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[lola-tulip]

[~] it would call into question its own role as “guardian of the Treaties.

Hallo Hermes

Do you know how the DT proposal came to be considered by the EC?

[Get Real!]

[~] it would call into question its own role as “guardian of the Treaties.

Hallo Hermes

Do you know how the DT proposal came to be considered by the EC?

It’s always the Brits and the Americans who keep backstabbing Cyprus.

[humanist]

I think someone is chocking on the peanuts form their own shit

[vaughanwilliams]

Direct Trade Ruled Illegal

But that’s only because it’s been replaced with the Direct Cucumber…

So, in 2004 when the EU said the TCs wouldn't be left out after voting yes to the AP, were they:

a. Lying?
or
b. Promising something they could never deliver?

If a, can they ever be trusted by TCs again?
If b, ditto?

Nothing official was ever agreed by the EU!

One or two naïve EU ministers such as Gunter Verheugen, were sucked into the lies, sobbing, and bribes of “Turkish Cypriot” scoundrels which made the ministers make some dumb statements in the media only to be gotten rid off by the EU not too long after! The “TCs” are full of shit as per usual!

Sounds like it's the EU that's full of shit, to me.

[lola-tulip]

[~] it would call into question its own role as “guardian of the Treaties.

Hallo Hermes

Do you know how the DT proposal came to be considered by the EC?

It’s always the Brits and the Americans who keep backstabbing Cyprus.

Would this be through some mode of corruption of the EC role?

[Get Real!]

[~] it would call into question its own role as “guardian of the Treaties.

Hallo Hermes

Do you know how the DT proposal came to be considered by the EC?

It’s always the Brits and the Americans who keep backstabbing Cyprus.

Would this be through some mode of corruption of the EC role?

It was via the US’ stupid notion that an Islamic corrupt state like Turkey could ever be trusted with anything, but they have since seen Erdogan’s shit hit the fan!

[Hermes]

"Turkish Cypriots have every right to be angry with those European Commissioners"
"under EU supervision"

Eh? The two don't really go together, do they?

So, having shafted the TCs at least once, you want them to trust the EU with Famagusta Port?

Some EU Commissioners have behaved disgracefully. They believed what Turkey told them that it would be in the interests of the Turkish Cypriots to implement "direct trade". These people were acting in the interests of Turkey not the T/Cs. They thought they could impose direct trade against the wishes of the ROC and in defiance of international law. It was stupid and arrogant beyond belief. You shouldn't confuse these naive fools with the EU as a whole. Also, Turkish Cypriots should know better than to think they can defy international law. You only heard what you wanted to hear. Time to move on.

[Get Real!]

As a sidenote:

A couple of months later, Gunter Verheugen went on to get caught with his PA in a sex scandal and dismissed from all official postings.

[vaughanwilliams]

"Turkish Cypriots have every right to be angry with those European Commissioners"
"under EU supervision"

Eh? The two don't really go together, do they?

So, having shafted the TCs at least once, you want them to trust the EU with Famagusta Port?

Some EU Commissioners have behaved disgracefully. They believed what Turkey told them that it would be in the interests of the Turkish Cypriots to implement "direct trade". These people were acting in the interests of Turkey not the T/Cs. They thought they could impose direct trade against the wishes of the ROC and in defiance of international law. It was stupid and arrogant beyond belief. You shouldn't confuse these naive fools with the EU as a whole. Also, Turkish Cypriots should know better than to think they can defy international law. You only heard what you wanted to hear. Time to move on.

Time to move on, indeed. As to where the TRNC moves on to - that remains to be seen.

[boomerang]

It wasn't the TCs that misunderstood, it was the EU that implied DTA was possible. In which case, they either lied, knowing it wasn't possible, or they promised something they didn't know they couldn't deliver.

It should have been made clear at the outset that "direct trade" was in violation of international law. Turkish Cypriots have every right to be angry with those European Commissioners who have tried to push "direct trade" as a possibility - most recently in order to pressure Greek Cypriots in the negotiations. Turkey must also take its share of the blame for using the direct trade issue for its own ends. In the process it has prevented T/Cs from trading through the legal ports of the Republic at the expense of T/Cs.

Direct trade was never on the cards and raised T/Cs hopes unnecessarily. Now that it's been clarified I hope T/Cs can move on and look at ways to develop the economy of the north through integration and unity and not through separation. The ROC's recent proposals on using the port of Famagusta under EU supervision are a good place to start.

paps told them from day one...they didn't believe him...now they found the hard way...and now they are complaining...go figure...