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ancient greeks didn't invent everything – historians did

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Postby Oracle » Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:30 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:Face it ZoC -- you fooled no one but Figgy!


Figgy is no spoil sport. She just went along.......... :lol:


I'm prepared to accept that.

OK ...

Face it Zoc, you fooled no one! :D
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Re: ancient greeks didn't invent everything – historians did

Postby ZoC » Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:48 pm

ZoC wrote:hi everyone, i'm new here but wanted to share this, as it tickled me...

http://www.theonion.com/articles/histor ... eks,18209/

WASHINGTON—A group of leading historians held a press conference Monday at the National Geographic Society to announce they had "entirely fabricated" ancient Greece, a culture long thought to be the intellectual basis of Western civilization.


not sure how anyone could conclude from the above that my intention was in any way to fool anyone; affectionately pull their leg, perhaps... and the thread's clearly been successful in this regard...
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Re: ancient greeks didn't invent everything – historians did

Postby Oracle » Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:05 pm

ZoC wrote:
ZoC wrote:hi everyone, i'm new here but wanted to share this, as it tickled me...

http://www.theonion.com/articles/histor ... eks,18209/

WASHINGTON—A group of leading historians held a press conference Monday at the National Geographic Society to announce they had "entirely fabricated" ancient Greece, a culture long thought to be the intellectual basis of Western civilization.


not sure how anyone could conclude from the above that my intention was in any way to fool anyone; affectionately pull their leg, perhaps... and the thread's clearly been successful in this regard...


Yes, dear. How we laughed! :lol:

Go on, post another! :D
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Postby Simon » Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:29 pm

Me Ed wrote:I typed Turkish inventions into Google and got the following response:

Your search - Turkish inventions - did not match any documents.

Did you mean Greek Inventions, showing results for Greek inventions.

...



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Seriously though, if you put "Turkish inventions" into Wikipedia, it asks, "Did you mean Turkish invasion".

:lol: :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:29 pm

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Postby insan » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:35 pm

Black Athena – The Fabrication of Ancient Greece
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Black Athena - The Fabrication of Ancient GreeceExamines the claims of Professor Martin Bernal who questions the assumption of the “Europeaness” of our civilization placing instead the “black” Egyptians and Phoenicians at the center of the West’s origins.

Black Athena examines Cornell Professor Martin Bernal’s iconoclastic study of the African origins of Greek civilization and the explosive academic debate it provoked.

This film offers a balanced, scholarly introduction to the disputes surrounding multiculturalism, “political correctness” and Afrocentric curricula sweeping college campuses today.

In his book Black Athena, Prof. Bernal convincingly indicts 19th-century scholars for constructing a racist “cult of Greece” based upon a purely Aryan origin for Western culture. He accuses these classicists of suppressing the numerous connections between African and Near Eastern cultures and early Greek myth and art.

Leading classical scholars, on the other hand, contend that Bernal, like the 19th-century classicists he attacks, uses evidence selectively, uncritically and ahistorically to support his own Afrocentric agenda.

They argue that cultural diffusion alone can’t account for the distinctive achievements of the Greeks during the Classical Period. Black Athena can help students begin to distinguish between sound scholarship and cultural bias – whether inherited from the past or imposed by the present.

Watch the full documentary now

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http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/black-at ... nt-greece/

Europeans generally have a difficult time with the truth. The paradigm of white supremacy is like a drug addiction that they do not wish to give up. It is well documented in Martin Bernal’s book as well as many other books such as: Stolen Legacy, George G.M. James, Ancient Egypt, Light of the World, Gerald Massey, The Book of Beginnings, Gerald Massey, Black Genesis, Robert Bauval and countless others (I have primarily listed white scholars since europeans generally don’t accept Black scholarship); that Greek civilization drew heavily upon Ancient Egyptian civilization. Often, when this is unavoidable; the Ancient Egyptians are then depicted as white or some type of hybrid race. Of course, as anyone knows who has studied even a modicum of psychology; those who continuously proclaim superiority and identify others as inferior; are themselves masking a deep rooted inferiority complex.

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Fierce, civilized and enlightening discussions have been taking place on this issue somewhere in our networks... :wink:
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Postby Oracle » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:44 pm

Insan ... I've actually read the book and it is total rubbish.

It's insulting to Africans.

All of humanity derived from Africa.

But, Turks like you are the ultimate racists .... who helped with the enslavement of Africa! And, now continue Apartheid!
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:46 pm

Oracle wrote:Insan ... I've actually read the book and it is total rubbish.

It's insulting to Africans.

All of humanity derived from Africa.



Somehow I always knew that you read 'rubbish' books. :lol: :lol:

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Postby Oracle » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:48 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:Insan ... I've actually read the book and it is total rubbish.

It's insulting to Africans.

All of humanity derived from Africa.



Somehow I always knew that you read 'rubbish' books. :lol: :lol:

:wink:


I don't make pre-judgements like you, Deniz, the Apartheid-supporting Turk.
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Postby Sotos » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:52 pm

Simon wrote:
Me Ed wrote:I typed Turkish inventions into Google and got the following response:

Your search - Turkish inventions - did not match any documents.

Did you mean Greek Inventions, showing results for Greek inventions.

...



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Seriously though, if you put "Turkish inventions" into Wikipedia, it asks, "Did you mean Turkish invasion".

:lol: :lol:


:lol: :lol:
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