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[MrH]

I believe the problem with ordinary Greek Cypriot people like "Get Real" is that there are so many of them filled with hate and false propaganda through their Greek School education system. So, it`s so easy to convince them to support ridicules scenarios against any Turk. Maybe they can regret what has been done before but nevertheless, I would never be surprised if they do it again.

For example, even today, I am sure that you can find hundreds of thousandss of supporters in Greece or Greek Cyprus if you talk about invading the entire area of Macedonia, Enosis with Cyprus, killing all the Turks in western Thrace or getting back Istanbul to create a 2nd Byzantine Empire or even believing that they will win a war against Turkey and claim Northern Cyprus.

Yes, my point here is that they, like Get Real, are that delusional and they can easily be blinded by Greek Nationalism and this will never change unless they change their education system, which I believe their President Christofias actually tried to suggest before he was branded a traitor.

This is why I believe that there will, and can never be a Cyprus compromise as the Greek Cypriots need to desperately change from within, and that's impossible as they are ruled and controlled by the GC Church and their deep rooted hate campaign against all Turkish Cypriots.

Sorry for any Typo errors again as I'm writing this on my Blackberry while waiting for the EURO Star train as St.Pancras Station, London - I will be here for another hour if you would like to meet? I sitting outside WH Smiths!.

[Get Real!]

And what if I were to inform that my only Greek Cypriot education was the first three years of primary school because the Turks suddenly invaded and put an end to it?

How much “brainwashing” could the Greek Cypriot education system have possibly managed over me while I was struggling with the ABC?

This was my "propaganda" reading book during the first year...

[Sotos]

So lets see ... we should change our education so we will stop hating the invading Turks so we will compromise and give half of our country to them. That is very convenient for you , but can you give me one good reason why we would want to do that? If you want us to stop hating you then you have to give us our country back. Why the hell should we not hate you while you continue to occupy our homes?

[MrH]

And I guess the rest was gained at Saturday Greek School in Australia? They must have really set a good example and explained how, and why Turkey had to intervene after the 15th July 1974 Greek Junta Coup and how many Turkish Cypriots had been killed, civilians, women and children, when the Greek Cypriot forces were ordered to stop fighting themselves and kill are Turkish Cypriots before Turkey's force were able to save any!

What I am getting at here my friend is that the ONLY way of Compromising on the island is to face the reality that both Greek and Turkish Cypriot can not live under one roof until this mentality is removed and trust is reinstated. Where, and I'm sure you'll agree, will take many years of working at. But, they can not even commence unless the foundations are laid first and it's the Greek Cypriots that are preventing this. It's a bit like the lesser of two evils. Recognise Two CYPRIOT states now so one day those two states could gradually work to settle their differences bit by bit, or continue as we are until the Turkish Cypriots finally decide to unify with the Republic of Turkey. You may deem this as impossible, but it's soon becoming a reality on the Turkish Cypriot side, and the Greek Cypriot negative stance and failed agreements is what is empowering such an inevitable scenario.

If you don't believe what I saying, just watch this space on Feb 2011!! I can not warn you enough when Turkey annexes Northern Cyprus and adopts the "Norway Model". You must have read something about it? Turkey knows where it stance in the face of its EU application and has now reached a stage where it's ready to cement its long term position.

Why am I saying this, well, let's just say that once Turkey has adopted this Norway Model and has integrated Northern Cyprus into its territory, how many Turkish Cypriot will be left to tell the tail? How many Turkish citizens will move to Northern Cyprus and eventually filter over to your side in the South after Turkey Opens its port to the GC-ROC in a counter move?

Turkey is not stupid Get Real, and don't think for two seconds that it doesn't know what's really going on. I meet with Greek Cypriot and Turkish journalists on a regular basis to discuss possible outcomes related to the Cyprus issue and they all boil down to the same scenario!

Stop pushing the Turkish Cypriots away, as you are only pulling them closer to Turkey. Turkey has played the Greek Cypriot once already in the no to distant past with the opening of the check points in 2003. That was not down as a good will gesture only. Please think about it. Think about what if the Green Line was removed completely over so many years - would it integrate Cyprus or Could it just Impose an automatic "Turkish" Border!

Sorry again for any typing mistakes, I'm still waiting for my train and typing on this blasted Blackberry device. By the way, I'm on my way to interview a Greek Cypriot MEP, Guess who?

[Sotos]

And I guess the rest was gained at Saturday Greek School in Australia? They must have really set a good example and explained how, and why Turkey had to intervene after the 15th July 1974 Greek Junta Coup and how many Turkish Cypriots had been killed, civilians, women and children, when the Greek Cypriot forces were ordered to stop fighting themselves and kill are Turkish Cypriots before Turkey's force were able to save any!

You are so brainwashed. All that you know is Turkish lies. And then you talk about our education? The Turks were challenged many times to show facts about TC casualties between 15th of July and the day of the Turkish invasion and they couldn't give even a singe one. It is only after you invaded us and you started to kill civilians, women and children that GCs retaliated.

recognise Two CYPRIOT states now so one day those two states could gradually work to settle their differences bit by bit, or continue as we are until the Turkish Cypriots finally decide to unify with the Republic of Turkey.

What Cypriot states? Are you taking about the so called "TURKISH republic of northern cyprus"? There is no such thing to recognize. There is ILLEGAL TURKISH OCCUPATION OF NORTH CYPRUS. What name you give to it is not relevant to us. You can call it "trnc" or "mersin 10" or whatever. No difference at all to us. What will make a difference is for us to get our land back. Either give it back or get used to be hated because that is what you deserve!

[Hermes]

Stop pushing the Turkish Cypriots away, as you are only pulling them closer to Turkey.

Most of your post is nonsense. It's difficult to know where to start. But it's about time the T/Cs stopped blaming G/C's for their predicament.

The plight of the Turkish Cypriot community is the direct result of Turkey’s occupation of Cyprus, which keeps the country, its people, its institutions and its economy forcibly divided. It is also the result of misguided policies by Turkish Cypriot leaders who have consistently promoted Turkey’s interests at the expense of their own community and of Cyprus as a whole.

Under Turkish rule, the T/Cs have endured isolation, economic ruin, cultural eradication and mass emigration. Even the most fanatical Greek nationalist couldn't have inflicted such a disaster on the Turkish Cypriots.

If you cared as much for the T/Cs as you claim you'd realize that only the genuine reunification of Cyprus that provides for the reintegration of its people and economy can improve the situation of the Turkish Cypriots, allow them to realize their full potential and share the benefits of EU membership.

[bill cobbett]

And what if I were to inform that my only Greek Cypriot education was the first three years of primary school because the Turks suddenly invaded and put an end to it?

How much “brainwashing” could the Greek Cypriot education system have possibly managed over me while I was struggling with the ABC?

This was my "propaganda" reading book during the first year...

Is that Mimi and his sister on the cover?

[boomerang]

the problem right now is the tcs community in the next 5 years will not count as a community...the settlers are fast becoming the major community in the occupied areas...

it is to the best interest of the tc community to compromise with the gcs in order to survive...

the only thing we will be reading in text books in the future is once upon a time there was another community that existed on the island...period...

tell me how many minarets have been established in the north the last 7 years...this will tell you how far the tcs have been pushed...

another myth is the mistrust this individual talks about...how many tcs cross over for work/shopping every day?...how come they are not scared?...

the author of this thread is a partionist...simple as that...go on gamble your community's future and then cry wolf...

as far as the gcs are concerned partition is what we have today...but extinction we are not facing...

[Paphitis]

Get Real is educated?????

When did this happen? I suppose it's all relative, and relative to MrH he might be a fucking rocket scientist!

[boomerang]

MrH, and trying not to laugh addressing you as a Mr , why is it in turkey they never teach real history?...and is it a case of monkey see monkey do when it comes from the tcs prespective?...oh i get it it's because the whole wide world continuoally conspires agianst the turks...

this thread should be titled - "turks the genocidal ethnic cleansers"...

then we might get somewhere...

sorry for the spelling mistakes, i was typing while laughing at the ludicrous post made by the grey partitionist wolf...