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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:29 pm

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Oracle wrote:Cyprus will do its bit ...


Cyprus Guard continues to upgrade with Turkish threat

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"We will continue with the same pace to upgrade the fighting capability and the operational readiness of our National Guard."

As long as Turkish troops remain in Cyprus, the National Guard will continue to upgrade, Cyprus Minister of Defence Costas Papacostas stressed Friday.

``As long as Turkish troops step on the sacred soil of our semi-occupied country, the National Guard will continue constantly to rearm itself so that it would meet the expectations of the Cypriot people and face whichever hostile actions on behalf of the enemy,`` Papacostas said in statements after a military parade to mark the 50th anniversary of the independence of the Republic Of Cyprus.

He added ``we will continue with the same pace to upgrade the fighting capability and the operational readiness of our National Guard.``
``We are in very good level but there is room for improvement,`` he went on to note.

Papacostas also praised the level of cooperation with the Greek National Defence Ministry, noting that the two Ministers have close cooperation and common concerns.

http://famagusta-gazette.com/cyprus-gua ... 866-69.htm


You have not won a single war against the Turks since the establishment of written history. What makes you think that you will win the next?


Precisely because you think we won't. Precisely because we have learnt a lot. Precisely because you sit on your laurels. Precisely because we have never had a war with "Turkey" but have sustained a series of unprovoked attacks, of your choice and timing, plunging us into a state of war, unprepared. None of your attacks have killed us; they only served to make us stronger, each time! Look at us now; we have over 60% of our country completely free of traitor-Turks. Just 40% to liberate. Siga, siga!

When we do eventually become the initiators to attack you, be certain it will be the end of Turkey as you know it. :D


Bu kari ben yokken iyice kafayi yemis :lol:


Ciracığı boş ver de gezdiğin yerlerden bahset. Yamyamlar seni yedi sanmıştım

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Postby Oracle » Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:37 pm

That's very useful isn't it? :roll:

Disgusting language.
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:00 pm

Oracle wrote:That's very useful isn't it? :roll:

Disgusting language.


Its not bad O. I just thought that R might have got eaten by some cannibals. :lol:
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Postby runaway » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:56 am

denizaksulu wrote:
runaway wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Murataga wrote:
Oracle wrote:Cyprus will do its bit ...


Cyprus Guard continues to upgrade with Turkish threat

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"We will continue with the same pace to upgrade the fighting capability and the operational readiness of our National Guard."

As long as Turkish troops remain in Cyprus, the National Guard will continue to upgrade, Cyprus Minister of Defence Costas Papacostas stressed Friday.

``As long as Turkish troops step on the sacred soil of our semi-occupied country, the National Guard will continue constantly to rearm itself so that it would meet the expectations of the Cypriot people and face whichever hostile actions on behalf of the enemy,`` Papacostas said in statements after a military parade to mark the 50th anniversary of the independence of the Republic Of Cyprus.

He added ``we will continue with the same pace to upgrade the fighting capability and the operational readiness of our National Guard.``
``We are in very good level but there is room for improvement,`` he went on to note.

Papacostas also praised the level of cooperation with the Greek National Defence Ministry, noting that the two Ministers have close cooperation and common concerns.

http://famagusta-gazette.com/cyprus-gua ... 866-69.htm


You have not won a single war against the Turks since the establishment of written history. What makes you think that you will win the next?


Precisely because you think we won't. Precisely because we have learnt a lot. Precisely because you sit on your laurels. Precisely because we have never had a war with "Turkey" but have sustained a series of unprovoked attacks, of your choice and timing, plunging us into a state of war, unprepared. None of your attacks have killed us; they only served to make us stronger, each time! Look at us now; we have over 60% of our country completely free of traitor-Turks. Just 40% to liberate. Siga, siga!

When we do eventually become the initiators to attack you, be certain it will be the end of Turkey as you know it. :D


Bu kari ben yokken iyice kafayi yemis :lol:


Ciracığı boş ver de gezdiğin yerlerden bahset. Yamyamlar seni yedi sanmıştım

:lol:


Türkleri seviyorlar. Latin Amerika Forumu'na mı katılsam acaba sıkıldım rumlardan. :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:19 am

runaway wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
runaway wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Murataga wrote:
Oracle wrote:Cyprus will do its bit ...


Cyprus Guard continues to upgrade with Turkish threat

Image

"We will continue with the same pace to upgrade the fighting capability and the operational readiness of our National Guard."

As long as Turkish troops remain in Cyprus, the National Guard will continue to upgrade, Cyprus Minister of Defence Costas Papacostas stressed Friday.

``As long as Turkish troops step on the sacred soil of our semi-occupied country, the National Guard will continue constantly to rearm itself so that it would meet the expectations of the Cypriot people and face whichever hostile actions on behalf of the enemy,`` Papacostas said in statements after a military parade to mark the 50th anniversary of the independence of the Republic Of Cyprus.

He added ``we will continue with the same pace to upgrade the fighting capability and the operational readiness of our National Guard.``
``We are in very good level but there is room for improvement,`` he went on to note.

Papacostas also praised the level of cooperation with the Greek National Defence Ministry, noting that the two Ministers have close cooperation and common concerns.

http://famagusta-gazette.com/cyprus-gua ... 866-69.htm


You have not won a single war against the Turks since the establishment of written history. What makes you think that you will win the next?


Precisely because you think we won't. Precisely because we have learnt a lot. Precisely because you sit on your laurels. Precisely because we have never had a war with "Turkey" but have sustained a series of unprovoked attacks, of your choice and timing, plunging us into a state of war, unprepared. None of your attacks have killed us; they only served to make us stronger, each time! Look at us now; we have over 60% of our country completely free of traitor-Turks. Just 40% to liberate. Siga, siga!

When we do eventually become the initiators to attack you, be certain it will be the end of Turkey as you know it. :D


Bu kari ben yokken iyice kafayi yemis :lol:


Ciracığı boş ver de gezdiğin yerlerden bahset. Yamyamlar seni yedi sanmıştım

:lol:


Türkleri seviyorlar. Latin Amerika Forumu'na mı katılsam acaba sıkıldım rumlardan. :lol:


N. Karaböceği dinliyordum az önce. Eski şarkıları adeta Latin müziği gibi.

Sen keyfine bak da başkalarına boş ver. :lol:
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Postby lola-tulip » Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:22 am

Frontex Operational Office Opens in Piraeus

Frontex held an inauguration ceremony in Piraeus, Greece, on October 1 for the opening of its pilot Frontex Operational Office (FOO). The FOO represents the Agency’s first premises outside its Warsaw HQ and is a pilot programme to test the effectiveness of strengthening Frontex’s regional presence to enhance coverage of the concrete operational and practical needs of Member States in the operational area of the EU’s southern borders.

Director De Brouwer said: “Greece is the Member State confronted with the biggest challenge. This is not a Greek problem, it is an EU issue,” going on to emphasise that solidarity, as a fundamental principle of the EU, was embodied by Frontex.

After briefing guests on the current situational picture at the EU’s external borders, Frontex Executive Director Ilkka Laitinen thanked the Greek authorities for their support in establishing the FOO and praised their commitment to the principles of EU solidarity in the new era of Security, Freedom and Justice embodied by the Lisbon Treaty.


Laitinen also emphasised the need to develop a more rapid response capacity to unforeseeable events. “The pilot FOO will complement HQ’s unity with a regional approach,” he said. “We need a regional touch.”

Set up in August 2010 at the HQ of the Hellenic Coast Guard, the FOO is now fully operational and will be assessed after nine months of operation. If successful, the pilot FOO will open the way for a further three such regional centres at key points at the EU’s external border.


http://www.frontex.europa.eu/newsroom/n ... art76.html

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It is absolutely essential that at least one of those next Offices is situated in Cyprus. All potential EU entry points must be patrolled by joint EU efforts, and plugged.

The illegal trafficking of Turkish soldiers, supplies, weapons and their accompanying Settlers into the EU, via Cyprus, must be stopped.
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:24 pm

Lola,

you are on the right track, but Cyprus needs to be self sufficient. There is little point relying on the EU or Frontex.

Apart from developing a small yet potent fleet of Fast Attack Craft armed with Exocet Anti Ship Missiles, Cyprus should start a Surveillance Operation utilising Mariner UAVs (FLIR Equipped) and backed up with Attack Helicopters, Fast Attack Craft mentioned earlier and also move to launch 3 Surveillance Satellites into orbit ensuring that one passes over every 3-4 hours.

Apart from that, all you need is a couple of Dash 8 or Super King Air aircraft equipped with Surface Surveillance Radar, and FLIR.

Now, this is all surprisingly cheap to set and it will not chew up much manpower. I believe this is vital for Border Protection, Law Enforcement, and will give the us the capability to patrol our EEZ and vital Oil and Gas Reserves.

Anything the EU/Frontex can offer should only be considered an added bonus.

Now that we have rich Oil and Gas reserves, I don't see how we can afford to not do this.
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Postby lola-tulip » Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:43 pm

Paphitis wrote:Lola,

you are on the right track, but Cyprus needs to be self sufficient. There is little point relying on the EU or Frontex.

Apart from developing a small yet potent fleet of Fast Attack Craft armed with Exocet Anti Ship Missiles, Cyprus should start a Surveillance Operation utilising Mariner UAVs (FLIR Equipped) and backed up with Attack Helicopters, Fast Attack Craft mentioned earlier and also move to launch 3 Surveillance Satellites into orbit ensuring that one passes over every 3-4 hours.

Apart from that, all you need is a couple of Dash 8 or Super King Air aircraft equipped with Surface Surveillance Radar, and FLIR.

Now, this is all surprisingly cheap to set and it will not chew up much manpower. I believe this is vital for Border Protection, Law Enforcement, and will give the us the capability to patrol our EEZ and vital Oil and Gas Reserves.

Anything the EU/Frontex can offer should only be considered an added bonus.

Now that we have rich Oil and Gas reserves, I don't see how we can afford to not do this.


Paphiti, even Greece cannot patrol borders of EU by herself. Turkey will think harder before attacking EU patrols than it would Greece or Cyprus in isolation.

Of course you are correct to discuss civil defence. But Frontex can provide another method by cutting off directly the routes from Turkey to Cyprus which are used illegally by Turkey for colonising the island and arming her soldiers occupying Cyprus.
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:04 pm

lola-tulip wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Lola,

you are on the right track, but Cyprus needs to be self sufficient. There is little point relying on the EU or Frontex.

Apart from developing a small yet potent fleet of Fast Attack Craft armed with Exocet Anti Ship Missiles, Cyprus should start a Surveillance Operation utilising Mariner UAVs (FLIR Equipped) and backed up with Attack Helicopters, Fast Attack Craft mentioned earlier and also move to launch 3 Surveillance Satellites into orbit ensuring that one passes over every 3-4 hours.

Apart from that, all you need is a couple of Dash 8 or Super King Air aircraft equipped with Surface Surveillance Radar, and FLIR.

Now, this is all surprisingly cheap to set and it will not chew up much manpower. I believe this is vital for Border Protection, Law Enforcement, and will give the us the capability to patrol our EEZ and vital Oil and Gas Reserves.

Anything the EU/Frontex can offer should only be considered an added bonus.

Now that we have rich Oil and Gas reserves, I don't see how we can afford to not do this.


Paphiti, even Greece cannot patrol borders of EU by herself. Turkey will think harder before attacking EU patrols than it would Greece or Cyprus in isolation.

Of course you are correct to discuss civil defence. But Frontex can provide another method by cutting off directly the routes from Turkey to Cyprus which are used illegally by Turkey for colonising the island and arming her soldiers occupying Cyprus.


Believe me when I tell you that Cyprus CAN patrol her borders. All you need is the right equipment!

If Australia can do it, and it is the size of Europe, then Cyprus is able to patrol her EEZ.

I have some expertise in the field! :wink:

You don't need anymore bases. A Fast Attack Craft can dock at Limassol Harbor and have their home base at Zigi and that other place that Kurupetos mentions.

We only need a couple of bases, and the right toys!
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:20 pm

lola-tulip wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Lola,

you are on the right track, but Cyprus needs to be self sufficient. There is little point relying on the EU or Frontex.

Apart from developing a small yet potent fleet of Fast Attack Craft armed with Exocet Anti Ship Missiles, Cyprus should start a Surveillance Operation utilising Mariner UAVs (FLIR Equipped) and backed up with Attack Helicopters, Fast Attack Craft mentioned earlier and also move to launch 3 Surveillance Satellites into orbit ensuring that one passes over every 3-4 hours.

Apart from that, all you need is a couple of Dash 8 or Super King Air aircraft equipped with Surface Surveillance Radar, and FLIR.

Now, this is all surprisingly cheap to set and it will not chew up much manpower. I believe this is vital for Border Protection, Law Enforcement, and will give the us the capability to patrol our EEZ and vital Oil and Gas Reserves.

Anything the EU/Frontex can offer should only be considered an added bonus.

Now that we have rich Oil and Gas reserves, I don't see how we can afford to not do this.


Paphiti, even Greece cannot patrol borders of EU by herself. Turkey will think harder before attacking EU patrols than it would Greece or Cyprus in isolation.

Of course you are correct to discuss civil defence. But Frontex can provide another method by cutting off directly the routes from Turkey to Cyprus which are used illegally by Turkey for colonising the island and arming her soldiers occupying Cyprus.


I missed your last point. Frontex is a civil maritime surveillance organisation. The EU will not be able to cut off Turkish Supply Lines from Turkey. They wouldn't even attempt such a thing!

Also, rather than rely on Frontex, Cyprus is able to do it herself with a couple of Dash 8 aircraft and about 6 Mariner or Heron UAVs and a couple of Satellites.

But even these Surveillance Aircraft are useless without a Navy. Hence the need for Fast Attack Craft and Patrol Boats.

Hint: Do some research. If you PM me, I can give you a few links which I don't want to divulge on this forum.
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