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[boomerang]

you are wrong my friend, the point is if everyone remained silent thiws will be going for ever...in this instance, underage marriage to an overgrown man, coupled by immediate family ties is absolutely wrong...you know it, i know it everyone knows it...and for bir to come out and say we should show tolerance towards other peoples customs is purely wrong....

There is nothing wrong wrong or excibiting prejudice exposing something is wrong...

the examples of stoning and curring off girls genitalia are more examples that discredit bir's arguments...either you voice it or pit up with it...i guess i chose to voice it...

further more this topic only highlighted the backwardness of a highly educated individual...what on earth was he thinking off?...

i could understand and said it many times, a peasnt doing it due to lack of education, but the then future president of a country?...

now you see how europeans see Gul...and don't tell me they would approve this because of tolerance...western society will never accept this...hell many muslims wouldn't...i know quite a few that wouldn't and call him backwards...why then the tcs would try and justify this when even the turks abhort this action?...you think turks are prejudice and show ignorange at their own people?...

why not join the other forum and ask the question deniz?...

I will stick to the cf. Cyprus is my chief interest, so I guess you are stuck with me.

I will not be a party to you and Birs differences except that he is intelligent enough not to condone the subject at hand.

you disappoint me deniz...this is what he said...

He will sink to any lowly act of bastardy to try to discredit anyone and anything remotely associated with Turkishness or the Islamic culture and traditions...

stoning is an islamic culture and tradition...and i could name you a dozen others along with underage pimping to an overgrown over educated man...all in the name of islam...yeah a very intelligent statement from bir...so by attacking it i am sinking to a lowly act of bastardy...what a dickhead...

I disappoint quite often. Can not be helped. Show me an instance where what Bir said is untrue in this context and quote, then I may criticise him. Yet isnt it true that a number of Oz GCs enjot T/TC baiting? I find it shameful. TC have always been 10 steps ahead of Turks from Turkey in their liberalism and anything else that you can think of.

well in this thread with not only a disgusting fist post but with a blackmail as welll...and then in his second posts to defend his bullshit comment drags wifes in it ...while a personal attack on me...i was amazed at his level of intelligence...his stupidity knowsno bounds...

as far as tcs being 10 steps infront of the turks, how come then you islam boys took offence to what this posts was all about, huh?...

you might have been 10 steps ahead, but it looks to me you are 10 steps behind as we speak deniz...

[boomerang]

Let’s not get over excited about my compatriot from down under. We are not all like him. He comes up with such crap. How is marrying a 16 year old a paedophile activity? And when has consensual sex become a rape? There are no virgins in the western world above the age of 14 so there must be a hell of a lot of paedophiles in the west. If Mohammed married a 7 year old it was 1500 years ago my friend, kindly wake up. If there is female circumcisions considering there are approximately 1.5 billion Muslims in the world what percentage of the Muslims actually circumcise their daughters except a few perhaps in the depths of Africa.
Boomerang is acting like a rabid dog. I am no psychologist but I get a feeling he is suffering from something which he has not divulged but I would recommend he does it to the professionals rather than on the forum

You must have been a beautiful baby ...costa the impostar...

cheers

ahmat

[boomerang]

nothing stops costa from a true diagnosis...even through the darkest night...

cheers

ahmat

[denizaksulu]

you are wrong my friend, the point is if everyone remained silent thiws will be going for ever...in this instance, underage marriage to an overgrown man, coupled by immediate family ties is absolutely wrong...you know it, i know it everyone knows it...and for bir to come out and say we should show tolerance towards other peoples customs is purely wrong....

There is nothing wrong wrong or excibiting prejudice exposing something is wrong...

the examples of stoning and curring off girls genitalia are more examples that discredit bir's arguments...either you voice it or pit up with it...i guess i chose to voice it...

further more this topic only highlighted the backwardness of a highly educated individual...what on earth was he thinking off?...

i could understand and said it many times, a peasnt doing it due to lack of education, but the then future president of a country?...

now you see how europeans see Gul...and don't tell me they would approve this because of tolerance...western society will never accept this...hell many muslims wouldn't...i know quite a few that wouldn't and call him backwards...why then the tcs would try and justify this when even the turks abhort this action?...you think turks are prejudice and show ignorange at their own people?...

why not join the other forum and ask the question deniz?...

I will stick to the cf. Cyprus is my chief interest, so I guess you are stuck with me.

I will not be a party to you and Birs differences except that he is intelligent enough not to condone the subject at hand.

you disappoint me deniz...this is what he said...

He will sink to any lowly act of bastardy to try to discredit anyone and anything remotely associated with Turkishness or the Islamic culture and traditions...

stoning is an islamic culture and tradition...and i could name you a dozen others along with underage pimping to an overgrown over educated man...all in the name of islam...yeah a very intelligent statement from bir...so by attacking it i am sinking to a lowly act of bastardy...what a dickhead...

I disappoint quite often. Can not be helped. Show me an instance where what Bir said is untrue in this context and quote, then I may criticise him. Yet isnt it true that a number of Oz GCs enjot T/TC baiting? I find it shameful. TC have always been 10 steps ahead of Turks from Turkey in their liberalism and anything else that you can think of.

well in this thread with not only a disgusting fist post but with a blackmail as welll...and then in his second posts to defend his bullshit comment drags wifes in it ...while a personal attack on me...i was amazed at his level of intelligence...his stupidity knowsno bounds...

as far as tcs being 10 steps infront of the turks, how come then you islam boys took offence to what this posts was all about, huh?...

you might have been 10 steps ahead, but it looks to me you are 10 steps behind as we speak deniz...

'Islam boys'; only you could come up with that crap.

[denizaksulu]

Let’s not get over excited about my compatriot from down under. We are not all like him. He comes up with such crap. How is marrying a 16 year old a paedophile activity? And when has consensual sex become a rape? There are no virgins in the western world above the age of 14 so there must be a hell of a lot of paedophiles in the west. If Mohammed married a 7 year old it was 1500 years ago my friend, kindly wake up. If there is female circumcisions considering there are approximately 1.5 billion Muslims in the world what percentage of the Muslims actually circumcise their daughters except a few perhaps in the depths of Africa.
Boomerang is acting like a rabid dog. I am no psychologist but I get a feeling he is suffering from something which he has not divulged but I would recommend he does it to the professionals rather than on the forum

[boomerang]

Forced marriage in Turkey under spotlight at İstanbul conference

The “Active Against Forced Marriages” conference, organized by the Women for Women’s Human Rights (WWHR)-New Ways, was held in İstanbul on Thursday.
The issue of forced marriages in Turkey was discussed at the “Active against Forced Marriages” conference on Thursday aiming to raise awareness of the issue and offer solutions to combat the threat to women’s human rights.

Organized by the Women for Women’s Human Rights (WWHR)-New Ways, the event was the fourth in a series of conferences in İstanbul. Representatives from NGOs as well as government institutions attended the conference.
Speaking a press conference after discussion sessions, WWHR-New Ways board member Efsa Kurener said that despite the advent of the 21st century, forced and early marriages continued to constitute a serious violation of the human rights of the members of both sexes, regardless of their religion, country, ethnicity or social status.

Experts highlighted the significance of public awareness in tackling with the problem of forced marriage, in Turkey mostly seen in the eastern regions but also occurring in the country’s west. WWHR-New Ways Co-coordinator Karin Ronge said that in the past, women were often unaware of their existing legal rights and therefore lacked the strategies to overcome violations of their rights in both the public and private spheres. Furthermore, she noted a lack of independent grassroots organizing among women, saying, “Women now are more interested in such matters.” The conference program stressed that the more young girls know about their legal rights, the better chances they have of resisting an undesired marriage. While Ronge argued that customary practices and patriarchal traditions rather than laws shaped many women’s lives, Müjgan Güneri from the Van Women’s Association (VAKAD) emphasized that girls aware of their legal rights opposed their families, recalling those rights and hinting that they might exercise them if necessary, causing their families to back down.

However according to experts, a rising level of awareness alone is not enough. Güneri asserted that a lack of economic independence drove women to give in to forced marriages or continue the marriage they were forced into. “Government institutions must take steps, and women should be provided with vocational training,” Güneri noted. On the other hand, emphasizing that every woman has a different approach to overcoming the violation of her rights, Ronge added, “We have to develop training programs for women so that they can become agents of their own rights.”

Moreover, several representatives from organizations working for the rights of Turkish women living in European countries highlighted the problems of Turkish migrants forced into undesired marriages. According to political scientist Rahel Volz, who works for German women’s rights organization Terre Des Femmes, Turkish women in Germany are usually forced into marriages due to their families’ fear of losing their own cultural identity, attempts to preserve family honor and conflicts between first, second and third generations. “Forced marriage is a way for the first generation to gain power over the second and third generations,” she argued.

Meanwhile, the importance of the Human Rights Education Program initiated by the WWHR-New Ways, which was implemented in many cities in Turkey to enable women to learn about their rights as equal citizens and exercise their rights in everyday life, was also underlined during the conference. Commenting on the matter, Ronge argued that the program was a powerful tool for social change.

Among other speakers at the conference were UK Vice Consul in İstanbul Nicole Sauvage; leading women’s rights activist Pınar İlkkaracan, also one of the co-founders of the WWHR; and Purple Roof Foundation co-founder Canan Arın.

WWHR-New Ways is was established as an NGO in 1993 to defend and promote women’s human rights in Turkey and internationally.

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=144818

good news at last....and here comes the but...

the turks see a problem, how come you morons don't see it?...

rather as bir said,

He will sink to any lowly act of bastardy to try to discredit anyone and anything remotely associated with Turkishness or the Islamic culture and traditions

wow boys and girls, the turks see something with forced marriages, but you guys are ok with it?...great going bir...

[boomerang]

you are wrong my friend, the point is if everyone remained silent thiws will be going for ever...in this instance, underage marriage to an overgrown man, coupled by immediate family ties is absolutely wrong...you know it, i know it everyone knows it...and for bir to come out and say we should show tolerance towards other peoples customs is purely wrong....

There is nothing wrong wrong or excibiting prejudice exposing something is wrong...

the examples of stoning and curring off girls genitalia are more examples that discredit bir's arguments...either you voice it or pit up with it...i guess i chose to voice it...

further more this topic only highlighted the backwardness of a highly educated individual...what on earth was he thinking off?...

i could understand and said it many times, a peasnt doing it due to lack of education, but the then future president of a country?...

now you see how europeans see Gul...and don't tell me they would approve this because of tolerance...western society will never accept this...hell many muslims wouldn't...i know quite a few that wouldn't and call him backwards...why then the tcs would try and justify this when even the turks abhort this action?...you think turks are prejudice and show ignorange at their own people?...

why not join the other forum and ask the question deniz?...

I will stick to the cf. Cyprus is my chief interest, so I guess you are stuck with me.

I will not be a party to you and Birs differences except that he is intelligent enough not to condone the subject at hand.

you disappoint me deniz...this is what he said...

He will sink to any lowly act of bastardy to try to discredit anyone and anything remotely associated with Turkishness or the Islamic culture and traditions...

stoning is an islamic culture and tradition...and i could name you a dozen others along with underage pimping to an overgrown over educated man...all in the name of islam...yeah a very intelligent statement from bir...so by attacking it i am sinking to a lowly act of bastardy...what a dickhead...

I disappoint quite often. Can not be helped. Show me an instance where what Bir said is untrue in this context and quote, then I may criticise him. Yet isnt it true that a number of Oz GCs enjot T/TC baiting? I find it shameful. TC have always been 10 steps ahead of Turks from Turkey in their liberalism and anything else that you can think of.

well in this thread with not only a disgusting fist post but with a blackmail as welll...and then in his second posts to defend his bullshit comment drags wifes in it ...while a personal attack on me...i was amazed at his level of intelligence...his stupidity knowsno bounds...

as far as tcs being 10 steps infront of the turks, how come then you islam boys took offence to what this posts was all about, huh?...

you might have been 10 steps ahead, but it looks to me you are 10 steps behind as we speak deniz...

'Islam boys'; only you could come up with that crap.

what i am a christian boy...so what?...are you offended?...by your religion perhaps?...

[denizaksulu]

you are wrong my friend, the point is if everyone remained silent thiws will be going for ever...in this instance, underage marriage to an overgrown man, coupled by immediate family ties is absolutely wrong...you know it, i know it everyone knows it...and for bir to come out and say we should show tolerance towards other peoples customs is purely wrong....

There is nothing wrong wrong or excibiting prejudice exposing something is wrong...

the examples of stoning and curring off girls genitalia are more examples that discredit bir's arguments...either you voice it or pit up with it...i guess i chose to voice it...

further more this topic only highlighted the backwardness of a highly educated individual...what on earth was he thinking off?...

i could understand and said it many times, a peasnt doing it due to lack of education, but the then future president of a country?...

now you see how europeans see Gul...and don't tell me they would approve this because of tolerance...western society will never accept this...hell many muslims wouldn't...i know quite a few that wouldn't and call him backwards...why then the tcs would try and justify this when even the turks abhort this action?...you think turks are prejudice and show ignorange at their own people?...

why not join the other forum and ask the question deniz?...

I will stick to the cf. Cyprus is my chief interest, so I guess you are stuck with me.

I will not be a party to you and Birs differences except that he is intelligent enough not to condone the subject at hand.

you disappoint me deniz...this is what he said...

He will sink to any lowly act of bastardy to try to discredit anyone and anything remotely associated with Turkishness or the Islamic culture and traditions...

stoning is an islamic culture and tradition...and i could name you a dozen others along with underage pimping to an overgrown over educated man...all in the name of islam...yeah a very intelligent statement from bir...so by attacking it i am sinking to a lowly act of bastardy...what a dickhead...

I disappoint quite often. Can not be helped. Show me an instance where what Bir said is untrue in this context and quote, then I may criticise him. Yet isnt it true that a number of Oz GCs enjot T/TC baiting? I find it shameful. TC have always been 10 steps ahead of Turks from Turkey in their liberalism and anything else that you can think of.

well in this thread with not only a disgusting fist post but with a blackmail as welll...and then in his second posts to defend his bullshit comment drags wifes in it ...while a personal attack on me...i was amazed at his level of intelligence...his stupidity knowsno bounds...

as far as tcs being 10 steps infront of the turks, how come then you islam boys took offence to what this posts was all about, huh?...

you might have been 10 steps ahead, but it looks to me you are 10 steps behind as we speak deniz...

'Islam boys'; only you could come up with that crap.

what i am a christian boy...so what?...are you offended?...by your religion perhaps?...

Religion pays no part in my life so ..........................

[boomerang]

you are wrong my friend, the point is if everyone remained silent thiws will be going for ever...in this instance, underage marriage to an overgrown man, coupled by immediate family ties is absolutely wrong...you know it, i know it everyone knows it...and for bir to come out and say we should show tolerance towards other peoples customs is purely wrong....

There is nothing wrong wrong or excibiting prejudice exposing something is wrong...

the examples of stoning and curring off girls genitalia are more examples that discredit bir's arguments...either you voice it or pit up with it...i guess i chose to voice it...

further more this topic only highlighted the backwardness of a highly educated individual...what on earth was he thinking off?...

i could understand and said it many times, a peasnt doing it due to lack of education, but the then future president of a country?...

now you see how europeans see Gul...and don't tell me they would approve this because of tolerance...western society will never accept this...hell many muslims wouldn't...i know quite a few that wouldn't and call him backwards...why then the tcs would try and justify this when even the turks abhort this action?...you think turks are prejudice and show ignorange at their own people?...

why not join the other forum and ask the question deniz?...

I will stick to the cf. Cyprus is my chief interest, so I guess you are stuck with me.

I will not be a party to you and Birs differences except that he is intelligent enough not to condone the subject at hand.

you disappoint me deniz...this is what he said...

He will sink to any lowly act of bastardy to try to discredit anyone and anything remotely associated with Turkishness or the Islamic culture and traditions...

stoning is an islamic culture and tradition...and i could name you a dozen others along with underage pimping to an overgrown over educated man...all in the name of islam...yeah a very intelligent statement from bir...so by attacking it i am sinking to a lowly act of bastardy...what a dickhead...

I disappoint quite often. Can not be helped. Show me an instance where what Bir said is untrue in this context and quote, then I may criticise him. Yet isnt it true that a number of Oz GCs enjot T/TC baiting? I find it shameful. TC have always been 10 steps ahead of Turks from Turkey in their liberalism and anything else that you can think of.

well in this thread with not only a disgusting fist post but with a blackmail as welll...and then in his second posts to defend his bullshit comment drags wifes in it ...while a personal attack on me...i was amazed at his level of intelligence...his stupidity knowsno bounds...

as far as tcs being 10 steps infront of the turks, how come then you islam boys took offence to what this posts was all about, huh?...

you might have been 10 steps ahead, but it looks to me you are 10 steps behind as we speak deniz...

'Islam boys'; only you could come up with that crap.

what i am a christian boy...so what?...are you offended?...by your religion perhaps?...

Religion pays no part in my life so ..........................

that might be so...today...but we as people get older, with the end at sight, we can't seem to resist the power of the unknown...

[denizaksulu]

you are wrong my friend, the point is if everyone remained silent thiws will be going for ever...in this instance, underage marriage to an overgrown man, coupled by immediate family ties is absolutely wrong...you know it, i know it everyone knows it...and for bir to come out and say we should show tolerance towards other peoples customs is purely wrong....

There is nothing wrong wrong or excibiting prejudice exposing something is wrong...

the examples of stoning and curring off girls genitalia are more examples that discredit bir's arguments...either you voice it or pit up with it...i guess i chose to voice it...

further more this topic only highlighted the backwardness of a highly educated individual...what on earth was he thinking off?...

i could understand and said it many times, a peasnt doing it due to lack of education, but the then future president of a country?...

now you see how europeans see Gul...and don't tell me they would approve this because of tolerance...western society will never accept this...hell many muslims wouldn't...i know quite a few that wouldn't and call him backwards...why then the tcs would try and justify this when even the turks abhort this action?...you think turks are prejudice and show ignorange at their own people?...

why not join the other forum and ask the question deniz?...

I will stick to the cf. Cyprus is my chief interest, so I guess you are stuck with me.

I will not be a party to you and Birs differences except that he is intelligent enough not to condone the subject at hand.

you disappoint me deniz...this is what he said...

He will sink to any lowly act of bastardy to try to discredit anyone and anything remotely associated with Turkishness or the Islamic culture and traditions...

stoning is an islamic culture and tradition...and i could name you a dozen others along with underage pimping to an overgrown over educated man...all in the name of islam...yeah a very intelligent statement from bir...so by attacking it i am sinking to a lowly act of bastardy...what a dickhead...

I disappoint quite often. Can not be helped. Show me an instance where what Bir said is untrue in this context and quote, then I may criticise him. Yet isnt it true that a number of Oz GCs enjot T/TC baiting? I find it shameful. TC have always been 10 steps ahead of Turks from Turkey in their liberalism and anything else that you can think of.

well in this thread with not only a disgusting fist post but with a blackmail as welll...and then in his second posts to defend his bullshit comment drags wifes in it ...while a personal attack on me...i was amazed at his level of intelligence...his stupidity knowsno bounds...

as far as tcs being 10 steps infront of the turks, how come then you islam boys took offence to what this posts was all about, huh?...

you might have been 10 steps ahead, but it looks to me you are 10 steps behind as we speak deniz...

'Islam boys'; only you could come up with that crap.

what i am a christian boy...so what?...are you offended?...by your religion perhaps?...

Religion pays no part in my life so ..........................

that might be so...today...but we as people get older, with the end at sight, we can't seem to resist the power of the unknown...

Lets discuss this when stone throwing and forced marriages happens in Cyprus.