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[B25]

Whilst people like Milo, gasman, jack m and many others here and on other forums gloat at the demise of the Karayiannas lot, a thought should also be spared for the many home owners whose fate has now been sealed by conor and his followers.

If this company is destroyed, these people will have little chance to get title deeds, resell or even get part completed properties finished. they can thank conor and his merry men.

As much as I don't condone what the karayiannas lot did, there are more victims to this as a result of conor's 'success'.

Perhaps some of these owners may wish to sue for loss of investment???

Or perhaps meet conor and shake his hand for getting them screwed over.

It seems, that conor has not only succeeded in destroying karayiannas, but he has also managed to kill any chance of previous karayiannas customers getting a return on their investment as well as quite possibly causing irrevecable damage to the Cyprus property market that affects many many innocent livelihoods.

This is not to say I condone crooked developers/lawyers or any one else.

Rumour has it, that the person now living in the subject house has not bought it as such and so no second sale actually took place, allegedly. Unless someone can show us a contract of sale, then we just have conors word on it.

Well done conor, how about I write you a cheque for €400,000 and you can FO outa here.

[BigDutch]

... gloat at the demise of the Karayiannas lot ...

It is particularly frustrating that the attackers of conor seem unable to see the wood for the trees. Most people that are following the ongoing events centred around Conor, specifically the cases relating to (a) his house (b) his assault (c) his website, are more interested in general justice rather than demise of one company and/or family at the hand(s) of someone else.

Development companies that don't share the same working philosophy as those that are reported to have bent or broken the law should be behind Conor supporting him in my opinion. These are companies that will benefit from the cowboys being removed from the market by ensuring only quality remains.

I cannot beleive that i read due to conor standing up for himself that everyone else will lose out, i optimistically hope that by conor standing up for himself that system will change so everyone whether British/foreign or other will BENEFIT from laws being enforced rather than friendships or family links being upheld. Those that have spent their life fortune on a Cyprus property but don't have a title deed want to know that the authorities of Cyprus will follow the logic of (a) signed contract and paid money and now (b) own property - is that too much to ask ?

[Sotos]

Conor didn't achieve anything. All he had to do was to follow the usual legal procedures and wait until justice was served. All that monkey business and the badmouthing of Cyprus has not gained him anything. He thought that by badmouthing the whole of Cyprus and trying to create problems to Cyprus that the government would offer to him some preferential treatment and make his case a priority. This didn't happen he had to wait like everybody else.

[Jack M]

You're right in as much as Conor hasn't achieved anything as regards his losses, legal fees, or compensation for his 4 years of stress, there are still the civil cases to come for that along with the private criminal prosecution for the unlawful selling of his house twice which is nearing an end. Karayiannas face a further 7 years in prison, along with the illegal occupant of his house.

As for the house not having been sold to the illegal occupant, well I'm not about to prejudice the case by telling what I know and have seen but the truth will soon be shown to all.

B25, the fate of the other buyers has not been sealed by Conor but by Karayiannas, the convicted criminals. These are the consequences of their actions not Conors. Do you advocate them being let off their crimes just so others may not suffer? If they had conducted their business properly in the first place they would not be in prison now. Your blinkered view almost defies belief.

[Milo]

Don,t know what you are all whinging about, none of us on here convicted, gave evidence, witnessed or judged anyone on Conor's case. All that was done by Cypriots!! they judged him after hearing ALL the evidence and they sent the father and son and resident buffoon down. If you are unhappy with the verdicts maybe you should talk to all of those people, somehow everyone of these good people seem to think entirely the opposite to one or two on here. But they do possess more insight to the case

Worrying about those who bought Karayiannas properties that MAY lose them shows up the whole title deeds scandal for what it is Had they recieved those Deeds on completion then when at a much future date a developer commits a crime or goes bust they end up having to pay for it shows just how insidious the whole mess is. They caused ALL the problems, ONLY they will get any blame. If anything else happens to anymore of their buyers the ECHR will see that no-one else loses their paid for homes just because of a couple of convicted criminals, who have no idea how to conduct business.

Nothing will change, they have been found guilty, end of this part of the saga.

Conor achieved what he richly deserved a criminal verdict. This is not the end though.

[coredump]

There are many good companies in Cyprus but you want all of them banned indiscriminately.

If they were not just "good companies" but also really smart ones they would stand by O'Dwyer protecting the reputation of their whole industry and prosecuting those crooks who ruin it, and he would've never had to get to the stage of "badmouthing the whole Cyprus".

If you have a problem with a specific company then go after the company.

Isn't it what he tried at first? Apparently he did, but when it became obvious that Cypriot courts and the gov do nothing about it he resorted to "badmouthing the whole Cyprus". Can you really blame him for this?
BTW, the shameoncyprus.com domain name has been registered only in 2008. (click the link to see whois info) When did his saga start?

Those companies that have done something wrong should pay for it.

Yes it is not fair to them but that's how life works. If, say, one of your neighbours will start shitting on his doorstep every day you are free to choose to ignore him doing that, and it is not fair to you that you will have to do something about it sooner or later. But, well... you get the idea...

But when you are racist and you attack the whole country then don't expect any sympathy or any Cypriot rushing to solve your problem.

Yeah... Do not badmouth my neighbourhood because of just one (or a few) neighbour whose doorstep smells for the reason I do not want to know, because if you do I will accuse you of being racist.

[Schnauzer]

You're right in as much as Conor hasn't achieved anything as regards his losses, legal fees, or compensation for his 4 years of stress, there are still the civil cases to come for that along with the private criminal prosecution for the unlawful selling of his house twice which is nearing an end. Karayiannas face a further 7 years in prison, along with the illegal occupant of his house.

As for the house not having been sold to the illegal occupant, well I'm not about to prejudice the case by telling what I know and have seen but the truth will soon be shown to all.

B25, the fate of the other buyers has not been sealed by Conor but by Karayiannas, the convicted criminals. These are the consequences of their actions not Conors. Do you advocate them being let off their crimes just so others may not suffer? If they had conducted their business properly in the first place they would not be in prison now. Your blinkered view almost defies belief.

I do wonder Jack M, if there are any other subject matters or incidents of general concern to the wider world that are of interest to you ?, it would appear that ALL your posts thus far seem to be hovering around the support of Conor (and his small brigade of supporters) which begs the question "Are you a plant?".

When the tragic story of Conor's predicament first hit the screens of this forum, there were similar sudden appearances of new members whose only concern was to bolster his campaign, I strongly suspect that the crafty foul mouthed 'would be entrepreneur' is up to his old tricks again.

Please inform us all if I am wrong BUT, if I am right "Buzz Off".

[RichardB]

You're right in as much as Conor hasn't achieved anything as regards his losses, legal fees, or compensation for his 4 years of stress, there are still the civil cases to come for that along with the private criminal prosecution for the unlawful selling of his house twice which is nearing an end. Karayiannas face a further 7 years in prison, along with the illegal occupant of his house.

As for the house not having been sold to the illegal occupant, well I'm not about to prejudice the case by telling what I know and have seen but the truth will soon be shown to all.

B25, the fate of the other buyers has not been sealed by Conor but by Karayiannas, the convicted criminals. These are the consequences of their actions not Conors. Do you advocate them being let off their crimes just so others may not suffer? If they had conducted their business properly in the first place they would not be in prison now. Your blinkered view almost defies belief.

I do wonder Jack M, if there are any other subject matters or incidents of general concern to the wider world that are of interest to you ?, it would appear that ALL your posts thus far seem to be hovering around the support of Conor (and his small brigade of supporters) which begs the question "Are you a plant?".

When the tragic story of Conor's predicament first hit the screens of this forum, there were similar sudden appearances of new members whose only concern was to bolster his campaign, I strongly suspect that the crafty foul mouthed 'would be entrepreneur' is up to his old tricks again.

Please inform us all if I am wrong BUT, if I am right "Buzz Off".

I too have been thinking this over the last couple of days.

When this first hit the scenes so to speak (it must have been at least 18 months ago) we had a few new members who for a short while seemed to turn out in support of this Conor.

I am sure, like a number of other members on forum would have originally sympathised with the mans predicament , but ...... there really are ways to get justice in Cyprus and I'm afraid that in my opinion this person has gone about it the wrong way.

If he had done things 'professionaly' so to speak, and through the proper channels ( which we all know takes a long time in Cyprus) without all the Drama Queen activities he seems so fond of then I am sure it would be sorted without the need to camp out and protest (thus keeping poor Jimmy Light out late at nights)

So in short I have no sympathy for him

Regards

Richard and Eleni

( 2 properties bought - no problems - Tile deeds in top drawer of dressing table)

[Schnauzer]

You're right in as much as Conor hasn't achieved anything as regards his losses, legal fees, or compensation for his 4 years of stress, there are still the civil cases to come for that along with the private criminal prosecution for the unlawful selling of his house twice which is nearing an end. Karayiannas face a further 7 years in prison, along with the illegal occupant of his house.

As for the house not having been sold to the illegal occupant, well I'm not about to prejudice the case by telling what I know and have seen but the truth will soon be shown to all.

B25, the fate of the other buyers has not been sealed by Conor but by Karayiannas, the convicted criminals. These are the consequences of their actions not Conors. Do you advocate them being let off their crimes just so others may not suffer? If they had conducted their business properly in the first place they would not be in prison now. Your blinkered view almost defies belief.

I do wonder Jack M, if there are any other subject matters or incidents of general concern to the wider world that are of interest to you ?, it would appear that ALL your posts thus far seem to be hovering around the support of Conor (and his small brigade of supporters) which begs the question "Are you a plant?".

When the tragic story of Conor's predicament first hit the screens of this forum, there were similar sudden appearances of new members whose only concern was to bolster his campaign, I strongly suspect that the crafty foul mouthed 'would be entrepreneur' is up to his old tricks again.

Please inform us all if I am wrong BUT, if I am right "Buzz Off".

I too have been thinking this over the last couple of days.

When this first hit the scenes so to speak (it must have been at least 18 months ago) we had a few new members who for a short while seemed to turn out in support of this Conor.

I am sure, like a number of other members on forum would have originally sympathised with the mans predicament , but ...... there really are ways to get justice in Cyprus and I'm afraid that in my opinion this person has gone about it the wrong way.

If he had done things 'professionaly' so to speak, and through the proper channels ( which we all know takes a long time in Cyprus) without all the Drama Queen activities he seems so fond of then I am sure it would be sorted without the need to camp out and protest (thus keeping poor Jimmy Light out late at nights)

So in short I have no sympathy for him

Regards

Richard and Eleni

( 2 properties bought - no problems - Tile deeds in top drawer of dressing table)

And best wishes to you too RichardB (and your good lady of course), as Conor was informed at the time you allude to, his campaign was more to do with his own misfortunes than that of others who may have been experiencing some difficulties in matters relating to property purchase, he managed to attract an awful amount of 'backers' at that time and, as you indicate, there was a sudden upsurge of new members ALL of whom had but one objective, to discredit the Cypriot businesspeople.

It was even suggested (by a much maligned member whOse name shall be kept secret lest SHE objects) that Conor may well be in cahoots with developers in the 'Stolen Sector' to bolster their sales there.

Disregarding ALL the negative comments Conor received during his 'High Horse' days, one comment (offered advisedly) to him sticks in the back of my mind...............'That he should apologise profusely to the man he offered such awful and disrespectful insult to , lest his words should herald his own nemesis'.

Even Jimmy Light offered him the same advice (though not quite so explicitly, OR, depending on one's perception, possibly more so) when he said "C'or blimey Conna, wot ya sez ta that geeza, woz bang aht of awdar mayt 'n ya betta frunt it aht coz it ain't kooshty moosh".

Well, how much fairer can you be?, Conor was unmoved, he snuggled up in his sleeping bag leaving poor Jimmy to stand guard over his tent in case any stray dogs might take a fancy to cocking their leg up against his tent pole.

I will soon be in touch with Jimmy, I know where he is and, if there is any further news, I will forward it to all members immediately.

[Get Real!]

Politicizing a commercial dispute is a No-No in Cyprus!

You pass that red line and you’ll get fucked here!