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Postby Gregory » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:40 am

MrH wrote:Get Real Said
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The original Cyprus Constitution was a PARTNERSHIP of Turkish and Greek Cypriots,...

No it wasn’t! We foolishly gave your community 30% of the House of Representatives and the vice presidency, even though you deserved jack shit, but we can now see what a huge mistake it was allowing you any part of it!


What?
Are you smoking something heavy mate? The island was Owned by the Ottoman Empire (Turks) from 1571 to 1878, Annexed by Britain in the 1920s, and then Greek Cypriots Terrorists suckered the British in to relinquishing the island from 1955 to 1960, which resulted in a PARTNERSHIP State - What do you mean YOU gave US 30%. You are a bigger fool and Racist than I thought. Your Greek Nationalism is seriously exposed mate, what a shame that WE Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots will never see eye to eye.

Typical Greek Cypriot attitude, only when it suits you and a Blast when it doesn't. With the British Memorial for those Killed by Greek Cypriots between 1955-1960 in GIRNE and the EU Parliament soon to start DIRECT Trade with NORTHERN CYPRUS, we will see who will have the last laugh. You are just so pissed off as you guys we tricked into entering the EU and now having to handle a HUGE uncontrollable mass migration of Peasant EU nations - trust me mate, I have seen the ones that a have arrived there so far, hence the 16% increase in crime rate. You can keep your GC-ROC.

NORTHERN CYPRUS is here to Stay, you messed up between 1963-1974, and in 2004 with the rejection of the Annan Plan and now you are trying to once again blame us - Typical.

The ISLAND of Cyprus is a SHARED entity of BOTH Greek and Turkish Cypriots, where it is up to you how YOU CHOSE to run your side - clearly you have messed it up.

PLUS - WHO IS GOING TO REMOVE TURKEY's INFLUENCE ON THE ISLAND AND THEIR Guarantor RIGHTS?

Stop Dreaming Get real and get yourself a REAL JOB - Perhaps a Road Sweeper with your Bulgarian Turkish EU Migrants!


:lol: hands up who thinks MrH finished school?
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:44 am

Get Real! wrote:
MrH wrote:The original Cyprus Constitution was a PARTNERSHIP of Turkish and Greek Cypriots,...


The creation of the Republic of Cyprus was not achieved by the Turks - quite the opposite!

It was the Greek Cypriots that created the Republic of Cyprus by freeing Cyprus from British colonial rule while the Turks worked for the colonial forces to suppress the struggle for independence!

:lol: :lol:

Lets not rewrite history here!

This island was freed by the Ottomans, buddy.

Your entire socio-economic status and non-existent church was "upgraded" by the Ottomans too.

Thanks to the Ottomans, you went from a no body, to the master of your own lands.

Don't forget who created you Serf boy, everything that came after is a result of the above! :lol:
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Postby MrH » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:49 am

Gregory,

Why don't you just tell everyone that your real name is Gregoriou and that you are really Greek and not pretend that you are English. You've mad your self look a bit silly mate.

Hands up who thinks Gregory is SCARED to call himself a Greek Cypriot!
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Postby Gregory » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:51 am

MrH wrote:Gregory,

Why don't you just tell everyone that your real name is Gregoriou and that you are really Greek and not pretend that you are English. You've mad your self look a bit silly mate.

Hands up who thinks Gregory is SCARED to call himself a Greek Cypriot!


Actually its Grigoris, I've been asked before on the forum and answered no problem.

Now about that job you've got at the Cyprus Mail, care to answer CBBB regarding his conversation with them and the fact that they've never heard of you?
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Postby Oracle » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:51 am

MrH wrote: ... The island was Owned by the Ottoman Empire (Turks) from 1571 to 1878,


The Ottoman empire never "owned" Cyprus. They held it under occupation. Bit like Germany never "owned" France in WWII but held it under occupation, until liberation!
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Postby MrH » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:53 am

Get Real Wrote:
It was the Greek Cypriots that created the Republic of Cyprus by freeing Cyprus from British colonial rule while the Turks worked for the colonial forces to suppress the struggle for independence!


I see, well, perhaps WE should Terrorise the Greek Cypriots for our Independence or are we not as barbaric?

The Annexation of Northern Cyprus after Turkey is kicked out of the EU as a Candidate will be a very interesting era for the island. Can't wait!
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:22 am

Oracle wrote:
MrH wrote: ... The island was Owned by the Ottoman Empire (Turks) from 1571 to 1878,


The Ottoman empire never "owned" Cyprus. They held it under occupation.


That is still a lot more than what you had.

You never owned Cyprus until the Ottomans gave it to you.

Ottoman's "everyone can rule themselves the way they want" policy was clearly their downfall.

You don't suddenly "own" a place by simply living there Oracle, the world does not work that way.

Think of it like "squatters".

They live there, yes, but do they own it? :lol:

There is a lot more to self rule and independence than just bumming around making hallumi. :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:38 am

shahmaran wrote:
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MrH wrote: ... The island was Owned by the Ottoman Empire (Turks) from 1571 to 1878,


The Ottoman empire never "owned" Cyprus. They held it under occupation.


That is still a lot more than what you had.

You never owned Cyprus until the Ottomans gave it to you.


When was this great handing over? Whilst we were in the midst of establishing rule over the Venetians?

Did we appoint the Ottomans as our mercenaries?


You don't suddenly "own" a place by simply living there Oracle, the world does not work that way.

Think of it like "squatters".


I'm glad you brought that up because there is a whole historical, legal, political and cultural school of conduct associated with just this very problem. And the Ottomans and now the Turks, their settlers and even some TCs are doing exactly that in Cyprus! Squatting!
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:07 am

Oracle wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Oracle wrote:
MrH wrote: ... The island was Owned by the Ottoman Empire (Turks) from 1571 to 1878,


The Ottoman empire never "owned" Cyprus. They held it under occupation.


That is still a lot more than what you had.

You never owned Cyprus until the Ottomans gave it to you.


When was this great handing over? Whilst we were in the midst of establishing rule over the Venetians?

Did we appoint the Ottomans as our mercenaries?


You don't suddenly "own" a place by simply living there Oracle, the world does not work that way.

Think of it like "squatters".


I'm glad you brought that up because there is a whole historical, legal, political and cultural school of conduct associated with just this very problem. And the Ottomans and now the Turks, their settlers and even some TCs are doing exactly that in Cyprus! Squatting!


You are missing the point on purpose Oracle.

You cannot decide on anything when you have no control.

The Ottoman policy is to let the people rule themselves with their own religion in return for taxes.

That is how it expands.

It is just that which gave you your first rights to self rule and own, also authority to your Church.

You were not even allowed to be an Orthodox prior to all this.

Face it, the Ottomans did a great thing initially which you cannot deny. :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:16 am

shahmaran wrote:The Ottoman policy is to let the people rule themselves with their own religion in return for taxes.



Tell me where such a practice exists/existed and in which form? Because most scholars would tell you that the Ottoman Turks did/do anything but allow people to rule themselves or practice their religion, or to even use their own language etc! Yeah, they tax people alright!

(Methinks, staying up late does not agree with your mental processes!)
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