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[Bananiot]

Bamyes Deniz, not bamyades, although bamyades sounds rather good too.

[supporttheunderdog]

If it makes you feel any better, you are of Greek origin too, Deniz. You have the blood of Socrates and Plato running in your blood vessels or, you share some of their genes.

You never know Bananiot. My English name apparently is derived from Dionysius.

My neighbour Flora just left, She cooked some Okra/Bamyades and brought some over. (what a lovely Cypriot tradition ). I was trying to see some traces of 'Chinese' in her to no avail. I did keep my mouth shut, her 'curses' are powerful.

Are you sure your possible Greek ancestors were not of this alleged Chines-Afro extraction - after all Sulu sounds like Zulu and it seems that sounding close enough is all it takes that or you are Japanese after that charcter in Star Trek: that or was Klik the role model for the father in "My big fat Greek wedding"?

[Bananiot]

The father "tell me any English word and I will tell from which Greek word it was derived" ...

[denizaksulu]

Bamyes Deniz, not bamyades, although bamyades sounds rather good too.

Ok:oops:. What is bamyades? Ofcourse I meant okra.

[yialousa1971]

Deniz, the boy klik has visions of a Greek empire stretching from Spain to China. Please do not demoralize him. Let him live his wet dreams cause his normal life is quite pointless. Especially now that Greece itself is in the shit.

well come to forum Zeki,

his wet dreams will not come true ........ we, the Turkish Cypriots will not allow

let them to under estimate Turkish Cypriots factor..... Still Hellenes did not get their lessons from the past.

as a Turkish Cypriots we are all aware of these types.
Everyone will take the necessary lessons :!:

Still Hellenes did not get their lessons from the past.

What lessons were those you fat little Pig, rape, murder and genocide?........

[yialousa1971]

Youloser - you should go far - the further the better because with people like you and that sick bunch of racists in Elam there will never be a settlement but by way of partition or by way of the Turks rolling you up and throwing the Greek speaking Cypriots out - Neither are desireable but with your narrow minded bigotory you are blind to the truth, and that is that It was the promotion of the Hellensitic megali/ Enosis idea that helped lead to the initial partion of the Isalnd in 1963 and the 1974 invasion, giving the Turks the excuses they needed, and unless the Hellenistic Megali/Enosis Idea is completely dropped, and you accept the primacy of your Cypriotness and the equality of Turkish speaking Cypriots, the Turkish army is here to stay.

Not what true lovers of Cyprus should want.

But then, you are not a lover of Cyprus, but along with all of those are still pursuit of Enosis a Junta remnant.

Get lost Anglo, we all know who brought the Turks back to Cyprus, yes it was the Anglos/Anglo Americans!

Bollocks! Turkey we never going to tollerate Cyprus as a part of Greece - `they had and have too many memories of the Greek attempt at Lebensraum called Megali in the 1920's: they were therefore always going to seek to involve themselves in Cyprus - Enosis as a dream should have ended in 1960, but the continuing desire for enosis turned into the nightmare that resulted in the defacto partioning of the Island in 1963. That was largely a home grown nightmare: what happned in 1974 with attempted Greek Junta invasion in 1974 also required local assistance, by people like you.

As it is, you and racist facist scum of your type have nothing to contribute to ending the illegal occupation of the north side of the Island by Turkey, except bile and hate, a Turkey which, despite all the UN resolutions and high words of many countries, are still there, and (right or probably wrong) unless there is something in it for Turkey there will be no change to that.

Go back to Mongolia , Turd........

[supporttheunderdog]

WTF should I, you bit of shit!

[Klik]

Interesting that anytime anyone disagrees with you, you create a fake image of how you want that person to be portrayed in your minds because you dislike the hard truth. Just because I posted one link that involved that archeologist and 5 other links that had nothing to do with her, I have suddenly become a fan of her??

You people are the Cyprus problem. The longer you continue to have these dreams, the longer people in Cyprus will continue to resist to your obsessions and cause this friction. At least we have a long bloodline to defend on this place... And please don't say that you got a bloodline here as well because that bloodline was the one that massacred over 200.000 Cypriots in the past... As for those who claim that the people are the same etc, well they couldn't be more wrong as far as the majority is concerned. I think over 20.000 Ottoman FAMILIES coming 500 years ago given the rate of birth they always had and compared to the janissaires of Cyprus who probably were 5.000 makes it pretty obvious how the demographics changed in the island... Those 20.000 families + the existing 5.000 troops and any families they had, that just shows what the plan was, to Turkify the island.

It's even on a book on the 17th century where the Ottoman sultan had said/written that he intended to wipe out any Greekness in the island and bring more settlers. Apparently it didn't work. Seems that this remains Turkey's policy in the 20th and 21st century as it keeps flooding the place with Turks. As for those who 'changed faith', the Linobambakoi, they are real of course, but even in the Turkish community they are a tiny minority.
104.942 was the Turks in Cyprus in 1960. Given the numbers we have about Ottoman settlers, it doesn't give much space for the descendants of 'converts', around 5-10 thousands. Add to them around 10 thousands who could be descendants of the janissaires... 45.000 at least Ottomans to begin with from 1570 (5.000 troops + 40.000 at least since family has at least 2 members), then we have to estimate descendants... Get real please, you would have more luck winning the lottery three times in a row than having non-Ottoman blood.
1977, Cypriot estimation, 90.600 are Turks pre-invasion plus 85.000 Turkish settlers. Estimations of around 45.000 pre-invasion Turks who have migrated from Cyprus.

Are you gonna call me a fascist, an Orthodox priest, an extremist or a rascist this time?

Another question. Are my boats still in the Keryneia port? Family had 3 of them there and don't want to mention the property in Keryneia, Ammochostos and Lefkosia that is now in the hands of Turks...

As for racism, fascism etc, as long as you people claim that Turkey LIBERATED you in 1974, you are the root of any problem. If you love Turkey so much, pack your stuff and return home. Before any smartass says the same thing about me and Greece, because the person who'd say this has no sense of reality and history, Cyprus is Greece, part of Hellinism.

EDIT:
1931

Cypriots demanding Enosis, the union with Greece, instigated their first serious riots. The government-house in Nicosia was burned down; martial law was declared afterwards and the legislative council was abolished. The Greek National Anthem and the display of the Greek flag were banned. The British invented the terms "Greek Cypriot" and "Turkish Cypriot" and used the latter against the "Greek Cypriots" so as to cease Enosis demands.

[Zeki]

Youloser - you should go far - the further the better because with people like you and that sick bunch of racists in Elam there will never be a settlement but by way of partition or by way of the Turks rolling you up and throwing the Greek speaking Cypriots out - Neither are desireable but with your narrow minded bigotory you are blind to the truth, and that is that It was the promotion of the Hellensitic megali/ Enosis idea that helped lead to the initial partion of the Isalnd in 1963 and the 1974 invasion, giving the Turks the excuses they needed, and unless the Hellenistic Megali/Enosis Idea is completely dropped, and you accept the primacy of your Cypriotness and the equality of Turkish speaking Cypriots, the Turkish army is here to stay.

Not what true lovers of Cyprus should want.

But then, you are not a lover of Cyprus, but along with all of those are still pursuit of Enosis a Junta remnant.

Get lost Anglo, we all know who brought the Turks back to Cyprus, yes it was the Anglos/Anglo Americans!

Bollocks! Turkey we never going to tollerate Cyprus as a part of Greece - `they had and have too many memories of the Greek attempt at Lebensraum called Megali in the 1920's: they were therefore always going to seek to involve themselves in Cyprus - Enosis as a dream should have ended in 1960, but the continuing desire for enosis turned into the nightmare that resulted in the defacto partioning of the Island in 1963. That was largely a home grown nightmare: what happned in 1974 with attempted Greek Junta invasion in 1974 also required local assistance, by people like you.

As it is, you and racist facist scum of your type have nothing to contribute to ending the illegal occupation of the north side of the Island by Turkey, except bile and hate, a Turkey which, despite all the UN resolutions and high words of many countries, are still there, and (right or probably wrong) unless there is something in it for Turkey there will be no change to that.

Go back to Mongolia , Turd........

Considering Greece was under Ottoman rule for 400 years, that puts you to DNA 100% shit, don't you think?

[denizaksulu]

Interesting that anytime anyone disagrees with you, you create a fake image of how you want that person to be portrayed in your minds because you dislike the hard truth. Just because I posted one link that involved that archeologist and 5 other links that had nothing to do with her, I have suddenly become a fan of her??

You people are the Cyprus problem. The longer you continue to have these dreams, the longer people in Cyprus will continue to resist to your obsessions and cause this friction. At least we have a long bloodline to defend on this place... And please don't say that you got a bloodline here as well because that bloodline was the one that massacred over 200.000 Cypriots in the past... As for those who claim that the people are the same etc, well they couldn't be more wrong as far as the majority is concerned. I think over 20.000 Ottoman FAMILIES coming 500 years ago given the rate of birth they always had and compared to the janissaires of Cyprus who probably were 5.000 makes it pretty obvious how the demographics changed in the island... Those 20.000 families + the existing 5.000 troops and any families they had, that just shows what the plan was, to Turkify the island.

It's even on a book on the 17th century where the Ottoman sultan had said/written that he intended to wipe out any Greekness in the island and bring more settlers. Apparently it didn't work. Seems that this remains Turkey's policy in the 20th and 21st century as it keeps flooding the place with Turks. As for those who 'changed faith', the Linobambakoi, they are real of course, but even in the Turkish community they are a tiny minority.
104.942 was the Turks in Cyprus in 1960. Given the numbers we have about Ottoman settlers, it doesn't give much space for the descendants of 'converts', around 5-10 thousands. Add to them around 10 thousands who could be descendants of the janissaires... 45.000 at least Ottomans to begin with from 1570 (5.000 troops + 40.000 at least since family has at least 2 members), then we have to estimate descendants... Get real please, you would have more luck winning the lottery three times in a row than having non-Ottoman blood.
1977, Cypriot estimation, 90.600 are Turks pre-invasion plus 85.000 Turkish settlers. Estimations of around 45.000 pre-invasion Turks who have migrated from Cyprus.

Are you gonna call me a fascist, an Orthodox priest, an extremist or a rascist this time?

Another question. Are my boats still in the Keryneia port? Family had 3 of them there and don't want to mention the property in Keryneia, Ammochostos and Lefkosia that is now in the hands of Turks...

As for racism, fascism etc, as long as you people claim that Turkey LIBERATED you in 1974, you are the root of any problem. If you love Turkey so much, pack your stuff and return home. Before any smartass says the same thing about me and Greece, because the person who'd say this has no sense of reality and history, Cyprus is Greece, part of Hellinism.

EDIT:
1931

Cypriots demanding Enosis, the union with Greece, instigated their first serious riots. The government-house in Nicosia was burned down; martial law was declared afterwards and the legislative council was abolished. The Greek National Anthem and the display of the Greek flag were banned. The British invented the terms "Greek Cypriot" and "Turkish Cypriot" and used the latter against the "Greek Cypriots" so as to cease Enosis demands.

Kliks, it would be a good idea to address the person you are responding to. My response to you was regarding your 'so-called research and nothing else. But if you are going to deny us our heritage simply because you have been in Cyprus longer, there we have a problem. Just get over it. Under the RoC constition Cyprus is the TC's homeland. If you dispute that, then take it up with your leaders, but I doubt that will get you anywhere. With attitude like yours fuelling the right wing fascists, no wonder we will get nowhere with the ongoing talks.