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[shahmaran]

so you dont want a federal republic?

Sorry I thought you meant a "single state".

[boulio]

you mean unitary state?a federal republic is a single state.

[Viewpoint]

There is obviously no position for the TRNC in becoming an EU member state as it's a Muslim country, that is obvious. Turkey is a member of the OIC by default like how Poland, Bulgaria and Romania became Members of the EU. If Turkey were a Christian country, as it is obviously in a much better position all round than either of the three mentioned Christian countries, it would have been accepted in the EU immediately.

We have a comedian on the forum. The reason the "TRNC" can't be accepted into the EU is because the EU and the rest of the world doesn't recognize such a place. It's nothing to do with the religion of the population, you idiot.

In case you missed it, the Turkish Cypriot citizens of the ROC are already EU members. While the EU, in its wisdom, has already started accession negotiations with a muslim country: Turkey.

However, due to their own stupidity and intransigence, Turkey has refused to recognize a fellow EU member state and has failed to meet its obligations in the accession process. As a result, it finds its accession path has stalled.

The EU is not a gentleman's club where entry is by invite. Turkey cannot be accepted "immediately" as you seem to think. Each candidate country has to fulfill certain criteria and adapt its regulations and institutions to meet EU law.

If Turkey had wanted to, it would be well on its way to EU membership by now. The reason it isn't is entirely due to its own failings.

How the hell can Turkey recognize the "RoC" in its current state its missing 30% of its limbs and has not resolved its problems. Even the EU regret taking you GCs in while the island remains divided you are nothing but a headache for them and act like spoilt brats.

[Piratis]

ok and what will the federal system be like in your opinion ?

There are a bunch of plans going around.

To be honest I do not care about the inner workings that much.

As long as we have some kind of autonomy and don't have to totally rely on a solely GC run government, police and justice system.

Where we can both have a say on what goes on in the country and on each others states in some way.

Definitely not having to live in an ethnoracy.

On a more extreme level, I rather stay like this than be a "tourist" in my own country, thats definitely a no no!

In what way Turkey or the "trnc" is not an "ethocracy", while a united democratic Cyprus will?

Is there any ethnic group in Turkey that has autonomy and a "say" (veto) on what goes on in the country, or any of the other privileges you demand for your own minority in Cyprus?

Or maybe you mean that where Turks are the majority it is fine to have "ethnocracy" but it is not OK to have one in Cyprus because you are the minority?

No matter how you try to put it you can not escape from the fact that what you demand is nothing short of stealing our lands to have "autonomy" over a territory that belongs to GCs by over 80%, while at the same time you demand racist discriminations and segregation so your minority will gain (on our expense) way more power than what proportionally belongs to you.

[Viewpoint]

ok and what will the federal system be like in your opinion ?

There are a bunch of plans going around.

To be honest I do not care about the inner workings that much.

As long as we have some kind of autonomy and don't have to totally rely on a solely GC run government, police and justice system.

Where we can both have a say on what goes on in the country and on each others states in some way.

Definitely not having to live in an ethnoracy.

On a more extreme level, I rather stay like this than be a "tourist" in my own country, thats definitely a no no!

In what way Turkey or the "trnc" is not an "ethocracy", while a united democratic Cyprus will?

Is there any ethnic group in Turkey that has autonomy and a "say" (veto) on what goes on in the country, or any of the other privileges you demand for your own minority in Cyprus?

Or maybe you mean that where Turks are the majority it is fine to have "ethnocracy" but it is not OK to have one in Cyprus because you are the minority?

No matter how you try to put it you can not escape from the fact that what you demand is nothing short of stealing our lands to have "autonomy" over a territory that belongs to GCs by over 80%, while at the same time you demand racist discriminations and segregation so your minority will gain (on our expense) way more power than what proportionally belongs to you.

Tell that to the Belgians.

[shahmaran]

ok and what will the federal system be like in your opinion ?

There are a bunch of plans going around.

To be honest I do not care about the inner workings that much.

As long as we have some kind of autonomy and don't have to totally rely on a solely GC run government, police and justice system.

Where we can both have a say on what goes on in the country and on each others states in some way.

Definitely not having to live in an ethnoracy.

On a more extreme level, I rather stay like this than be a "tourist" in my own country, thats definitely a no no!

In what way Turkey or the "trnc" is not an "ethocracy", while a united democratic Cyprus will?

Is there any ethnic group in Turkey that has autonomy and a "say" (veto) on what goes on in the country, or any of the other privileges you demand for your own minority in Cyprus?

Or maybe you mean that where Turks are the majority it is fine to have "ethnocracy" but it is not OK to have one in Cyprus because you are the minority?

No matter how you try to put it you can not escape from the fact that what you demand is nothing short of stealing our lands to have "autonomy" over a territory that belongs to GCs by over 80%, while at the same time you demand racist discriminations and segregation so your minority will gain (on our expense) way more power than what proportionally belongs to you.

Dickhead, Turkey has already had 2 Kurdish presidents, one of them was one of the founders of the state.

Turks and Kurds fought together for the Republic of Turkey, there was no problem between them until the last few decades. This can be related to many things which has no similarity to Cyprus.

Get your facts straight or shut the fuck up!

Plus this is not Turkey, this is Cyprus.

I do not live in Turkey, I have no say in Turkey, I am here!

Also do explain how you went from serfs who owned nothing, to %80, as I am dying to know.

[Piratis]

There is obviously no position for the TRNC in becoming an EU member state as it's a Muslim country, that is obvious. Turkey is a member of the OIC by default like how Poland, Bulgaria and Romania became Members of the EU. If Turkey were a Christian country, as it is obviously in a much better position all round than either of the three mentioned Christian countries, it would have been accepted in the EU immediately.

We have a comedian on the forum. The reason the "TRNC" can't be accepted into the EU is because the EU and the rest of the world doesn't recognize such a place. It's nothing to do with the religion of the population, you idiot.

In case you missed it, the Turkish Cypriot citizens of the ROC are already EU members. While the EU, in its wisdom, has already started accession negotiations with a muslim country: Turkey.

However, due to their own stupidity and intransigence, Turkey has refused to recognize a fellow EU member state and has failed to meet its obligations in the accession process. As a result, it finds its accession path has stalled.

The EU is not a gentleman's club where entry is by invite. Turkey cannot be accepted "immediately" as you seem to think. Each candidate country has to fulfill certain criteria and adapt its regulations and institutions to meet EU law.

If Turkey had wanted to, it would be well on its way to EU membership by now. The reason it isn't is entirely due to its own failings.

How the hell can Turkey recognize the "RoC" in its current state its missing 30% of its limbs and has not resolved its problems. Even the EU regret taking you GCs in while the island remains divided you are nothing but a headache for them and act like spoilt brats.

Turkey is responsible for RoCs current state, this is why she is the only country in the world not to recognize RoC.

The EU is very happy to have Cyprus. And I am not talking about the pro-Turk minority among EU members. I am talking about the vast majority of Europeans who are more than happy to have a valid reason to keep Turkey out of the union.

[shahmaran]

Greece is responsible for the current state and idiots like you amongst the Cypriots who feel connected to those Greek fascists who wanted Enosis.

Don't worry though, your kind is in the verge of extinction.

[Viewpoint]

There is obviously no position for the TRNC in becoming an EU member state as it's a Muslim country, that is obvious. Turkey is a member of the OIC by default like how Poland, Bulgaria and Romania became Members of the EU. If Turkey were a Christian country, as it is obviously in a much better position all round than either of the three mentioned Christian countries, it would have been accepted in the EU immediately.

We have a comedian on the forum. The reason the "TRNC" can't be accepted into the EU is because the EU and the rest of the world doesn't recognize such a place. It's nothing to do with the religion of the population, you idiot.

In case you missed it, the Turkish Cypriot citizens of the ROC are already EU members. While the EU, in its wisdom, has already started accession negotiations with a muslim country: Turkey.

However, due to their own stupidity and intransigence, Turkey has refused to recognize a fellow EU member state and has failed to meet its obligations in the accession process. As a result, it finds its accession path has stalled.

The EU is not a gentleman's club where entry is by invite. Turkey cannot be accepted "immediately" as you seem to think. Each candidate country has to fulfill certain criteria and adapt its regulations and institutions to meet EU law.

If Turkey had wanted to, it would be well on its way to EU membership by now. The reason it isn't is entirely due to its own failings.

How the hell can Turkey recognize the "RoC" in its current state its missing 30% of its limbs and has not resolved its problems. Even the EU regret taking you GCs in while the island remains divided you are nothing but a headache for them and act like spoilt brats.

Turkey is responsible for RoCs current state, this is why she is the only country in the world not to recognize RoC.

The EU is very happy to have Cyprus. And I am not talking about the pro-Turk minority among EU members. I am talking about the vast majority of Europeans who are more than happy to have a valid reason to keep Turkey out of the union.

Turkey can see the incompatability of the two sides and thats why she supports the current division which undeniably brought a peaceful existence for all and great properity to GCs who have exploited our recognition purely for themselves. We have yet to resolve any issues she has no reason to leave or recognize the hijacked "RoC" with its Tcs representation.

The EU will exploit and use you all they want because you Gcs are so guliable and riddled with prejuidiced that you cannot see they do nto care a fig leaf about your problem, what have they done to help you over the past 6 years to get what you want? Nothing as you do not have what you want and that is control over hte whole island and Turkey out of the picture.

[Piratis]

ok and what will the federal system be like in your opinion ?

There are a bunch of plans going around.

To be honest I do not care about the inner workings that much.

As long as we have some kind of autonomy and don't have to totally rely on a solely GC run government, police and justice system.

Where we can both have a say on what goes on in the country and on each others states in some way.

Definitely not having to live in an ethnoracy.

On a more extreme level, I rather stay like this than be a "tourist" in my own country, thats definitely a no no!

In what way Turkey or the "trnc" is not an "ethocracy", while a united democratic Cyprus will?

Is there any ethnic group in Turkey that has autonomy and a "say" (veto) on what goes on in the country, or any of the other privileges you demand for your own minority in Cyprus?

Or maybe you mean that where Turks are the majority it is fine to have "ethnocracy" but it is not OK to have one in Cyprus because you are the minority?

No matter how you try to put it you can not escape from the fact that what you demand is nothing short of stealing our lands to have "autonomy" over a territory that belongs to GCs by over 80%, while at the same time you demand racist discriminations and segregation so your minority will gain (on our expense) way more power than what proportionally belongs to you.

Dickhead, Turkey has already had 2 Kurdish presidents, one of them was one of the founders of the state.

Turks and Kurds fought together for the Republic of Turkey, there was no problem between them until the last few decades. This can be related to many things which has no similarity to Cyprus.

Get your facts straight or shut the fuck up!

Plus this is not Turkey, this is Cyprus.

I do not live in Turkey, I have no say in Turkey, I am here!

Since you are apparently unable to communicate in a civilized way, and since I have no wish to drop to your level, I have reported your posts to the Admin, so expect to be banned soon unless you start behaving.

The "Kurdish" presidents that Turkey had were more Turkish than the "real" Turks. They fought against Kurdish secessionists and even maintained the ban against the Kurdish language.

Also do explain how you went from serfs who owned nothing, to %80, as I am dying to know.

The era of slaves and serfs belongs in the past, and if it was not for the Ottomans we would have eventually gone from serfs to owning 100% of property of our island, not just 80% of it. Or maybe you think that if Cyprus was not occupied by the Ottomans Cyprus today would still be under Venetian rule?