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No EU option for TRNC

Postby MrH » Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:47 pm

There is obviously no position for the TRNC in becoming an EU member state as it's a Muslim country, that is obvious. Turkey is a member of the OIC by default like how Poland, Bulgaria and Romania became Members of the EU. If Turkey were a Christian country, as it is obviously in a much better position all round than either of the three mentioned Christian countries, it would have been accepted in the EU immediately. Everyone knows that the three mentioned countries are clearly not Economically, Democratically or Politically sound to have entered the EU in 10 years time yet alone today. There you have it. The EU has obviously made its choice regarding Turkey, and has now lost the TRNC along with it, leaving the poor Greek Cypriots confused and inconsistent in their Home and Foreign Policy.
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Postby boulio » Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:53 pm

The t/c have the option and many are using it (by getting ROC passports)to be in the EU.The T/C in my opiion have made a terrible mistake by not being more elastic and comprimising and joining the roc in being in the EU.
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Re: No EU option for TRNC

Postby Hermes » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:44 pm

MrH wrote:There is obviously no position for the TRNC in becoming an EU member state as it's a Muslim country, that is obvious. Turkey is a member of the OIC by default like how Poland, Bulgaria and Romania became Members of the EU. If Turkey were a Christian country, as it is obviously in a much better position all round than either of the three mentioned Christian countries, it would have been accepted in the EU immediately.


We have a comedian on the forum. The reason the "TRNC" can't be accepted into the EU is because the EU and the rest of the world doesn't recognize such a place. It's nothing to do with the religion of the population, you idiot.

In case you missed it, the Turkish Cypriot citizens of the ROC are already EU members. While the EU, in its wisdom, has already started accession negotiations with a muslim country: Turkey.

However, due to their own stupidity and intransigence, Turkey has refused to recognize a fellow EU member state and has failed to meet its obligations in the accession process. As a result, it finds its accession path has stalled.

The EU is not a gentleman's club where entry is by invite. Turkey cannot be accepted "immediately" as you seem to think. Each candidate country has to fulfill certain criteria and adapt its regulations and institutions to meet EU law.

If Turkey had wanted to, it would be well on its way to EU membership by now. The reason it isn't is entirely due to its own failings.
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Postby paliometoxo » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:53 pm

turkey wants to be accepted on their terms and to change all the eu rules to suite them
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:54 pm

paliometoxo wrote:turkey wants to be accepted on their terms and to change all the eu rules to suite them


EU rules have proven to be relative.

Basically they are full of shit.
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Postby Hermes » Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:00 pm

shahmaran wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:turkey wants to be accepted on their terms and to change all the eu rules to suite them


EU rules have proven to be relative.

Basically they are full of shit.


Not when it comes to Turkish accession.
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:01 pm

Hermes wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:turkey wants to be accepted on their terms and to change all the eu rules to suite them


EU rules have proven to be relative.

Basically they are full of shit.


Not when it comes to Turkish accession.


How so?
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Postby MrH » Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:08 pm

Boulio,
I wasn't referring to the TCs, I was referring to the "TRNC". The Self-declared and functioning state since 1983. I know the TCs have a GC desired option, but that's never going to happen as the TCs will never accept the GC so called Protected Minority rights under a GC-Controlled ROC. Then, I say, what's the alternative?
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Postby boulio » Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:12 pm

MR H PLEASE STOP WRITING DISTORTIONS.The g/c side has accepted a federal model for cyprus were the northern state would be administered by the t/c.i dont now were you get minortiy rights and the trnc as a functioning state but sooner or later the t/c will have to make a decision.either in a federal model with the g/c in the eu or sitting in isolation and being eradicated by the anatolian settlers.
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Postby MrH » Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:18 pm

Hermes,
Taiwan and Kosovo are not internationally Recognised but still exist and are Not isolated; can trade freely. When the TRNC also reaches this stage of international trade, what do you believe will happen then? Before you answer, think about why there are so many Border Check points being opened in Cyprus, including the one opened today, and what will happen when there is complete freedom of movement. In other words, will the TRNC be automatically recognised if there's no border control anymore? Remember who first started the ball rolling with the opening of the first check point - Mr Denktas, and who he is and what his goal is! It's ok speculating and arguing about this and that, but perhaps we should all think about what is going on at ground level. Also, Why has Christofias agreed to a Tri-Meeting in the face of his peoples deep opposition?
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