

[halil]

Taiwan has industry .....do we have industry in TRNC ? no.... than how we are going to be second Taiwan.......... who ever believes it XXXXXX

[Me Ed]

What differentiates the "trnc" from Kosovo and Taiwan is that it is a result of ethnic cleansing, the UN knows this, the EU knows this - this is why the best you will ever get with your current stance is the status quo.

[Hermes]

We will see what the outcome is. However, regardless of this process and decision being positive or negative, the fact that the Direct Trade Regulation is being discussed at the Highest EU level is a step forward!

I guess it's a step forward that the Turkish authorities now know that "direct trade" isn't going to happen and the authorities in the north will now have to look at legal proposals for trading with Europe. Combine this with the ban on direct flights and we can safely say that the "direct trade " issue is dead as a dodo. So things have been clarified and for that I suppose we should be grateful.

[boulio]

MR H why not go with the Christofias proposal,more one to see turks comprimise would be refreshing.ALL SIDES win win.

[MrH]

You make me laugh with how much of a Lack of understanding about EU affairs and the elements of the new Lisbon you have. Answer this: What happens to those Countries whom have Agreed and Support the DTR? What if Italy and Spain let's say Support the DTR? Well, according to the Lisbon treaty that has been stuck up your lack of understanding, THOSE individual countries will be able to establish Official Trade links with Northern Cyprus independently. You see my fellow compatriots, it is NOT the Vote that counts, but the MERE Fact that it's reached this level.