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[Viewpoint]

You are totally wrong if they ever made the grave mistake of abandoning us prior to a solution they would not be permitted to return as the intervention would be considered as a direct attack on the EU and not just the GCs. Are you prepared to allow them the right to intervene whenever they wished?
You want them out of the way so you can impose your will on the TCs.

they did not have permission the first time and that did not stop them..

Read your consitituion, you obviously have not theres something in there about guaranteeing security.

[paliometoxo]

yes but turkey had to get permission from the un which they did not

[Viewpoint]

yes but turkey had to get permission from the un which they did not

That would have taken ages when lives are at stake you act nothing is more important than human life, they waited in Bosnia and look what happened.

[paliometoxo]

yes but turkey had to get permission from the un which they did not

That would have taken ages when lives are at stake you act nothing is more important than human life, they waited in Bosnia and look what happened.

exactly... so why would this time be any different and the turks would say oh no we better wait for the un to say ok....

they would jump in again with no thought, maybe quicker then in 1974, maybe this time not shoot down their own ships

[Viewpoint]

yes but turkey had to get permission from the un which they did not

That would have taken ages when lives are at stake you act nothing is more important than human life, they waited in Bosnia and look what happened.

exactly... so why would this time be any different and the turks would say oh no we better wait for the un to say ok....

they would jump in again with no thought, maybe quicker then in 1974, maybe this time not shoot down their own ships

Its a totally different ball gamenow they cannot return if the leave prematurely plus we dont them to go until we are happy with a solution. Do you really think we will just say leave and leave ourselves exposed to GC will?

[paliometoxo]

yes as soon as the army left i would come with guns to kill any turk i saw as would the rest of the gcs

[Viewpoint]

yes as soon as the army left i would come with guns to kill any turk i saw as would the rest of the gcs

You may not but how will you stop those that will?

[ZoC]

yes as soon as the army left i would come with guns to kill any turk i saw as would the rest of the gcs

You may not but how will you stop those that will?

too true... it's gonna be difficult to resist the temptation. not "any turk", though. specific ones.

[humanist]

VP sooner or later you will have to trust as do we ... you need the GC's as you see it for your survival, the inevitable has come that partition is not an option as was stated by the EU commissioner and secondly the No Direct Trade means that the EU has told Turkey indirectly what she needs to do to get into EU. So it is best to reduce the Turkish army stronghold, for the Turkish Cypriot political parties to align with their equivalent GC parties for inclusiveness, once again alluded too by the EU Commissioner. The alternative is to maintain status quo and watch the TC community of Cyprus disappear and only maintained by the TC community in diaspora and whilst some may return the majority will not.

[Viewpoint]

VP sooner or later you will have to trust as do we ... you need the GC's as you see it for your survival, the inevitable has come that partition is not an option as was stated by the EU commissioner and secondly the No Direct Trade means that the EU has told Turkey indirectly what she needs to do to get into EU. So it is best to reduce the Turkish army stronghold, for the Turkish Cypriot political parties to align with their equivalent GC parties for inclusiveness, once again alluded too by the EU Commissioner. The alternative is to maintain status quo and watch the TC community of Cyprus disappear and only maintained by the TC community in diaspora and whilst some may return the majority will not.

Taking what you have offered and the fact that after 1974 we have the freedom to choose I believe the majority of TCs would take the second option. Your alighn yourselves with this and follow the line mentality is not clear and without clear cut guides lines that will guarantee our future like the AP we will not agree to any EU bullshit you throw our way. Its time you realized what the worlds says is a BBF with political equality of the 2 states and that is also what we support.