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Postby Paphitis » Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:32 pm

miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:""First (inaudible) Greece intervened in the internal affairs of Cyprus with President Makarios. They achieved this for one week and this was enough to give the pretext to Turkey to invade Cyprus and until now Turkey by 37 percent of the island. The consequences were tragic, of course."
Although a badly prepared speech I see nothing inaccurate in the above part of the speech.
Greece INTERVENED , FACT ,
Greece gave turkey the excuse to invade , fact !


Don't be such an idiot.

The illegal Coup was an internal Cypriot matter that did not involve the TC community!

Turkey just took the opportunity to accomplish what it had always planned from 1963 and onwards! It was only a matter of time!


don't be so daft the bloody greeks , you obviously were not around at the time so your knowledge of events that took place are second hand .
Listen stupid , the Greek junta WERE the guilty party who encouraged fucking idiots who still wanted Enosis with the so called motherland , the barbarians who now inhabit Greece !!!
The junta and ONLY the fucking junta were responsible in inviting turkey into Cyprus , everyone knows this apart from obvious plonkers like you !!!
Do listen boy and learn, the Greeks are wholly responsible for the catastrophic events of 1974 , ναι φίλε
ει καλαμαραδες μας γαμισανε κε μιν το χεχνας


You have lost the plot. I suppose the Turkish bombings and the near invasion in 1967 were also Greece's fault!

It's all Greece fault Milti, and in your mind, the UK was and is totally innocent in all this, and heaven forbid someone rightfully mention the fact that it was indeed Henry Kissinger who coordinated all the events leading to the invasion, and he my friend was Secretary of State of the Greatest Nation in the world after Cyprus in your pathetic and sick mind!

I repaet , the Greek officers stationed in Cyprus took their orders from the Greek Junta, no one else. INDISPUTABLE FACT .
The Greek Junta orchestrated the coup against Makarios , INDISPUTABLE FACT.
The invasion by Turkey was as a direct consequense of the stupid actions by the ELLAS ELLINON XRISTIANON bullshiitters , so no more bullshit mate , your mates the poushtokalamarades fucked us and then the bloody cowards deserted us ! FACT !


After assurances from Henry Kissinger but you do not mention this FACT!

Yes that's right, the Greek Junta conducted the Coup AFTER they were assured by Henry Kissinger himself that no one will intervene!
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Postby Paphitis » Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:46 pm

Oracle wrote:
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Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
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Oracle wrote:I think we should find the positive in whoever is leading our country and encourage and support that to fruition.

Right now, I take comfort in the fact our President re-iterates the solution as being of ONE Sovereignty!


Firstly, I got to say that this is a very silly thread.

But I need to ask you. Christofias made some very damaging comments in New York. He compared Greece to Turkey and even stated that Greece had invaded Cyprus first before Turkey, referring to the Coup on 15 Jul 74. Now, this can be taken to mean many things. Some will no doubt manipulate this statement to support Turkey's justification to invade Cyprus, killing thousands, but not the occupation. So how positive for Cyprus do you think Christofias has been in light of his many concessions, including Shared Governance?

I am sorry, but I'm finding it very difficult to remain positive with Christofias at the helm. That does not mean that the Office of the Republic's President does not enjoy the support of all Cypriots.

You are witnessing the most destructive President in Cypriot history. And what is even more sad, is the fact that DIKO is now complicit to the suicidal politics. Shame on them all....

But all this has revealed another positive that has for so long slipped under the radar. Omirou's EDEK should be commended, and he is our only option as the next President of Cyprus! Bravo to him!

And shame to all the rest!!!!


I haven't seen this comparison between Greece and Turkey - could you post it?


No I don't want to post it!

It is all over the net. Just do a search on Christofias speech at Brookings Institute. The Cypriot and Greek media have also covered it extensively.

Anyway, back to the question. Just how positive are you about Christofias and his handling of the Cyprus Issue? :?


Ella reh Paphitis, with your listening to Chinese whispers! :roll:

First (inaudible) Greece intervened in the internal affairs of Cyprus with President Makarios. They achieved this for one week and this was enough to give the pretext to Turkey to invade Cyprus and until now Turkey by 37 percent of the island.


Fortunately for the people of Greece, these criminal actions of the Junda led to the withdrawal of Junda in Greece and the restoration of democracy in the country in which democracy was born.


Dearest Oracle, please read the entire transcript!

http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Files/ ... cyprus.pdf

pay close attention to page 7 and 8!

And please tell me if you truly believe that Christofias has been positive for Cyprus and why? If you have faith in this man, then please tell me what it is that gives you this faith because I really don't have any!

Do you also regret voting NO at the Annan referendum?


I read it dear, Paphitis. He clearly distinguishes the "people of Greece" from the junta's actions. He also uses the term "intervened" when describing the junta's messing with Cyprus' affairs and immediately goes on to describe how this gave "Turkey pretext to invade Cyprus".

I don't have a problem with his descriptions.


But Oracle, this is from page 7:

So as you know, Cyprus is a very, very beautiful island. A whole island. But unfortunately, let me say it’s been raped and we have to restore the visions of Cyprus. The island of Cyprus is famous as the island of love. It is the island of Aphrodite, as you know. And tomorrow, what we are going to do, it’s a witness of what I say now. An island with 10,000 years creation and civilization. Tomorrow I invite you all to the Smithsonian Institution to look at this exhibition. Of course, the past is glorious. Its contribution tells the worldwide civilization but we have to look forward. And the bitter past of the last 40 years, we have to take into account. We have to get lessons from this, but we have to look forward. We have to solve the problem. No other alternative, of course, than the peaceful negotiations between the two communities. And, of course, the involvement at the end of the day of the three guarantor powers which all played a negative role unfortunately towards the developments in Cyprus, the two so-called main lands, in fact, invaded both.


It is badly worded, but it does state that "both motherlands" invaded!


He doesn't use your quote of "both motherlands" anywhere! You are making incorrect assumptions (as are the many who have capitalized on a badly worded and frequently inaudible speech).

He in fact immediately follows up the comment about the THREE guarantor powers' ineffectiveness, and reiterates the earlier points I made with this:

Fortunately for the people of Greece, these criminal actions of the Junda led to the withdrawal of Junda in Greece and the restoration of democracy in the country in which democracy was born.


The take home message is that he is distinguishing the actions of the junta from those of the "people of Greece". It's a rather important distinction and not akin to Turkey's actions which were carried out by elected representatives and who were not later judged and punished.

[Can we reach agreement on these important points first, before we dissect the others, as I am a little torn with attention giving :wink:]


He mentioned "both motherlands" earlier in the piece!

I am not the only one making a big issue of this. Phileleftheros, Simerini, Politis and many other reputable sources in Greece are also turning this into a big issue.

But in my view, this is not that important, as regrettable as his speech is. But it is just another speech in a long line of speeches and political blunders and miscalculations which have and will cause much damage to Cyprus! The key underlying factor is his incompetent handling of the Cyprus issue, from compromising on Illegal Settlers, to accepting a Rotational Presidency etc

I don't accept your argument. The Turkish Government was elected, but you can hardly blame ALL Turkish people for the invasion. So there are some parallels between the 'elected' Government of Turkey and the non elected Greek Junta. Not all Turks support the continued occupation of Cyprus. This is only natural. It is only natural that ALL Australians do not support Australia's involvement in Afghanistan. You can't really blame all Australians for the War on Iraq as you can't blame All Brits or Americans of the same. Naturally, the Greek people are not to blame for the Coup, and not ALL Turks are to blame for Turkey's policy on Cyprus. Many Turks can't even read or write, and it is debatable whether many Turks did in fact vote at all from deep within Anatolia in the early 70s....

But we will leave it at that!
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Postby Oracle » Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:49 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:I think we should find the positive in whoever is leading our country and encourage and support that to fruition.

Right now, I take comfort in the fact our President re-iterates the solution as being of ONE Sovereignty!


Firstly, I got to say that this is a very silly thread.

But I need to ask you. Christofias made some very damaging comments in New York. He compared Greece to Turkey and even stated that Greece had invaded Cyprus first before Turkey, referring to the Coup on 15 Jul 74. Now, this can be taken to mean many things. Some will no doubt manipulate this statement to support Turkey's justification to invade Cyprus, killing thousands, but not the occupation. So how positive for Cyprus do you think Christofias has been in light of his many concessions, including Shared Governance?

I am sorry, but I'm finding it very difficult to remain positive with Christofias at the helm. That does not mean that the Office of the Republic's President does not enjoy the support of all Cypriots.

You are witnessing the most destructive President in Cypriot history. And what is even more sad, is the fact that DIKO is now complicit to the suicidal politics. Shame on them all....

But all this has revealed another positive that has for so long slipped under the radar. Omirou's EDEK should be commended, and he is our only option as the next President of Cyprus! Bravo to him!

And shame to all the rest!!!!


I haven't seen this comparison between Greece and Turkey - could you post it?


No I don't want to post it!

It is all over the net. Just do a search on Christofias speech at Brookings Institute. The Cypriot and Greek media have also covered it extensively.

Anyway, back to the question. Just how positive are you about Christofias and his handling of the Cyprus Issue? :?


Ella reh Paphitis, with your listening to Chinese whispers! :roll:

First (inaudible) Greece intervened in the internal affairs of Cyprus with President Makarios. They achieved this for one week and this was enough to give the pretext to Turkey to invade Cyprus and until now Turkey by 37 percent of the island.


Fortunately for the people of Greece, these criminal actions of the Junda led to the withdrawal of Junda in Greece and the restoration of democracy in the country in which democracy was born.


Dearest Oracle, please read the entire transcript!

http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Files/ ... cyprus.pdf

pay close attention to page 7 and 8!

And please tell me if you truly believe that Christofias has been positive for Cyprus and why? If you have faith in this man, then please tell me what it is that gives you this faith because I really don't have any!

Do you also regret voting NO at the Annan referendum?


I read it dear, Paphitis. He clearly distinguishes the "people of Greece" from the junta's actions. He also uses the term "intervened" when describing the junta's messing with Cyprus' affairs and immediately goes on to describe how this gave "Turkey pretext to invade Cyprus".

I don't have a problem with his descriptions.


But Oracle, this is from page 7:

So as you know, Cyprus is a very, very beautiful island. A whole island. But unfortunately, let me say it’s been raped and we have to restore the visions of Cyprus. The island of Cyprus is famous as the island of love. It is the island of Aphrodite, as you know. And tomorrow, what we are going to do, it’s a witness of what I say now. An island with 10,000 years creation and civilization. Tomorrow I invite you all to the Smithsonian Institution to look at this exhibition. Of course, the past is glorious. Its contribution tells the worldwide civilization but we have to look forward. And the bitter past of the last 40 years, we have to take into account. We have to get lessons from this, but we have to look forward. We have to solve the problem. No other alternative, of course, than the peaceful negotiations between the two communities. And, of course, the involvement at the end of the day of the three guarantor powers which all played a negative role unfortunately towards the developments in Cyprus, the two so-called main lands, in fact, invaded both.


It is badly worded, but it does state that "both motherlands" invaded!


He doesn't use your quote of "both motherlands" anywhere! You are making incorrect assumptions (as are the many who have capitalized on a badly worded and frequently inaudible speech).

He in fact immediately follows up the comment about the THREE guarantor powers' ineffectiveness, and reiterates the earlier points I made with this:

Fortunately for the people of Greece, these criminal actions of the Junda led to the withdrawal of Junda in Greece and the restoration of democracy in the country in which democracy was born.


The take home message is that he is distinguishing the actions of the junta from those of the "people of Greece". It's a rather important distinction and not akin to Turkey's actions which were carried out by elected representatives and who were not later judged and punished.

[Can we reach agreement on these important points first, before we dissect the others, as I am a little torn with attention giving :wink:]


He mentioned "both motherlands" earlier in the piece!


NO, HE DOES NOT! :)
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Postby insan » Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:50 pm

Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:""First (inaudible) Greece intervened in the internal affairs of Cyprus with President Makarios. They achieved this for one week and this was enough to give the pretext to Turkey to invade Cyprus and until now Turkey by 37 percent of the island. The consequences were tragic, of course."
Although a badly prepared speech I see nothing inaccurate in the above part of the speech.
Greece INTERVENED , FACT ,
Greece gave turkey the excuse to invade , fact !


Don't be such an idiot.

The illegal Coup was an internal Cypriot matter that did not involve the TC community!

Turkey just took the opportunity to accomplish what it had always planned from 1963 and onwards! It was only a matter of time!


don't be so daft the bloody greeks , you obviously were not around at the time so your knowledge of events that took place are second hand .
Listen stupid , the Greek junta WERE the guilty party who encouraged fucking idiots who still wanted Enosis with the so called motherland , the barbarians who now inhabit Greece !!!
The junta and ONLY the fucking junta were responsible in inviting turkey into Cyprus , everyone knows this apart from obvious plonkers like you !!!
Do listen boy and learn, the Greeks are wholly responsible for the catastrophic events of 1974 , ναι φίλε
ει καλαμαραδες μας γαμισανε κε μιν το χεχνας


You have lost the plot. I suppose the Turkish bombings and the near invasion in 1967 were also Greece's fault!

It's all Greece fault Milti, and in your mind, the UK was and is totally innocent in all this, and heaven forbid someone rightfully mention the fact that it was indeed Henry Kissinger who coordinated all the events leading to the invasion, and he my friend was Secretary of State of the Greatest Nation in the world after Cyprus in your pathetic and sick mind!

I repaet , the Greek officers stationed in Cyprus took their orders from the Greek Junta, no one else. INDISPUTABLE FACT .
The Greek Junta orchestrated the coup against Makarios , INDISPUTABLE FACT.
The invasion by Turkey was as a direct consequense of the stupid actions by the ELLAS ELLINON XRISTIANON bullshiitters , so no more bullshit mate , your mates the poushtokalamarades fucked us and then the bloody cowards deserted us ! FACT !


After assurances from Henry Kissinger but you do not mention this FACT!

Yes that's right, the Greek Junta conducted the Coup AFTER they were assured by Henry Kissinger himself that no one will intervene!


Let's say this is true, actually and certainly it is not true; how did those idiot dictators believe/trust Henry who was known by the Greeks as a pro-Turk? :lol:

Above all, hadn't they learnt a lesson or two form the events of 1964 and 1967? :lol:

Pufidiot, you have no legs to stand on and you are not aware of it! A typical idiotic behaviour! :lol:
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Postby Paphitis » Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:02 pm

Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:I think we should find the positive in whoever is leading our country and encourage and support that to fruition.

Right now, I take comfort in the fact our President re-iterates the solution as being of ONE Sovereignty!


Firstly, I got to say that this is a very silly thread.

But I need to ask you. Christofias made some very damaging comments in New York. He compared Greece to Turkey and even stated that Greece had invaded Cyprus first before Turkey, referring to the Coup on 15 Jul 74. Now, this can be taken to mean many things. Some will no doubt manipulate this statement to support Turkey's justification to invade Cyprus, killing thousands, but not the occupation. So how positive for Cyprus do you think Christofias has been in light of his many concessions, including Shared Governance?

I am sorry, but I'm finding it very difficult to remain positive with Christofias at the helm. That does not mean that the Office of the Republic's President does not enjoy the support of all Cypriots.

You are witnessing the most destructive President in Cypriot history. And what is even more sad, is the fact that DIKO is now complicit to the suicidal politics. Shame on them all....

But all this has revealed another positive that has for so long slipped under the radar. Omirou's EDEK should be commended, and he is our only option as the next President of Cyprus! Bravo to him!

And shame to all the rest!!!!


I haven't seen this comparison between Greece and Turkey - could you post it?


No I don't want to post it!

It is all over the net. Just do a search on Christofias speech at Brookings Institute. The Cypriot and Greek media have also covered it extensively.

Anyway, back to the question. Just how positive are you about Christofias and his handling of the Cyprus Issue? :?


Ella reh Paphitis, with your listening to Chinese whispers! :roll:

First (inaudible) Greece intervened in the internal affairs of Cyprus with President Makarios. They achieved this for one week and this was enough to give the pretext to Turkey to invade Cyprus and until now Turkey by 37 percent of the island.


Fortunately for the people of Greece, these criminal actions of the Junda led to the withdrawal of Junda in Greece and the restoration of democracy in the country in which democracy was born.


Dearest Oracle, please read the entire transcript!

http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Files/ ... cyprus.pdf

pay close attention to page 7 and 8!

And please tell me if you truly believe that Christofias has been positive for Cyprus and why? If you have faith in this man, then please tell me what it is that gives you this faith because I really don't have any!

Do you also regret voting NO at the Annan referendum?


I read it dear, Paphitis. He clearly distinguishes the "people of Greece" from the junta's actions. He also uses the term "intervened" when describing the junta's messing with Cyprus' affairs and immediately goes on to describe how this gave "Turkey pretext to invade Cyprus".

I don't have a problem with his descriptions.


But Oracle, this is from page 7:

So as you know, Cyprus is a very, very beautiful island. A whole island. But unfortunately, let me say it’s been raped and we have to restore the visions of Cyprus. The island of Cyprus is famous as the island of love. It is the island of Aphrodite, as you know. And tomorrow, what we are going to do, it’s a witness of what I say now. An island with 10,000 years creation and civilization. Tomorrow I invite you all to the Smithsonian Institution to look at this exhibition. Of course, the past is glorious. Its contribution tells the worldwide civilization but we have to look forward. And the bitter past of the last 40 years, we have to take into account. We have to get lessons from this, but we have to look forward. We have to solve the problem. No other alternative, of course, than the peaceful negotiations between the two communities. And, of course, the involvement at the end of the day of the three guarantor powers which all played a negative role unfortunately towards the developments in Cyprus, the two so-called main lands, in fact, invaded both.


It is badly worded, but it does state that "both motherlands" invaded!


He doesn't use your quote of "both motherlands" anywhere! You are making incorrect assumptions (as are the many who have capitalized on a badly worded and frequently inaudible speech).

He in fact immediately follows up the comment about the THREE guarantor powers' ineffectiveness, and reiterates the earlier points I made with this:

Fortunately for the people of Greece, these criminal actions of the Junda led to the withdrawal of Junda in Greece and the restoration of democracy in the country in which democracy was born.


The take home message is that he is distinguishing the actions of the junta from those of the "people of Greece". It's a rather important distinction and not akin to Turkey's actions which were carried out by elected representatives and who were not later judged and punished.

[Can we reach agreement on these important points first, before we dissect the others, as I am a little torn with attention giving :wink:]


He mentioned "both motherlands" earlier in the piece!


NO, HE DOES NOT! :)


OK! But how does this matter when he mentions both Greece and Turkey and that both invaded!

What do you see in him anyway? :?
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Postby Oracle » Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:34 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:I think we should find the positive in whoever is leading our country and encourage and support that to fruition.

Right now, I take comfort in the fact our President re-iterates the solution as being of ONE Sovereignty!


Firstly, I got to say that this is a very silly thread.

But I need to ask you. Christofias made some very damaging comments in New York. He compared Greece to Turkey and even stated that Greece had invaded Cyprus first before Turkey, referring to the Coup on 15 Jul 74. Now, this can be taken to mean many things. Some will no doubt manipulate this statement to support Turkey's justification to invade Cyprus, killing thousands, but not the occupation. So how positive for Cyprus do you think Christofias has been in light of his many concessions, including Shared Governance?

I am sorry, but I'm finding it very difficult to remain positive with Christofias at the helm. That does not mean that the Office of the Republic's President does not enjoy the support of all Cypriots.

You are witnessing the most destructive President in Cypriot history. And what is even more sad, is the fact that DIKO is now complicit to the suicidal politics. Shame on them all....

But all this has revealed another positive that has for so long slipped under the radar. Omirou's EDEK should be commended, and he is our only option as the next President of Cyprus! Bravo to him!

And shame to all the rest!!!!


I haven't seen this comparison between Greece and Turkey - could you post it?


No I don't want to post it!

It is all over the net. Just do a search on Christofias speech at Brookings Institute. The Cypriot and Greek media have also covered it extensively.

Anyway, back to the question. Just how positive are you about Christofias and his handling of the Cyprus Issue? :?


Ella reh Paphitis, with your listening to Chinese whispers! :roll:

First (inaudible) Greece intervened in the internal affairs of Cyprus with President Makarios. They achieved this for one week and this was enough to give the pretext to Turkey to invade Cyprus and until now Turkey by 37 percent of the island.


Fortunately for the people of Greece, these criminal actions of the Junda led to the withdrawal of Junda in Greece and the restoration of democracy in the country in which democracy was born.


Dearest Oracle, please read the entire transcript!

http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Files/ ... cyprus.pdf

pay close attention to page 7 and 8!

And please tell me if you truly believe that Christofias has been positive for Cyprus and why? If you have faith in this man, then please tell me what it is that gives you this faith because I really don't have any!

Do you also regret voting NO at the Annan referendum?


I read it dear, Paphitis. He clearly distinguishes the "people of Greece" from the junta's actions. He also uses the term "intervened" when describing the junta's messing with Cyprus' affairs and immediately goes on to describe how this gave "Turkey pretext to invade Cyprus".

I don't have a problem with his descriptions.


But Oracle, this is from page 7:

So as you know, Cyprus is a very, very beautiful island. A whole island. But unfortunately, let me say it’s been raped and we have to restore the visions of Cyprus. The island of Cyprus is famous as the island of love. It is the island of Aphrodite, as you know. And tomorrow, what we are going to do, it’s a witness of what I say now. An island with 10,000 years creation and civilization. Tomorrow I invite you all to the Smithsonian Institution to look at this exhibition. Of course, the past is glorious. Its contribution tells the worldwide civilization but we have to look forward. And the bitter past of the last 40 years, we have to take into account. We have to get lessons from this, but we have to look forward. We have to solve the problem. No other alternative, of course, than the peaceful negotiations between the two communities. And, of course, the involvement at the end of the day of the three guarantor powers which all played a negative role unfortunately towards the developments in Cyprus, the two so-called main lands, in fact, invaded both.


It is badly worded, but it does state that "both motherlands" invaded!


He doesn't use your quote of "both motherlands" anywhere! You are making incorrect assumptions (as are the many who have capitalized on a badly worded and frequently inaudible speech).

He in fact immediately follows up the comment about the THREE guarantor powers' ineffectiveness, and reiterates the earlier points I made with this:

Fortunately for the people of Greece, these criminal actions of the Junda led to the withdrawal of Junda in Greece and the restoration of democracy in the country in which democracy was born.


The take home message is that he is distinguishing the actions of the junta from those of the "people of Greece". It's a rather important distinction and not akin to Turkey's actions which were carried out by elected representatives and who were not later judged and punished.

[Can we reach agreement on these important points first, before we dissect the others, as I am a little torn with attention giving :wink:]


He mentioned "both motherlands" earlier in the piece!


NO, HE DOES NOT! :)


OK!


Good. Finally! That shows the degree of misrepresentation he suffers.

But how does this matter when he mentions both Greece and Turkey and that both invaded!


He doesn't. He's talking about the three guarantor powers. There is no knowing what he was trying to say -- UK? Turkey? Greece? You jumped to Greece and Turkey because of YOUR preconceptions and the fact you clearly (shown above) had decided he was previously talking about "motherlands".
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Postby Gasman » Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:39 pm

Oh yes he does! (Panto season starting early)

As for the democracy shite - I read that as him saying Greece did OK out of it all but Cyprus suffered (and it was Greece's fault!)

Lady O - if your interpretation of what your glorious Cyp Pres said is the correct one .....


What the feck was all the FURORE about it for?

Get yerself busy telling those who are complaining bitterly about him that THEY GOT IT ALL WRONG!

Off out to the local Cyp Music Evening now.
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Postby Gasman » Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:47 pm

Just a few (there are hundreds more!)

Christofias returns to a firestorm over ‘invasions’ comment.
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PRESIDENT Demetris Christofias brushed off the media when he returned to the island last night amid a firestorm over comments he made in the US that appeared to equate the 1974 Athens-instigated coup to the Turkish invasion five days later.
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Some called on him to apologise for trying to justify the Turkish invasion using Ankara’s own arguments. The Palace also came under fire because the comment had been ignored by state-run media outlets reporting on his Brookings speech.
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“The two so-called main lands, in fact, invaded, both [of them],” the transcript of his comments reads. [worth an O style emphasis here lol!]

Georgiades urged the president to apologise and withdraw his unfortunate comment .
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He also accused the state-controlled media – the Cyprus News Agency (CNA) and broadcaster CyBC of a news blackout on the comment.
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“In a four-page (CNA) report of the president’s speech there was no mention of this unfortunate and historically inaccurate statement,’ he said.
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Main opposition DISY said Christofias had provoked the feelings of Greeks and Greek Cypriots and insulted the Greeks who died defending Cyprus.
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“What we heard yesterday (Tuesday) leaves us speechless,” DISY spokesman Haris Georgiades said. “We heard the president of the
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“It is wrong to equate Greece with Turkey in the responsibility for the Cypriot tragedy,” spokesman Fotis Fotiou said. “No one disputes that the treacherous coup by the Athens junta on July 15 and the Turkish invasion on July 20, 1974 constitute two acts of the same crime against Cyprus and it is now historically and politically substantiated.”Republic of Cyprus adopt the Turkish arguments of 1974, equating Greece with the invader and occupier of Cyprus.”
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Ruling AKEL denied that the president had equated the July 15, 1974 Athens-backed coup with the subsequent Turkish invasion five days later.


I think that last one should read:

Ruling AKEL AND ORACLE OF CF denied that the president had equated the July 15, 1974 Athens-backed coup with the subsequent Turkish invasion five days later.


:lol: <<< O style smiley at the end of the post. Might start putting one on the end of all of them like she does when she is being racist or insulting!
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Postby Gasman » Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:54 pm

No one disputes that the treacherous coup by the Athens junta on July 15 and the Turkish invasion on July 20, 1974 constitute two acts of the same crime against Cyprus and it is now historically and politically substantiated.


Continuing the panto theme ....

Oh yes they do!
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Postby Gasman » Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:00 pm

MR. VOCKI: And part of the reason for that is that the economic conditions in Northern Cyprus are not that great. Yet if you were to allow for trade to take place between the North and the rest of the world, that would mitigate -- that would reduce the number of Turkish Cypriots leaving. Wouldn’t -- in a way, isn’t your policy, to some extent, contradictory and undermining the future of the relations between Turks and Greeks on the island?


This is what they need to wake up to. Wanting unification on the one hand, but resenting having to shell out for it while at the same time doing everything in their power to impoverish those they profess to want to unify with - thereby increasing the cost to them of doing so.

The rest of the world can see the CONTRADICTION in this. And they see it as very small and mean minded too.

One of the official reports I read stated that the GCs main concern was how the 'TRNC' was typed or written (stating that it made it very hard to be even handed or to report) and who was spoken to first when leaders of both sides present, who sat where and so on.

More important to them than any of the ISSUES relating to the Cyprob. Their MAIN concern.
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