Bananiot wrote:Paphitis, I know you are far away but this is not an excuse to make a fool of yourself by seconding the cheap ranting of Piratis. Many people who supported the Annan Plan were elected with flying colours on Sunday. In fact, hardliners who banked on the “NO” vote to make a political career have seen the exit, like, Kolokasides, Sizopoulos, Themistocleous, Rikkos and others. EYROKO, the single monolithic party on the Annan Plan, that built a reputation for being stanchly anti BBF too, has lost half its electorate. What happened in 2004 did not have an impact in these elections. It is clear that 2004 is now dead and buried and it is now behind us. I will not claim that the majority of the AKEL and DISI elected MP's are staunch or moderate supporters of the Annan Plan, because I would fall into the same hole Piratis keeps jumping in.
Where did I say that what happened in 2004 had any impact in this elections? In fact the position of the parties about Annan plan hardly had any impact on any elections, otherwise DISY would have lost 2/3rds of its power, as this was the percentage of DISY supporters who did not follow the advice of their party to vote "yes" in the referendum.
It is obvious that when it comes to parties most Cypriots vote for their friends and relatives and those with whom they have connections with (so they can later ask for rousfetti) and secondly based on the ideology of the party, and not based on the position of the parties in the Cyprus Problem.
Pourgourides was not a member of EOKA B as far as I remember. In fact, in 1974 he was a student in London. It is true that he supported the National Front, like many GC's at the time, but he had the b*lls to apologise publicly, something that is so rare in Cyprus. The allegation by Piratis that EOKA B members were following orders from America is utterly unfounded and stupid since this theory that aims at shifting the blame to the others (our favourite pastime) has been reduced to smithereens by the recent files of the era that have been made public. It does not, in any case, take a nuclear scientist, to understand that a coup in Cyprus in 1974 was not in the interests of America and her allies since the eastern Mediterranean wing of NATO was at stake, in the midst of the cold war.
Pourgourides was an EOKA B member and there is as much proof for this as there is for any other person which you accused for being an EOKA B member.
As far as the involvement of Americans, there is no doubt that CIA was behind the Coupists in Greece and that they wanted to get rid of the "Red Monk of the Mediterranean Cuba". Both the Turkish Generals and the Greek Generals had the support of CIA, and the eastern Mediterranean wing of NATO of was not at stake at all, since the actions of both Greece and Turkey in 1974 were predetermined.
If you believe that the Americans and CIA are so nice that they would not do such things, particularly during the Cold War era, then you are extremely naive. The CIA was behind many coups and other similar actions, not just in Greece and Cyprus but all over the world.
Furthermore, Piratis claims that DIKO paid the price for staying in the government. Again, this is totally unfounded. Take EDEK, who did the normal for this party, leave government in protest after one year. How much has this helped EDEK? Zero, absolutely nothing, so what in heaven are you on Piratis?
If DIKO did what EDEK did, then DIKO could also maintain its power like EDEK. Of course that might not be the only reason. Another one is that DIKO doesn't have a strong leadership anymore, as it had with Papadopoulos.
