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Postby Oracle » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:05 pm

I think we should find the positive in whoever is leading our country and encourage and support that to fruition.

Right now, I take comfort in the fact our President re-iterates the solution as being of ONE Sovereignty!
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Postby miltiades » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:14 pm

Oracle wrote:I think we should find the positive in whoever is leading our country and encourage and support that to fruition.

Right now, I take comfort in the fact our President re-iterates the solution as being of ONE Sovereignty!

As much as I disagree with the communist ideology embraced by Christophias the fact that our President was democratically elected is enough for me to offer my respects and full support.
May I take this opportunity to express my utter dismay at witnessing daily the Greek media coverage of KKE and that bloody woman !!!
The mother of communism dead and buried but not the KKE IT SEEMS !!!
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Postby Paphitis » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:32 pm

Oracle wrote:I think we should find the positive in whoever is leading our country and encourage and support that to fruition.

Right now, I take comfort in the fact our President re-iterates the solution as being of ONE Sovereignty!


Firstly, I got to say that this is a very silly thread.

But I need to ask you. Christofias made some very damaging comments in New York. He compared Greece to Turkey and even stated that Greece had invaded Cyprus first before Turkey, referring to the Coup on 15 Jul 74. Now, this can be taken to mean many things. Some will no doubt manipulate this statement to support Turkey's justification to invade Cyprus, killing thousands, but not the occupation. So how positive for Cyprus do you think Christofias has been in light of his many concessions, including Shared Governance?

I am sorry, but I'm finding it very difficult to remain positive with Christofias at the helm. That does not mean that the Office of the Republic's President does not enjoy the support of all Cypriots.

You are witnessing the most destructive President in Cypriot history. And what is even more sad, is the fact that DIKO is now complicit to the suicidal politics. Shame on them all....

But all this has revealed another positive that has for so long slipped under the radar. Omirou's EDEK should be commended, and he is our only option as the next President of Cyprus! Bravo to him!

And shame to all the rest!!!!
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Postby Oracle » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:41 pm

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Oracle wrote:I think we should find the positive in whoever is leading our country and encourage and support that to fruition.

Right now, I take comfort in the fact our President re-iterates the solution as being of ONE Sovereignty!


Firstly, I got to say that this is a very silly thread.

But I need to ask you. Christofias made some very damaging comments in New York. He compared Greece to Turkey and even stated that Greece had invaded Cyprus first before Turkey, referring to the Coup on 15 Jul 74. Now, this can be taken to mean many things. Some will no doubt manipulate this statement to support Turkey's justification to invade Cyprus, killing thousands, but not the occupation. So how positive for Cyprus do you think Christofias has been in light of his many concessions, including Shared Governance?

I am sorry, but I'm finding it very difficult to remain positive with Christofias at the helm. That does not mean that the Office of the Republic's President does not enjoy the support of all Cypriots.

You are witnessing the most destructive President in Cypriot history. And what is even more sad, is the fact that DIKO is now complicit to the suicidal politics. Shame on them all....

But all this has revealed another positive that has for so long slipped under the radar. Omirou's EDEK should be commended, and he is our only option as the next President of Cyprus! Bravo to him!

And shame to all the rest!!!!


I haven't seen this comparison between Greece and Turkey - could you post it?
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Postby Paphitis » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:51 pm

Oracle wrote:
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Oracle wrote:I think we should find the positive in whoever is leading our country and encourage and support that to fruition.

Right now, I take comfort in the fact our President re-iterates the solution as being of ONE Sovereignty!


Firstly, I got to say that this is a very silly thread.

But I need to ask you. Christofias made some very damaging comments in New York. He compared Greece to Turkey and even stated that Greece had invaded Cyprus first before Turkey, referring to the Coup on 15 Jul 74. Now, this can be taken to mean many things. Some will no doubt manipulate this statement to support Turkey's justification to invade Cyprus, killing thousands, but not the occupation. So how positive for Cyprus do you think Christofias has been in light of his many concessions, including Shared Governance?

I am sorry, but I'm finding it very difficult to remain positive with Christofias at the helm. That does not mean that the Office of the Republic's President does not enjoy the support of all Cypriots.

You are witnessing the most destructive President in Cypriot history. And what is even more sad, is the fact that DIKO is now complicit to the suicidal politics. Shame on them all....

But all this has revealed another positive that has for so long slipped under the radar. Omirou's EDEK should be commended, and he is our only option as the next President of Cyprus! Bravo to him!

And shame to all the rest!!!!


I haven't seen this comparison between Greece and Turkey - could you post it?


No I don't want to post it!

It is all over the net. Just do a search on Christofias speech at Brookings Institute. The Cypriot and Greek media have also covered it extensively.

Anyway, back to the question. Just how positive are you about Christofias and his handling of the Cyprus Issue? :?
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Postby bubblechris » Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:10 pm

Paphitis, why do you consider what he said 'damaging'. He said the 'Junta' invaded Cyprus, did they not? Did he blame Greece or the Greeks? Did he hell.

FACT the Civil War led by and instigated by the 'Junta' supported by a traitor called Samson started the action that led to the murder of numerous Greek Cypriots, and 'could' have developed into the murder of Turkish Cypriots, who's to say it would not have done, gave Turkey the excuse they needed to launch the second invasion of Cyprus.

FACT

What was so bad about what he said? Why do you and your kind find fault in everything OUR President says and does.

Why are we showing the world such a disunited front when we should be as one in our attempts to solve the problem?
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Postby Oracle » Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:24 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:
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Oracle wrote:I think we should find the positive in whoever is leading our country and encourage and support that to fruition.

Right now, I take comfort in the fact our President re-iterates the solution as being of ONE Sovereignty!


Firstly, I got to say that this is a very silly thread.

But I need to ask you. Christofias made some very damaging comments in New York. He compared Greece to Turkey and even stated that Greece had invaded Cyprus first before Turkey, referring to the Coup on 15 Jul 74. Now, this can be taken to mean many things. Some will no doubt manipulate this statement to support Turkey's justification to invade Cyprus, killing thousands, but not the occupation. So how positive for Cyprus do you think Christofias has been in light of his many concessions, including Shared Governance?

I am sorry, but I'm finding it very difficult to remain positive with Christofias at the helm. That does not mean that the Office of the Republic's President does not enjoy the support of all Cypriots.

You are witnessing the most destructive President in Cypriot history. And what is even more sad, is the fact that DIKO is now complicit to the suicidal politics. Shame on them all....

But all this has revealed another positive that has for so long slipped under the radar. Omirou's EDEK should be commended, and he is our only option as the next President of Cyprus! Bravo to him!

And shame to all the rest!!!!


I haven't seen this comparison between Greece and Turkey - could you post it?


No I don't want to post it!

It is all over the net. Just do a search on Christofias speech at Brookings Institute. The Cypriot and Greek media have also covered it extensively.

Anyway, back to the question. Just how positive are you about Christofias and his handling of the Cyprus Issue? :?


Ella reh Paphitis, with your listening to Chinese whispers! :roll:

First (inaudible) Greece intervened in the internal affairs of Cyprus with President Makarios. They achieved this for one week and this was enough to give the pretext to Turkey to invade Cyprus and until now Turkey by 37 percent of the island.


Fortunately for the people of Greece, these criminal actions of the Junda led to the withdrawal of Junda in Greece and the restoration of democracy in the country in which democracy was born.
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Postby Paphitis » Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:30 pm

bubblechris wrote:Paphitis, why do you consider what he said 'damaging'. He said the 'Junta' invaded Cyprus, did they not? Did he blame Greece or the Greeks? Did he hell.

FACT the Civil War led by and instigated by the 'Junta' supported by a traitor called Samson started the action that led to the murder of numerous Greek Cypriots, and 'could' have developed into the murder of Turkish Cypriots, who's to say it would not have done, gave Turkey the excuse they needed to launch the second invasion of Cyprus.

FACT

What was so bad about what he said? Why do you and your kind find fault in everything OUR President says and does.

Why are we showing the world such a disunited front when we should be as one in our attempts to solve the problem?


Listen mate, I don't have the time to indulge you in this pointless merry go round, but he explicitly mentioned the "2 motherlands" being very destructive to Cyprus and he also mentioned "that it was Greece that invaded Cyprus first".

Now, I can tell you that as an outsider, many unnattached to Cyprus will take this to mean that Turkey's invasion was justified! The statement was indeed unwarranted for the simple fact that you can not call Greece an invader when a substantial portion of the Cypriot population supported the removal of Makarios. EOKA B was Cypriot, not Greek!

Furthermore, you can defend him based on your misguided ideological beliefs, but please remember that there are no Communists in Cyprus. Christofias has the label, but he does not practice, and perhaps he does not even believe in the Communist ideals or maybe he has come to understand that anything other than a Free Market does not provide the incentives for people to work, educate or better themselves!

But this is all irrelevant to the destruction he is causing to the Cyprus Problem. He has literally downscaled the Cyprus Issue to a dispute between 2 communities, compromised on key issues which the Turks will never forgo!

Yes, no one denies the fact that the Coup was wrong, but to place this on par with the Turkish invasion is insanity! And may I also remind you of the fact that those Greek Troops, all 1100 of them, had every right to be in Cyprus according to our stupid Constitution, but naturally, they had no right to interfere with our Government. And this is further evidence that any future agreement MUST NEVER contain Guarantors, so that all foreign troops can be withdrawn from the island, because if they remain, it is only a matter of time before someone, probably Turkey, conducts another False Flag operation in order to create havoc and chaos between the 2 communities so that their component 'state' can secede altogether!

Please tell me! What is there to be positive about?
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Postby Paphitis » Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:43 pm

Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:
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Oracle wrote:I think we should find the positive in whoever is leading our country and encourage and support that to fruition.

Right now, I take comfort in the fact our President re-iterates the solution as being of ONE Sovereignty!


Firstly, I got to say that this is a very silly thread.

But I need to ask you. Christofias made some very damaging comments in New York. He compared Greece to Turkey and even stated that Greece had invaded Cyprus first before Turkey, referring to the Coup on 15 Jul 74. Now, this can be taken to mean many things. Some will no doubt manipulate this statement to support Turkey's justification to invade Cyprus, killing thousands, but not the occupation. So how positive for Cyprus do you think Christofias has been in light of his many concessions, including Shared Governance?

I am sorry, but I'm finding it very difficult to remain positive with Christofias at the helm. That does not mean that the Office of the Republic's President does not enjoy the support of all Cypriots.

You are witnessing the most destructive President in Cypriot history. And what is even more sad, is the fact that DIKO is now complicit to the suicidal politics. Shame on them all....

But all this has revealed another positive that has for so long slipped under the radar. Omirou's EDEK should be commended, and he is our only option as the next President of Cyprus! Bravo to him!

And shame to all the rest!!!!


I haven't seen this comparison between Greece and Turkey - could you post it?


No I don't want to post it!

It is all over the net. Just do a search on Christofias speech at Brookings Institute. The Cypriot and Greek media have also covered it extensively.

Anyway, back to the question. Just how positive are you about Christofias and his handling of the Cyprus Issue? :?


Ella reh Paphitis, with your listening to Chinese whispers! :roll:

First (inaudible) Greece intervened in the internal affairs of Cyprus with President Makarios. They achieved this for one week and this was enough to give the pretext to Turkey to invade Cyprus and until now Turkey by 37 percent of the island.


Fortunately for the people of Greece, these criminal actions of the Junda led to the withdrawal of Junda in Greece and the restoration of democracy in the country in which democracy was born.


Dearest Oracle, please read the entire transcript!

http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Files/ ... cyprus.pdf

pay close attention to page 7 and 8!

And please tell me if you truly believe that Christofias has been positive for Cyprus and why? If you have faith in this man, then please tell me what it is that gives you this faith because I really don't have any!

Do you also regret voting NO at the Annan referendum?
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