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[boomerang]

Our people now speak proper Turkish and with the correct acsent. We are conditioned. Thank god. We no longer use phony Greek words for Coat, slippers and "Re" and "Ra".

not lond ago i said assimilation and the loss of tc culture happened a long time ago...of course it stands to reason the majority assimilating the minority and how the tcs will be the losers with the loss of the curtural heritage...

well iwas attacked for these views but none other than halil and insan, boastiong how they assimilated the sellters, which evryone knows an impossible dream...

the question here is, where are the tcs defending their rights and cultural heritage?...they are all gone quite...wonder as to why this is the case...

but most interesting some are more interested in preserving democratic cultural traditions such children biides...as per the latest discusisions...

come on deniz, halil, insan, and you too douche bag, where are you to defendi the loss of your cultural heritage and cultural extinction?...

of course you don't have too since this is true, i believe it is and you have been feeding us lies...

I heard the argument we are reverting back to our roots and you gcs are to blame...wearing a bit thin to say the least...blaming others for your loss ain't gonna wash anymore, since as our very good fireind, our mate, Mr H, meaning he is happy about, reading from his post...

WELL boys?...where are you?...

[shahmaran]

I do not know about your views on "assimilation" but I can say that the real assimilation has been done by the Brits.

The Turks who come to the island have no "powerful qualities" that would effect the people here culturally. On the contrary they end up like us and talk like us after living here for long periods and their children are no different.

I think it is because the ones that come here are of lower class.

But the British effect is incredibly vivid.

In fact you can say that it is the most obvious difference between us and the main landers.

[boomerang]

i hear you shah, resistance might be futile in the long term as there is only a handfull of brits and heaps of settlers...is it a matter of time?...I mean don't you have to one day accomodate these people, settelrs, in some way?...could this be a reason why proper turkish is spoken as to include the settlers with in the community?...but if we were to read our friend's post, Mr H, this isn"t the case...language for example he claims as having changed to proper turkish, and if you read more one could conclude, from his post, it was disgusting to start off with in the first place and should have been speaking proper turkish and not peasant turkish in the first place...

also do not forget we are constantly remideed 4 million turks will be at our doorstep one day, again by our good friend Mr.H...

do not take offence on the peasant turkish, coz the greeks say the same about us...

[shahmaran]

i hear you shah, restance might be futile as there is only a handfull of brits and heaps of settlers...is it a matter of time?...I mean don't you have to one day accomodate these people, settelrs, in some way?...could this be a reason why proper turkish is spoken as to include the settlers with in the community?...but if we were to read our friend's post, Mr H, this isn"t the case...language for example he claims as having changed to proper turkish, and if you read more one could conclude, from his post, it was disgusting to start off with in the first place and should have been speaking proper turkish and not peasant turkish in the first place...

do not take offence on the peasant turkish, coz the greeks say the same about us...

It is not peasant Turkish, it is old Ottoman Turkish that was isolated from the mainlands evolution of language and also affected by Greek and British.

Also lets not forget that the so called "proper Turkish" which is actually known as Istanbul Turkish is not very common in Turkey at all. Most of Turkey has all sorts of messed up dialects and not even the politicians and EVEN many Professors (shocking I know) you see on TV actually speak Istanbul Turkish, they are all Eastern baboons with degrees. (which is probably why the country takes 2 steps back for every step forward). In fact some of the Turkish spoken in some parts of Turkey would want to make you search for Cypriot Turkish with a flashlight, it is horrid!

Plus I am not aware of people speaking "proper" Turkish in the island.

Never met a TC that has suddenly converted their dialect.

I do know a LOT of Turks who could not help but end up speaking like we do here.

Like I said, the mainlanders who come are mostly of lower class and education and inevitably get caught up with the local culture and dialect. The locals have no reason to do so as they see them as illiterate cheap labour which is what they mostly are anyways.

The real visible effect has been left by the British.

I do not believe the TC identity will ever disappear because even after 35 years you can still easily tell a mainlander apart from a TC even by the looks, you don't even have to hear them talk, it is obvious.

[boomerang]

in other words you are refuting our good friend Mr H?...is this what you are trying to say?...well done...

[shahmaran]

in other words you are refuting our good friend Mr H?...is this what you are trying to say?...well done...

I have not read what he said but I will not lie about what I see everyday either.

[boomerang]

in other words you are refuting our good friend Mr H?...is this what you are trying to say?...well done...

I have not read what he said but I will not lie about what I see everyday either.

i am not saying you are lying shah, but have look at my opening post in this thread to see what he is saying...

[shahmaran]

in other words you are refuting our good friend Mr H?...is this what you are trying to say?...well done...

I have not read what he said but I will not lie about what I see everyday either.

i am not saying you are lying shah, but have look at my opening post in this thread to see what he is saying...

Ok well like I said, TC's speak like TC's and the mainlanders speak like mainlanders and it mostly is Eastern dialects such as Kurdish, and not the proper stuff.

To be honest, I am yet to see this "assimilation by Turkey" everyone fears so much.

[boomerang]

well here are some examples shah...coming from tcs...

my friend, and Get real and Oracle and others, you dont know what is your talking about.
There are 1 million people living in north nearly and it is growing everyday.S
o stop talkin BULLSHIT and think about this. Soon, you will not find any TC's to negotiate then I wonder what you going to say?

so shah this begs the question are these lies?...would you accept annexation?...coz according to MrH assimilation already happen,...btw nowhere in the world a minority successfuly assimilated a vast majority...it will be a slow process but it's gonna happen...

we have 2 recents post meaning more or less the same...
1...saying you speak proper turkish, meaning no more peasant turkish
2...1 million people in the north and growing...

so someone is spreading lies...or rather misinformation

[revolver]

Misinformation? Lies?
Why dont you come to north and see it with your own eyes?
It is easy.
No one knows how many people living here.
Some say 400.000, Talat once (four years ago) said 500.000; same say 700.000; a source, close friend of mine said 'I issued the Id 902.000! is the number on it'; there are Id who have February 30! for the birthday!;
Statistic office announced last week as 285.000, but on the other hand, one of the biggest GSM operator has making advertisement 'thank you north Cyprus, thank you 338.000 customers'...
other one is as big as have at least 200.000!
So, living in north Cyprus is something else my friend.
A life time experience.))