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by **Paphitis** » Thu May 26, 2011 10:14 am

Bananiot wrote:I know Piratis (and paphitis), blame the Americans for all our ailments and achieve sainthood. One day we just might grow up, in the meantime, take a crush course in "real politik" and do yourself a favour.

Paphitis, how is Christofias doing down under? Are you looking after him.

I was invited to a coctail party funded by the Premiers Office but will not be attending.

The Australian Government have control over everything and most Cypriots will never have a chance to meet him. Shame really.

Only people who are invited can go, and I don't want to get involved.

My wife actually got uninvited.

I guess Christofias will have to come back and see his people. The real diaspora and not the Cafe Latte Chardonnay set!

The President of SEKA didn't even get an invite. MP Julian Steffani wasn't invited because he is Liberal even though he was President of Paseka for a couple of years.

I choose to not involve myself with Cypriots and Greeks a long time ago Bananiot. I need my sanity.

Dare I say, that out of the 150 guests invited, most are Kalamaras. You will be able to play spot the Cypriot. They can obviously spot Christofias but one would think he is the President of Greece.

Btw Bananiot! Piratis is absolutely correct. Whilst I don't believe in the many nonsense stories of subversives being paid by the US Government, or US pilots flying Turkish aircraft and what not, the US did play a role and they could have stopped the invasion if they wanted to. I think by 1974, the US Government was fed up with the Red Priest and gave him something to worry about. The US had all bases covered, including the undesired threat of war between Greece and Turkey in NATO's southern flank.

Yes, at the time, the US and the USSR were preparing their war machines, and Makarios became an unwanted nuisance.

I am a big believer in O'Malley's brilliant and insightful book!

by **Piratis** » Thu May 26, 2011 10:51 am

Fighting for freedom and justice is not something which is done after a feasibility study.

Let me ask you something: If 5 armed men enter your house and give you the option of 1) letting them rape your wife, or else they would 2) rape your wife and beat up both of you. Which option would you choose? And is the fact that these men are criminal thugs going to change based on your choice?

If we were whores without any dignity, then sure, we could just choose the least bad of the criminal pimps that wanted to own us. But we are not whores, we are people with dignity who will fight for our freedom regardless of the odds.

Regarding "waiting for the balance of power to change", I would be more than happy if we didn't have to wait and we could achieve a solution now. Unfortunately a solution is not possible now, and therefore waiting and keep fighting is really our only option. Using your own argument of "options", keep fighting is the best option we have, because the alternative would officially partition Cyprus, while at the same time give to the Turks control over the whole island.

by **denizaksulu** » Thu May 26, 2011 10:52 am

Paphitis wrote:
Bananiot wrote:I know Piratis (and paphitis), blame the Americans for all our ailments and achieve sainthood. One day we just might grow up, in the meantime, take a crush course in "real politik" and do yourself a favour.

Paphitis, how is Christofias doing down under? Are you looking after him.

I was invited to a coctail party funded by the Premiers Office but will not be attending.

The Australian Government have control over everything and most Cypriots will never have a chance to meet him. Shame really.

Only people who are invited can go, and I don't want to get involved.

My wife actually got uninvited.

I guess Christofias will have to come back and see his people. The real diaspora and not the Cafe Latte Chardonnay set!

The President of SEKA didn't even get an invite. MP Julian Steffani wasn't invited because he is Liberal even though he was President of Paseka for a couple of years.

I choose to not involve myself with Cypriots and Greeks a long time ago Bananiot. I need my sanity.

Dare I say, that out of the 150 guests invited, most are Kalamaras. You will be able to play spot the Cypriot. They can obviously spot Christofias but one would think he is the President of Greece.

Btw Bananiot! Piratis is absolutely correct. Whilst I don't believe in the many nonsense stories of subversives being paid by the US Government, or US pilots flying Turkish aircraft and what not, the US did play a role and they could have stopped the invasion if they wanted to. I think by 1974, the US Government was fed up with the Red Priest and gave him something to worry about. The US had all bases covered, including the undesired threat of war between Greece and Turkey in NATO's southern flank.

Yes, at the time, the US and the USSR were preparing their war machines, and Makarios became an unwanted nuisance.

I am a big believer in O'Malley's brilliant and insightful book!

Having just finished O'Malley's book, I was just about to ask if any others believe everything mentioned in 'the Cyprus Conspiracy'. I have your answer at least.

by **Paphitis** » Thu May 26, 2011 10:58 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Bananiot wrote:I know Piratis (and paphitis), blame the Americans for all our ailments and achieve sainthood. One day we just might grow up, in the meantime, take a crush course in "real politik" and do yourself a favour.

Paphitis, how is Christofias doing down under? Are you looking after him.

I was invited to a coctail party funded by the Premiers Office but will not be attending.

The Australian Government have control over everything and most Cypriots will never have a chance to meet him. Shame really.

Only people who are invited can go, and I don't want to get involved.

My wife actually got uninvited.

I guess Christofias will have to come back and see his people. The real diaspora and not the Cafe Latte Chardonnay set!

The President of SEKA didn't even get an invite. MP Julian Steffani wasn't invited because he is Liberal even though he was President of Paseka for a couple of years.

I choose to not involve myself with Cypriots and Greeks a long time ago Bananiot. I need my sanity.

Dare I say, that out of the 150 guests invited, most are Kalamaras. You will be able to play spot the Cypriot. They can obviously spot Christofias but one would think he is the President of Greece.

Btw Bananiot! Piratis is absolutely correct. Whilst I don't believe in the many nonsense stories of subversives being paid by the US Government, or US pilots flying Turkish aircraft and what not, the US did play a role and they could have stopped the invasion if they wanted to. I think by 1974, the US Government was fed up with the Red Priest and gave him something to worry about. The US had all bases covered, including the undesired threat of war between Greece and Turkey in NATO's southern flank.

Yes, at the time, the US and the USSR were preparing their war machines, and Makarios became an unwanted nuisance.

I am a big believer in O'Malley's brilliant and insightful book!

Having just finished O'Malley's book, I was just about to ask if any others believe everything mentioned in 'the Cyprus Conspiracy'. I have your answer at least.

He was well researched Deniz, and I believe that O'Malley is more or less on the mark.

In a few more years, we will know for sure as Secret files are unclassified.

What about yourself?

by **denizaksulu** » Thu May 26, 2011 11:11 am

All believable P. Regardless of dish we were fed. I followed the invasion ESP the period between the 1st and 2nd phases. We were led to believe
That the 2nd phase was in order to protect the high concentration of troops on the immediate area surrounding the beach head and their safety from HAF or GC artillery bombardment. Nothing of this was mentioned and it has got me thinking......

As you say well researched. Not a book I would pass on to friends, as I would like to refer to it again......in 50 years time, when the secret files are...........