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[georgios100]

And what will the GCs give in return?

Sorry for not responding right away... I went out for a couple of hours.

The GCs will give nothing.

If a solution is reached the The RoC (not the GCs) shall provide:

1. Legality & recognitions as equal citizens of the Republic.
2. European standard of living.
3. Decent education & health care for your families.
4. Freedom of speech, writing, travelling etc.
5. All benefits enjoyed at the moment by the GC side only.
6. A million of other advantages... too many to mention.

What you don't see is the role of the RoC. The RoC is the legal authority of all Cypriots, no matter which side of the "border" you live. For now, the Turkish troops are stopping you from having all of the above. You think the troops provide security... I think the troops secure a large jailhouse full of prisoners deprived of their right to live their lives to the fullest possible. Remember, the TCs are CYPRIOTS, just like the GCs.

There is talk about annexing, partitioning etc which means independence from the RoC. I doubt, the majority of the TC people want that. Perhaps some of the TC members of this board take objection to that & maintain a hardliner stance but definitely do not represent nor express the opinion of the whole TC community.

Some of us like to live abroad like Britain, Canada, Australia, USA etc. These countries have fundamental differences in the way of life for their citizens but , for sure, a no mans land situation if preferred by anyone.

Blinded by 60 years of terrible events between the 2 communities, the solution seems to be far away or impossible. What's done is done. Rather than crying & complaining & threatening & insulting, both sides must look forward, not backwards. If the solution is found by the end of this year, our grandchildren, 100 years from now, would be wondering why it took us 60 years to figure out how to live together and only consider us as narrow minded or stubborn. How else can you explain the current situation?

[paliometoxo]

mpravo re giwrko very well put

[shahmaran]

And what will the GCs give in return?

Sorry for not responding right away... I went out for a couple of hours.

The GCs will give nothing.

If a solution is reached the The RoC (not the GCs) shall provide:

1. Legality & recognitions as equal citizens of the Republic.
2. European standard of living.
3. Decent education & health care for your families.
4. Freedom of speech, writing, travelling etc.
5. All benefits enjoyed at the moment by the GC side only.
6. A million of other advantages... too many to mention.

What you don't see is the role of the RoC. The RoC is the legal authority of all Cypriots, no matter which side of the "border" you live. For now, the Turkish troops are stopping you from having all of the above. You think the troops provide security... I think the troops secure a large jailhouse full of prisoners deprived of their right to live their lives to the fullest possible. Remember, the TCs are CYPRIOTS, just like the GCs.

There is talk about annexing, partitioning etc which means independence from the RoC. I doubt, the majority of the TC people want that. Perhaps some of the TC members of this board take objection to that & maintain a hardliner stance but definitely do not represent nor express the opinion of the whole TC community.

Some of us like to live abroad like Britain, Canada, Australia, USA etc. These countries have fundamental differences in the way of life for their citizens but , for sure, a no mans land situation if preferred by anyone.

Blinded by 60 years of terrible events between the 2 communities, the solution seems to be far away or impossible. What's done is done. Rather than crying & complaining & threatening & insulting, both sides must look forward, not backwards. If the solution is found by the end of this year, our grandchildren, 100 years from now, would be wondering why it took us 60 years to figure out how to live together and only consider us as narrow minded or stubborn. How else can you explain the current situation?

Well dude, you are welcome to print this on some high quality papirus, roll it up and slip it up your arse!

We are not going anywhere, so you can be as "legal" as you wish

[shahmaran]

lol and the half a million turkish army will just sit there and do nothing if the roc army where to try anything? the roc army wont attack any more then the turkish or tc army will 40 thousand plus all males in the north doing army. where did i see there is over a million ppl in the north now and all of those males doing 19 months in the army. that s abig army your left with even if the turkish one goes home

That is the biggest delusion Turkey has imposed on us so far buddy.

It was never about us being "Turkish", they only saved the land, not the people.

So if we cut all ties, I see very little reason for them to come back again.

We need their force.

[georgios100]

And what will the GCs give in return?

Sorry for not responding right away... I went out for a couple of hours.

The GCs will give nothing.

If a solution is reached the The RoC (not the GCs) shall provide:

1. Legality & recognitions as equal citizens of the Republic.
2. European standard of living.
3. Decent education & health care for your families.
4. Freedom of speech, writing, travelling etc.
5. All benefits enjoyed at the moment by the GC side only.
6. A million of other advantages... too many to mention.

What you don't see is the role of the RoC. The RoC is the legal authority of all Cypriots, no matter which side of the "border" you live. For now, the Turkish troops are stopping you from having all of the above. You think the troops provide security... I think the troops secure a large jailhouse full of prisoners deprived of their right to live their lives to the fullest possible. Remember, the TCs are CYPRIOTS, just like the GCs.

There is talk about annexing, partitioning etc which means independence from the RoC. I doubt, the majority of the TC people want that. Perhaps some of the TC members of this board take objection to that & maintain a hardliner stance but definitely do not represent nor express the opinion of the whole TC community.

Some of us like to live abroad like Britain, Canada, Australia, USA etc. These countries have fundamental differences in the way of life for their citizens but , for sure, a no mans land situation if preferred by anyone.

Blinded by 60 years of terrible events between the 2 communities, the solution seems to be far away or impossible. What's done is done. Rather than crying & complaining & threatening & insulting, both sides must look forward, not backwards. If the solution is found by the end of this year, our grandchildren, 100 years from now, would be wondering why it took us 60 years to figure out how to live together and only consider us as narrow minded or stubborn. How else can you explain the current situation?

Well dude, you are welcome to print this on some high quality papirus, roll it up and slip it up your arse!

We are not going anywhere, so you can be as "legal" as you wish

So you prefer to be "illegal" ?

Is this your personal preference or do you convey a message from the whole TC community? Judging from "We are not going anywhere", as you wrote, I presume you are mainland Turk. If so, what business do you have, speaking on behalf of the TCs? It's like, a mainland Greek is telling us (the Cypriots) what to do. We don't like Greeks stirring our milkshake so why are you sticking your nose into TC affairs?

If I was you, I would keep opinions like this to my self.

[Viewpoint]

When weighing up what you are offering just doesnt cut it the 'RoC' for us is long dead so seeing that we to just like your has the right reject what you have put on the table. We support a bbf with political equality of the two sides just as do the EU.

[shahmaran]

When weighing up what you are offering just doesnt cut it the 'RoC' for us is long dead so seeing that we to just like your has the right reject what you have put on the table. We support a bbf with political equality of the two sides just as do the EU.

I just love his "this is our island so either take what we give you or fuck off" attitude

Really, it is the source of all problems, don't you think?

[MrH]

georgios100
Sorry mate, the Ball is certainly Not and Never will be in Erdogan's Court. You obviously forget that Erdogan used to be the Mayor of Istanbul a while ago - he know the Bull the Greeks come out with and the Historical Dream world they claim. Return of what? Did I hear you say Varosha? You guys are funny.

[Hermes]

We support a bbf with political equality of the two sides just as do the EU.

With no permanent derogations from EU law. Don't forget that bit.

[georgios100]

georgios100
Sorry mate, the Ball is certainly Not and Never will be in Erdogan's Court. You obviously forget that Erdogan used to be the Mayor of Istanbul a while ago - he know the Bull the Greeks come out with and the Historical Dream world they claim. Return of what? Did I hear you say Varosha? You guys are funny.

Yeah, I know. Erdogan came from a poor family... selling stuff on the street to survive. Nothing wrong about that.

Erdogan also knows that Varoshia must be given back - eventually, otherwise there can be No EU entry - no funny stuff - as you mentioned above.

Am I funny? Maybe. But, go tell the Europeans that you captured Varoshia by war, claim that the city is yours now and demand entry into the EU. Do you actually think the Europeans are that stupid? Really?

History tells us, Turkey never surrendered captured land unless beaten and forced out. This time, Turkey will gladly give back the occupied areas without losing them by warfare... times change don't they?